What are the people of Europe saying? Anecdotaly.
Discussion
Dutch friend living in Switzerland when I asked him if he thought the Netherlands would be next (verbatim):
"Hope not. Our trading and transport driven economy is even more dependent on 1 EU, open borders. Also we as europeans only stand a chance to face the world issues is we stick together. Falling apart wont make it easier, but even worse. Not a big fan of politics, but even less of populism. History has shown what this can lead to (not much good). Had to smile at some of the comments made yesterday, like a Canadian who said 'GB once invaded and rules 90% of the world and is now afraid of immigrants' ;-)"
"Hope not. Our trading and transport driven economy is even more dependent on 1 EU, open borders. Also we as europeans only stand a chance to face the world issues is we stick together. Falling apart wont make it easier, but even worse. Not a big fan of politics, but even less of populism. History has shown what this can lead to (not much good). Had to smile at some of the comments made yesterday, like a Canadian who said 'GB once invaded and rules 90% of the world and is now afraid of immigrants' ;-)"
Watchman said:
s3fella said:
Watchman,when you say how your Eastern European friends voted, what were the criteria for being eligible to vote? UK citizens or just registered here for a certain time? Or married to UK citizens? Genuine question.
What you say is interesting as my mate's wife is from CZ and has a face like a wet weekend over it all....but has been here 20 years, has a UK passport, 2 kids and just one elderley relative back in CZ? Not sure how she can be worried about anything tbh.
I have no idea. I never even thought to ask. They all own homes here, work and pay tax, so although they aren't naturalised like my wife, appear to be eligible o vote regardless. What you say is interesting as my mate's wife is from CZ and has a face like a wet weekend over it all....but has been here 20 years, has a UK passport, 2 kids and just one elderley relative back in CZ? Not sure how she can be worried about anything tbh.
Good question - I'll ask them when we see them again.
Anyway, wifey has spoken with more of them today - the girls at the hair & nails salon - and they're all mortified, and worried for their futures here.
Gogoplata said:
dxg said:
Gogoplata said:
hairyben said:
Given the music/arts background of my faceberk feed, lots of wailing and confusion about how this happeded when their bubble seemed so full of their conceited pro-eu posts, so obviously 52% of british are just stupid racists who didn't understand what they were doing. proof that leftie-lites are the same the world over; continueing to fill their bubble with whatever supports their PoV and angryly rejecting anything that dares them have to think otherwise
We must have exactly the same friends! Italian colleagues: Some have been taking the piss, not letting me into the office because I now need a Visa to get in and so on, some are confused why we'd want to leave and have concerns about how we work together in the medium to long term. Others are a little jealous that we even got the opportunity to have referendum, they have mentioned having to deal with corrupt local and national officials then corrupt EU officials, meanwhile the economy in Italy struggles on with no improvement in sight.
Spanish colleagues: General concern as to what this means for them living/working in the UK and generally doing business with us, staff in BCN think it's great we're out, in a similar way to Scotland they want their own independence.
Switzerland: Non-stop piss extraction, I've been emailed various memes and screenshots of London burning and so on, they don't care either way, because they're Swiss!
Spanish colleagues: General concern as to what this means for them living/working in the UK and generally doing business with us, staff in BCN think it's great we're out, in a similar way to Scotland they want their own independence.
Switzerland: Non-stop piss extraction, I've been emailed various memes and screenshots of London burning and so on, they don't care either way, because they're Swiss!
BOR said:
My german friends and work colleagues were shocked that the uk would self-harm to this extent.
I explained that it was mostly thick people who voted for exit, and that they always have had a persecution complex regarding mainland europe.
We see no immediate change in the short to medium term, but long term investment in the uk now has an additional hurdle to overcome.
The uk looks like a stroppy teenager doing a massive flounce because she can't have those new high heels.
How F@cking arrogant of you, You presume 17 million are thick, I know plenty of remainers who are as thick as mince, it's the intellectual elite that always pretend they know better than everyone else, Your just sounding like a Cock.I explained that it was mostly thick people who voted for exit, and that they always have had a persecution complex regarding mainland europe.
We see no immediate change in the short to medium term, but long term investment in the uk now has an additional hurdle to overcome.
The uk looks like a stroppy teenager doing a massive flounce because she can't have those new high heels.
