What are the people of Europe saying? Anecdotaly.

[DSLiverpool]

Pan Pan Pan said:

What I find shocking, is that the EU has said it wants the UK gone, as soon a possible, and other EU bureaucrat's, have started the` ` We will make the UK pay this' noises, but it seems that not one of them has asked the question : WHY did over half the voters in a country of over 65 million people WANT to leave the EU?

Got it in one, at the start of the referendum Brussels should have been asking why GB was so upset as to need one. The fact they didnt shows its a gravy train for the so inclined. (simplistic but broadly accurate)

[so called]

The text I received yesterday from a US colleague;-
"What the hell are you guys doing over in the UK"?

My reply was simple........."casting off and heading for Neverland".

Message from a German colleague;-
"That is somehow really surprising that they won.
Let`s see how this works out.
Interesting situation".

[Steve H]

BOR said:

My german friends and work colleagues were shocked that the uk would self-harm to this extent.

I explained that it was mostly thick people who voted for exit, and that they always have had a persecution complex regarding mainland europe.

We see no immediate change in the short to medium term, but long term investment in the uk now has an additional hurdle to overcome.

The uk looks like a stroppy teenager doing a massive flounce because she can't have those new high heels.

BOR, you should probably keep reading this until it sinks in -

Pan Pan Pan said:

What I find shocking, is that the EU has said it wants the UK gone, as soon a possible, and other EU bureaucrat's, have started the` ` We will make the UK pay this' noises, but it seems that not one of them has asked the question : WHY did over half the voters in a country of over 65 million people WANT to leave the EU?
If the EU elite is so dumb, disconnected (and just plain arrogant) that they cannot even try to understand why the people of the country who form its second largest net contributor of funds in the EU, and its second largest internal market wanted to leave, then THEY really need to start examining THEMSELVES, and what THEY have done to bring this situation about.
If they don't, they will soon start seeing other EU member states going the same way as the UK, and that at least does seem to have had the effect of them starting to sh*t themselves.
For them it is not a case of we must understand what are we doing wrong, but rather a case of: we must take steps so as not let others escape from our corrupt organization.

Edited by Pan Pan Pan on Saturday 25th June 08:13

[andymadmak]

BOR said:

My german friends and work colleagues were shocked that the uk would self-harm to this extent.

I explained that it was mostly thick people who voted for exit, and that they always have had a persecution complex regarding mainland europe.

Yes, I can believe you would say something like that, given the usual level of your contributions on here.

BOR said:

the bad losers on the remain side look like stroppy teenagers doing a massive flounce because they can't have those new high heels.

Edited for accuracy

[Hosenbugler]

BOR said:

My german friends and work colleagues were shocked that the uk would self-harm to this extent.
I explained that it was mostly thick people who voted for exit, and that they always have had a persecution complex regarding mainland europe.
We see no immediate change in the short to medium term, but long term investment in the uk now has an additional hurdle to overcome.
The uk looks like a stroppy teenager doing a massive flounce because she can't have those new high heels.

Idiot

[Driller]

Here in France it's total sour grapes from the MSM and most people.

Saying things like "yeah well, they deserve all they get for leaving, they'll regret it, you'll see".

Nobody seems to understand that it's nothing personal, nothing to do with the people themselves but rather to get out of a bad political/financial system which is nocive and which you have no say over.

[technodup]

Pan Pan Pan said:

What I find shocking, is that the EU has said it wants the UK gone, as soon a possible, and other EU bureaucrat's, have started the` ` We will make the UK pay this' noises, but it seems that not one of them has asked the question : WHY did over half the voters in a country of over 65 million people WANT to leave the EU?

There was a guy on the radio yesterday comparing it to FIFA. Leaders either completely oblivious or not interested in the members views or wishes, in denial, concentrated only on themselves and the project.

Like FIFA, change will take a while.

[Einion Yrth]

Hosenbugler said:

Idiot

Really no point in rising to the bait Mr. Trouserpress. Others will form their own opinions of his nonsense.

[anonymous-user]

Comments from European politicians seem to reflect a desire for their own referendums. There is also the sentiment from some leaders that the EU must now reform. The sad thing is that if the EU had listened and had reformed we'd still be there! It shows a disconnect, or a lack of intelligence or sheer spitefulness or arrogance amongst the EU government.
We have started the breakup or the reform of the EU. The EU government now has to pick which one of those two options.

[Thom]

Some colleagues at work who have been vocal enough to express their opinion on the matter, but who do not seem to have clue about GB in general seem to be pleased to "have finally got rid of those English knobs!" - "enfin débarrassés de ces cons d'anglais!".

I have found that most of the French who think of it that way usually have developed an authoritarian/one-way/binary vision similar to that of these non-elected eurocrats who have brought the EU into a very unfortunate 4th Reich-style organisation where democracy is blatantly peed on. With the state of emergency undergoing in France it's no surprise that some kind of black or white, paranoïd approach to general political issues can easily make its bed in most people's mind.

