Re-united Ireland?

[Countdown]

What are the chances of NU and Scotland waving bye-bye to the UK?

Surely they're entitled to choose, just as much as we were...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/snp-say...

[stupidbutkeen]

No chance of N.Ireland voting out of the UK.
Ireland don't want us and there is still a majority would vote to stay with the uk.

Scotland I can see the uproar growing for another vote but I tend to be realistic and can't honestly see Scotland voting any different than the last time.

[Leins]

No hope of United Ireland. Most people in RoI realise we cannot afford to take it on and/or want to anyway

Whether NI could go it alone and try get back into the EU is a different matter, but I'd doubt it

[Moominho]

Agree there is no likelihoof of a united Ireland. I do believe if Scotland had another referendum, they would leave the UK though.

[Paddymcc]

Hopefully not no matter what romanticism there is about it.

[Crush]

Moominho said:

Agree there is no likelihoof of a united Ireland. I do believe if Scotland had another referendum, they would leave the UK though.

Did the Scottish vote to remain through fear of a new referendum in Scotland? Or because the EU benefits them?

[JagLover]

Well I wouldn't wish NI to leave due to our shared history.

That said I don't regard the situation as being particularly healthy for democracy. In every other country in the union the same parties compete, with a nationwide agenda. In NI the party seems to depend on your religion so how to you have a shared Demos with the rest of the UK?

[grumbledoak]

Even if they vote "Aaaaart!", where would they go? As far as I can tell the EU don't want Scotland and the RoI don't want NI.

[wc98]

Crush said:

Did the Scottish vote to remain through fear of a new referendum in Scotland? Or because the EU benefits them?

apparently because we didn't want to hand power to westminster from brussels . i kid you not, that was what i was told when i went to the bookies to pick up my winnings today. only person to place a bet on leave at the shop apparently

[BlackLabel]

Scotland will vote the same way again - the Scottish electorate are a pragmatic bunch and whilst they may not like the EU referendum result they won't shoot themselves in the foot at vote to leave the UK.

As for the Irish - I don't know what the feeling is on the ground over there but NI isn't exactly a region which is doing well financially and surely they would just be a burden on the ROI should they unify?

[amgmcqueen]

BlackLabel said:

Scotland will vote the same way again - the Scottish electorate are a pragmatic bunch and whilst they may not like the EU referendum result they won't shoot ourselves in the foot at vote to leave the UK.

As for the Irish - I don't know what the feeling is on the ground over there but NI isn't exactly a region which is doing well financially and surely they would just be a burden on the ROI should they unify?

Which questions why they keep voting for the SNP. Is it just that Labour are so bad at the moment they havn't got much choice?

[Mr_B]

Would be interesting what the SNP would campaign on, seeing how their trump oil price card was exposed just months after the vote. I think they will see the time isn't right for anything immediate.

[Sam All]

Cunning Plan - move all Scottish people to Northern Ireland, and the Northern Ireland population to Scotland.

Job done. No border/currency etc issues

[///ajd]

I guess we'll just have to live with all the consequences.

I did wonder today whether that was one reason Don4l was so pro-Brexit - he mentioned his grandfather was in the IRA - perhaps that was one of his motives for Brexit.

Sinn Fein didn't hesitate to capitalise on the opportunity, I guess it gives a way for NI to stay in the EU which is what they seem to want.

[Eric Mc]

Not in anybody's lifetime who is alive today I would suggest. My belief is that a Northern Ireland independent of both the UK or the Irish Republic is a more likely scenario - but not for a long time either.

If and when Scotland eventually breaks away, which could be within a decade, that will be the seminal moment for Northern Ireland.

[voyds9]

amgmcqueen said:

Which questions why they keep voting for the SNP. Is it just that Labour are so bad at the moment they havn't got much choice?

Because there is something noble about being the underdog and fighting the oppressors.

Even if the 'oppressors' are the answer and not the problem

[Leins]

///ajd said:

Sinn Fein didn't hesitate to capitalise on the opportunity, I guess it gives a way for NI to stay in the EU which is what they seem to want.

I wouldn't read too much into it, in the RoI their manifesto is decidedly anti-EU

[Pwig]

The question if Scotland wants to remain in the EU is a different question to do you want Scotland to remain in the EU if Eng, Wales and NI are out.

Plus there won't be a referendum until we know what is happening in terms of negotiations when we leave

[dazwalsh]

If NI are out with UK then what hapoens to the border with republic? Common travel between Ireland and UK pre dates any EU but the UK are not likely to allow the land border to remain open are they?

It would be a back door into the UK,yet i dont think border patrols will do anything for economy or keeping the peace.

[davepoth]

dazwalsh said:

If NI are out with UK then what hapoens to the border with republic? Common travel between Ireland and UK pre dates any EU but the UK are not likely to allow the land border to remain open are they?

It would be a back door into the UK,yet i dont think border patrols will do anything for economy or keeping the peace.

you can stop that back door quite easily with passport controls at the ports and airports in Northern Ireland. The border would be every bit as secure as Dover/Calais but much more inaccessible if you happen to be an illegal migrant. Since it's a Common Travel Area one of the keystones is that we have confidence in the Irish Republic border anyway.