What are the people of Europe saying? Anecdotaly.
Discussion
Gogoplata said:
hairyben said:
Given the music/arts background of my faceberk feed, lots of wailing and confusion about how this happeded when their bubble seemed so full of their conceited pro-eu posts, so obviously 52% of british are just stupid racists who didn't understand what they were doing. proof that leftie-lites are the same the world over; continueing to fill their bubble with whatever supports their PoV and angryly rejecting anything that dares them have to think otherwise
We must have exactly the same friends! Slightly more serious - intimidated/harassed by an EU (non-UK) colleague yesterday - who then sent an inappropriate e-mail to colleagues about me.
I have now forwarded to HR (as well as the rest of the company) and awaiting sh8t on Monday. Background to this, he was strutting around with an 'In' badge on Thursday and seemed quite agitated. I didn't mention the Referendum. Had a late start on Friday and found out the Leave result on the train to work - again being extra careful to avoid the subject. Jeez, I even ordered a huge breakfast to munch at my desk to avoid any sort of political based discussion. He then walked over to my desk to start a conversation (which a neutral witness described as aggressive).
Happy days - still glad I voted Leave!
I have now forwarded to HR (as well as the rest of the company) and awaiting sh8t on Monday. Background to this, he was strutting around with an 'In' badge on Thursday and seemed quite agitated. I didn't mention the Referendum. Had a late start on Friday and found out the Leave result on the train to work - again being extra careful to avoid the subject. Jeez, I even ordered a huge breakfast to munch at my desk to avoid any sort of political based discussion. He then walked over to my desk to start a conversation (which a neutral witness described as aggressive).
Happy days - still glad I voted Leave!
Edited by fido on Saturday 25th June 12:27
Was in Germany for the last 2 weeks...
Walked into a meeting yesterday morning with 12 highly educated and senior Germans working in the manufacturing and engineering industry.
Essentially they were quite sad and shocked and are really worried about the future but the most senior of them commented - if they were British and were in our shoes, they probably would have voted out too and understands why the British did so'
Walked into a meeting yesterday morning with 12 highly educated and senior Germans working in the manufacturing and engineering industry.
Essentially they were quite sad and shocked and are really worried about the future but the most senior of them commented - if they were British and were in our shoes, they probably would have voted out too and understands why the British did so'
I think this started out one of the better / more intresting threads on the Brexit vote.
Hopefully it stays the right side of factual, regardless of if its for or against the actual vote to leave.
My European friends have mixed opinions, from basic surprise that we voted leave. To feelings that it may allow them to have their own say on their countries future.
I was interested to read one of the earlier posts that stated that Italians were not allowed to call for any form of referendum vote.
Not sure how rules like that are sensible given Italy at one point regardless of our voting may have decided they wanted to leave. Even if it was in 30years.
Overall interesting seeing an Eu and non Eu perspective.
Hopefully it stays the right side of factual, regardless of if its for or against the actual vote to leave.
Crafty_ said:
Spoke to a US colleague yesterday who said "We kinda support it here for your guys taking control back", they see it as nationalistic pride more than anything.
Through a little conversation they don't quite "get" the whole EU (good or bad) thing anyway and you have to remember most of them will be voting for Clinton or Trump in a few months (god help them..).
I have several US friends and although they are slightly detached form UK and EU politics their simplified views on what happened are similar to above.Through a little conversation they don't quite "get" the whole EU (good or bad) thing anyway and you have to remember most of them will be voting for Clinton or Trump in a few months (god help them..).
My European friends have mixed opinions, from basic surprise that we voted leave. To feelings that it may allow them to have their own say on their countries future.
I was interested to read one of the earlier posts that stated that Italians were not allowed to call for any form of referendum vote.
Not sure how rules like that are sensible given Italy at one point regardless of our voting may have decided they wanted to leave. Even if it was in 30years.
Overall interesting seeing an Eu and non Eu perspective.
My Polish wife and I (English) voted to remain but we've been on the fence for ages, switching from one to the other numerous times. If anything, she was more "remain" than anything, fearing for the future of our Polish, Slovakian and Bulgarian friends. My wife is a naturalised Brit in a very senior position in a global company, so has nothing to fear personally but she worries that this may make it more difficult for those Eastern Europeans living here on their existing (non-British) passports, and all of her/their friends and families visiting from Europe.
Those same Eastern European friends living here voted 50/50 to leave/remain. I was surprised by those wanting us to leave but they have made lives for themselves here now, they DON'T fear for their own position in the UK, but they do worry about further immigration on their jobs.
As the dust settled last night, one of my non-British friends said "Well, the result was my second favourite so we'll make the most if it".
And to my friends I explained how they REMAIN my friends - no FrExit here. [sorry]
Those same Eastern European friends living here voted 50/50 to leave/remain. I was surprised by those wanting us to leave but they have made lives for themselves here now, they DON'T fear for their own position in the UK, but they do worry about further immigration on their jobs.
As the dust settled last night, one of my non-British friends said "Well, the result was my second favourite so we'll make the most if it".
And to my friends I explained how they REMAIN my friends - no FrExit here. [sorry]
Watchman,when you say how your Eastern European friends voted, what were the criteria for being eligible to vote? UK citizens or just registered here for a certain time? Or married to UK citizens? Genuine question.
What you say is interesting as my mate's wife is from CZ and has a face like a wet weekend over it all....but has been here 20 years, has a UK passport, 2 kids and just one elderley relative back in CZ? Not sure how she can be worried about anything tbh.