A few like me are wishing the very best to Britain, as we really hope Brexit will ultimately show other EU countries where the EU has gone wrong, in best case reform the EU and restrain its role as an economic organisation comparable to the Commonwealth, in worst case lead to a full EU meltdown which I'm sure France has zero interest in considering it's being kept artificially alive with German fundings. One of the key problem with the EU is that Germany is at its very heart, and the legendary logical German way of thinking has more than often a tendancy to go in opposition with the sometimes irrational but legitimate aspirations of other people in Europe who already work very hard, but who do not want to live like fking robots.

History has shown that Britain has always found the resources to sort itself from the various messes it went through and if there may be concern that the "never surrender" British spirit may have been diluted somehow over the last decades as the spirit of the EU may have interfered within the British society, I still really do hope - and know - Britain will make it out well, although it may take one or two decades.

Sorry for the not so factual post. Vive la différence.

[Finlandia]

Sweden is in shock, or at least the so called leaders here are. The spin of it is that Sweden has lost a strong ally, and will now need to be stronger than ever. Oh, and no Swexit will be allowed.

[Einion Yrth]

Finlandia said:

The spin of it is that Sweden has lost a strong ally,

Have we declared war without me noticing?

[Gogoplata]

hairyben said:

Given the music/arts background of my faceberk feed, lots of wailing and confusion about how this happeded when their bubble seemed so full of their conceited pro-eu posts, so obviously 52% of british are just stupid racists who didn't understand what they were doing. proof that leftie-lites are the same the world over; continueing to fill their bubble with whatever supports their PoV and angryly rejecting anything that dares them have to think otherwise

We must have exactly the same friends!

[Finlandia]

Einion Yrth said:

Finlandia said:

The spin of it is that Sweden has lost a strong ally,

Have we declared war without me noticing?

Apparently UK and Sweden have shared the same views in 90% of the EU referendums/votes/whatever. Personally I find that hard to believe, at least under the gov now in place in Sweden.

[Crafty_]

Spoke to a US colleague yesterday who said "We kinda support it here for your guys taking control back", they see it as nationalistic pride more than anything.

Through a little conversation they don't quite "get" the whole EU (good or bad) thing anyway and you have to remember most of them will be voting for Clinton or Trump in a few months (god help them..).

[Hammer67]

My German friend, who married an English girl and lives here, has got his lederhosen in a right twist. He's been all over Facebook calling Leavers sad masochists and taking it all very personally.

I tried, pre vote, to have a sensible debate with him but failed to the point where, when we next meet, it could get a bit tasty.

This result has been on the cards for years. The immigration issue has been on the agenda for the last few General Elections but whenever anyone attempted to address it, were shouted down as racists. The rise of UKIP and the fact that Euroscepticism is a natural standpoint for many this should come as no real surprise.

The EU view the UK as Captain Awkward, always have. They wanted us out, as much as we wanted out.

Win/Win. Hopefully.

[saaby93]

Hammer67 said:

The EU view the UK as Captain Awkward, always have. They wanted us out, as much as we wanted out.

Depends what you call the EU view. The view of many EU countries was that they needed the UK to stand up against you know which county at the centre seeking unification of Europe
All of the business ( except where France has a sway) is conducted in English
How is that going to work out now

'Your are no longer allowed to speak in English'

Ireland's in a tricky place - how is it going to get its goods across the UK without incurring two tarrifs?

[anonymous-user]

I spoke with a Romanian friend living in Edinburgh, he was panicking mainly about being kicked out and us becoming friendlier with Putin!, and I reassured him.

I spoke with a Russian friend working in Canary Wharf, she said the Russians were very supportive of the decision, and she was verbally abused on the way home by an English tramp gloating about immigrants being kicked out.

Finally I did a 20minute panel with 30 snr managers in a Canadian Healthcare company and a tele conf with 6 Americans, The Canadians were concerned, mainly about the impact on the NHS and had lots of questions and the Yanks thought it would be a great time to visit the UK for a holiday and the result would benefit Trump.

[Boring_Chris]

Hammer67 said:

My German friend, who married an English girl and lives here, has got his lederhosen in a right twist. He's been all over Facebook calling Leavers sad masochists and taking it all very personally.

I tried, pre vote, to have a sensible debate with him but failed to the point where, when we next meet, it could get a bit tasty.

This result has been on the cards for years. The immigration issue has been on the agenda for the last few General Elections but whenever anyone attempted to address it, were shouted down as racists. The rise of UKIP and the fact that Euroscepticism is a natural standpoint for many this should come as no real surprise.

The EU view the UK as Captain Awkward, always have. They wanted us out, as much as we wanted out.

Win/Win. Hopefully.

Shouted down?



Are you fking kidding me? UKIP has long masked it's racist undercurrent, and gone to great pains to do so. But now there is far less impetus to do so. Bolstered by Trumps popularity over the pond it's only going to become more blatant.

I thought the lower class voting in the Tories was this countries nadir. Turns out the lower class, who benefit from EU membership the most, voting us out - giving rise to the above Anti-fking-Christ - is even lower.

What the fk is happening?!

[TeamD]

Boring_Chris said:

I thought the lower class voting in the Tories was this countries nadir. Turns out the lower class, who benefit from EU membership the most, voting us out - giving rise to the above Anti-fking-Christ - is even lower.

What the fk is happening?!

fking grow up! Enough of your class bks FFS