Speed 3 said:
Dutch friend living in Switzerland when I asked him if he thought the Netherlands would be next (verbatim):
"Hope not. Our trading and transport driven economy is even more dependent on 1 EU, open borders. Also we as europeans only stand a chance to face the world issues is we stick together. Falling apart wont make it easier, but even worse. Not a big fan of politics, but even less of populism. History has shown what this can lead to (not much good). Had to smile at some of the comments made yesterday, like a Canadian who said 'GB once invaded and rules 90% of the world and is now afraid of immigrants' ;-)"
"Hope not. Our trading and transport driven economy is even more dependent on 1 EU, open borders. Also we as europeans only stand a chance to face the world issues is we stick together. Falling apart wont make it easier, but even worse. Not a big fan of politics, but even less of populism. History has shown what this can lead to (not much good). Had to smile at some of the comments made yesterday, like a Canadian who said 'GB once invaded and rules 90% of the world and is now afraid of immigrants' ;-)"
Why does he live in Switzerland?
REALIST123 said:
Speed 3 said:
Dutch friend living in Switzerland when I asked him if he thought the Netherlands would be next (verbatim):
"Hope not. Our trading and transport driven economy is even more dependent on 1 EU, open borders. Also we as europeans only stand a chance to face the world issues is we stick together. Falling apart wont make it easier, but even worse. Not a big fan of politics, but even less of populism. History has shown what this can lead to (not much good). Had to smile at some of the comments made yesterday, like a Canadian who said 'GB once invaded and rules 90% of the world and is now afraid of immigrants' ;-)"
"Hope not. Our trading and transport driven economy is even more dependent on 1 EU, open borders. Also we as europeans only stand a chance to face the world issues is we stick together. Falling apart wont make it easier, but even worse. Not a big fan of politics, but even less of populism. History has shown what this can lead to (not much good). Had to smile at some of the comments made yesterday, like a Canadian who said 'GB once invaded and rules 90% of the world and is now afraid of immigrants' ;-)"
Why does he live in Switzerland?
Speed 3 said:
REALIST123 said:
Speed 3 said:
Dutch friend living in Switzerland when I asked him if he thought the Netherlands would be next (verbatim):
"Hope not. Our trading and transport driven economy is even more dependent on 1 EU, open borders. Also we as europeans only stand a chance to face the world issues is we stick together. Falling apart wont make it easier, but even worse. Not a big fan of politics, but even less of populism. History has shown what this can lead to (not much good). Had to smile at some of the comments made yesterday, like a Canadian who said 'GB once invaded and rules 90% of the world and is now afraid of immigrants' ;-)"
"Hope not. Our trading and transport driven economy is even more dependent on 1 EU, open borders. Also we as europeans only stand a chance to face the world issues is we stick together. Falling apart wont make it easier, but even worse. Not a big fan of politics, but even less of populism. History has shown what this can lead to (not much good). Had to smile at some of the comments made yesterday, like a Canadian who said 'GB once invaded and rules 90% of the world and is now afraid of immigrants' ;-)"
Why does he live in Switzerland?
Can't be get a job within the EU? And what does he think about the various referendums where the Dutch have voted against EU proposals, though they've generally been ignored, and the huge level of disappointment with the EU amongst his fellow countrymen?
Crush said:
One French lady posted "Oh no, what have you done England?I cannot believe it, all of my English friends seem so sad, who voted to Leave?"
One of her Spanish friends posted "you will only have a response if you know elderly uneducated racists from the UK"
My post suggested that her friend was one of the reasons that many people voted leave ie the failure to engage with the fears of Leave voters, but instead making them out to be inferior.
!)
I was in North Nofolk at the weekend, there were millions of Leave posters and zero immigrants to be seen. What are these fears that you speak of?One of her Spanish friends posted "you will only have a response if you know elderly uneducated racists from the UK"
My post suggested that her friend was one of the reasons that many people voted leave ie the failure to engage with the fears of Leave voters, but instead making them out to be inferior.
!)
Nardiola said:
Italian colleagues: Some have been taking the piss, not letting me into the office because I now need a Visa to get in and so on, some are confused why we'd want to leave and have concerns about how we work together in the medium to long term. Others are a little jealous that we even got the opportunity to have referendum, they have mentioned having to deal with corrupt local and national officials then corrupt EU officials, meanwhile the economy in Italy struggles on with no improvement in sight.
Spanish colleagues: General concern as to what this means for them living/working in the UK and generally doing business with us, staff in BCN think it's great we're out, in a similar way to Scotland they want their own independence.
Switzerland: Non-stop piss extraction, I've been emailed various memes and screenshots of London burning and so on, they don't care either way, because they're Swiss!
Spanish colleagues: General concern as to what this means for them living/working in the UK and generally doing business with us, staff in BCN think it's great we're out, in a similar way to Scotland they want their own independence.
Switzerland: Non-stop piss extraction, I've been emailed various memes and screenshots of London burning and so on, they don't care either way, because they're Swiss!
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