What you say is interesting as my mate's wife is from CZ and has a face like a wet weekend over it all....but has been here 20 years, has a UK passport, 2 kids and just one elderley relative back in CZ? Not sure how she can be worried about anything tbh.
REALIST123 said:
Randy Winkman said:
That's what I'd do in their position. I'd say "S*d off and don't make a fuss about trade agreements and stuff on the way out."
Even if it drops your own people into the s
t too and, in truth, you are to blame for the situation in any case? I guess you might. dxg said:
Gogoplata said:
hairyben said:
Given the music/arts background of my faceberk feed, lots of wailing and confusion about how this happeded when their bubble seemed so full of their conceited pro-eu posts, so obviously 52% of british are just stupid racists who didn't understand what they were doing. proof that leftie-lites are the same the world over; continueing to fill their bubble with whatever supports their PoV and angryly rejecting anything that dares them have to think otherwise
We must have exactly the same friends! My neighbours are from Australia and South Africa. Both them and their families said that Leave was the right decision.
The Aussies couldn't believe we joined in 75.
The Saffers are of the opinion that those voting Leave are likely to be risk takers and entrepeneurial whereas those voting Remain they see as "don't rock the boat / don't like change" types
The Aussies couldn't believe we joined in 75.
The Saffers are of the opinion that those voting Leave are likely to be risk takers and entrepeneurial whereas those voting Remain they see as "don't rock the boat / don't like change" types
Boring_Chris said:
52% of the people hate brown faces.
Hang on. Doesn't the EU have a big border with a lot of white people on the inside and a lot of brown people on the outside?If you think a Hungarian deserves something from us by right which an Ethiopian does not, then have a look at what you are arguing for.
An immigration policy based on merit by definition ignores race.
The EU's policy actively discriminates against African and Asian people.
SpeckledJim said:
"we should assign greater weight to the opinions of the 18-24 year olds!" Screams my outraged facebook feed.
It was very easy and could have actually swung the referendum to a remain vote. Its called voting, bothering your arse to go and vote in the biggest and most changing vote they'll probably have. Seems only 43% thought this was the way ahead. Anyone have the raw numbers on how many eligible voters the 18-25 range is and what this would have meant in extra remain votes based on 75% of those that did actually vote going for remain with a turnout more inline with the older vote ?
Mr_B said:
SpeckledJim said:
"we should assign greater weight to the opinions of the 18-24 year olds!" Screams my outraged facebook feed.
It was very easy and could have actually swung the referendum to a remain vote. Its called voting, bothering your arse to go and vote in the biggest and most changing vote they'll probably have. Seems only 43% thought this was the way ahead. Anyone have the raw numbers on how many eligible voters the 18-25 range is and what this would have meant in extra remain votes based on 75% of those that did actually vote going for remain with a turnout more inline with the older vote ?
Thankfully, they were busy on their phones saying how terrible it would be if Remain lost...
Edited by SpeckledJim on Saturday 25th June 13:14
SpeckledJim said:
Boring_Chris said:
52% of the people hate brown faces.
Hang on. Doesn't the EU have a big border with a lot of white people on the inside and a lot of brown people on the outside?If you think a Hungarian deserves something from us by right which an Ethiopian does not, then have a look at what you are arguing for.
An immigration policy based on merit by definition ignores race.
The EU's policy actively discriminates against African and Asian people.
SpeckledJim said:
"we should assign greater weight to the opinions of the 18-24 year olds!" Screams my outraged facebook feed.
After all, look at every well-run organisation, company and country - who do you find at the top, using their superior judgement to make good decisions?
Correct! The 18-24.
Yeah, but voting is heavily skewered towards old people because you have to leave the house and vote with pencil & paper at the polling station, instead of just clicking "Like" on Facebook. It's not fair that young people have to register to vote in order to vote. I mean old people aren't even on Facebook! After all, look at every well-run organisation, company and country - who do you find at the top, using their superior judgement to make good decisions?
Correct! The 18-24.
^Paraphrased from what somebody actually posted on Facebook.
My wife is Australian (with a British passport) and she is gutted that we have left one thing she loves about this country is that it's in the EU and is so different to her native country which is very isolated and coupled with their immigration policy in her words 'a bit racist' she also works in the NHS and is worried about how not having people from the EU to do the jobs tey do in the NHS, some of her colleagues are worried as well.
I'll ad her family with British Passports have said to me how gutted they are as it will effect them if they want to work and travel around the EU
I know quite a few europeans that live here and they are all gutted we have left, I guess it's the uncertainty of how this will pan out.
I'll ad her family with British Passports have said to me how gutted they are as it will effect them if they want to work and travel around the EU
I know quite a few europeans that live here and they are all gutted we have left, I guess it's the uncertainty of how this will pan out.
Boring_Chris said:
SpeckledJim said:
Boring_Chris said:
52% of the people hate brown faces.
Hang on. Doesn't the EU have a big border with a lot of white people on the inside and a lot of brown people on the outside?If you think a Hungarian deserves something from us by right which an Ethiopian does not, then have a look at what you are arguing for.
An immigration policy based on merit by definition ignores race.
The EU's policy actively discriminates against African and Asian people.
You would grant rights to a Hungarian that you would not grant to an Ethopian, based simply on where they were born?
Who is prejudiced again?
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