Positive Discrimination

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Silvernoble883

Original Poster:

249 posts

97 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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My son left the British Army and applied for a job at North Wales fire service where he was told they were only actively seeking gay and Lesbian ethnic minorities who can speak Welsh for the roles at present so not to bother applying until the criteria changes as you only get 2 chances to apply.

He isn't a gay or a ethnic minority and can't speak fluent Welsh, but he is a intelligent very fit strong lad who has no problem with heights being an ex para.

The world has gone mad.

Mr_B

10,480 posts

244 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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How do they tell if an applicant says he/she is gay, but isn't really ?

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Mr_B said:
How do they tell if an applicant says he/she is gay, but isn't really ?
Presumably they fail the practical test?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Silvernoble883 said:
The world has gone mad.
No, just PC mad.

Discrimination is discrimination, no positive about it.

Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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It's PC PC gone mad.

Can't he just say he's gay? I'm sure they won't make him suck off the Chief Constable to make sure. wink

Silvernoble883

Original Poster:

249 posts

97 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Beati Dogu said:
It's PC PC gone mad.

Can't he just say he's gay? I'm sure they won't make him suck off the Chief Constable to make sure. wink
Lie on his application form and then hide his wife and 2 kids, I suppose he could have said bi.

bitchstewie

51,395 posts

211 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Silvernoble883 said:
they were only actively seeking gay and Lesbian ethnic minorities who can speak Welsh
That's got to be a pretty narrow field.

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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bhstewie said:
That's got to be a pretty narrow field.
They are looking for the only gay (or lesbian) in the village?

Silvernoble883

Original Poster:

249 posts

97 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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bhstewie said:
Silvernoble883 said:
they were only actively seeking gay and Lesbian ethnic minorities who can speak Welsh
That's got to be a pretty narrow field.
Tick 3 boxes and you're quids in, 2 and still a good chance, 1 box and the reserve list, no ticks no chance.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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bhstewie said:
Silvernoble883 said:
they were only actively seeking gay and Lesbian ethnic minorities who can speak Welsh
That's got to be a pretty narrow field.
Oh I dunno.



sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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hornetrider said:
Oh I dunno.
Are you stealing my jokes?
beer

bitchstewie

51,395 posts

211 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Silvernoble883 said:
Tick 3 boxes and you're quids in, 2 and still a good chance, 1 box and the reserve list, no ticks no chance.
My workplace sent me on a course about how to recruit people and one of the sections dealt with diversity.

I never did get an entirely straight (excuse the pun) answer on how you can entirely legally choose that you want to employ a black lesbian in the name of diversity, but couldn't tell a black lesbian you didn't want to employ them because you wanted a straight white man.

Both seem discriminatory, you'd think you'd be encouraged simply take on the best person for the job regardless.

XCP

16,939 posts

229 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Been like that in the police for ages. Declined to send an application form to a friend of mine because she wasn't an ethnic minority or disabled. That was in 2004.

Budflicker

3,799 posts

185 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Just tick mixed race and gay, no way in the world at the interview they can get rid of you on the basis of ( I'm sorry but your white and straight so go away) as you may identify as mixed race in your mind and also could be bi?

If they do state anything discriminatory then sue them for discrimination.

Sheetmaself

5,679 posts

199 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Always makes me laugh that nearly always the top of an application states tbat they are an equal oppurtunities company and due to this please tell is which box you fit in.

Surely an equal oppurtunities firm wouldnt care?

Silvernoble883

Original Poster:

249 posts

97 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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bhstewie said:
you'd think you'd be encouraged simply take on the best person for the job regardless.
Exactly, it's all very wrong.

BJG1

5,966 posts

213 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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hornetrider said:
Oh I dunno.

Even they fail the ethnic minority test.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Budflicker said:
Just tick mixed race and gay, no way in the world at the interview they can get rid of you on the basis of ( I'm sorry but your white and straight so go away) as you may identify as mixed race in your mind and also could be bi?

If they do state anything discriminatory then sue them for discrimination.
Gallent ofyn iddo os gall ef siarad Cymraeg er

Silvernoble883

Original Poster:

249 posts

97 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Einion Yrth said:
Gallent ofyn iddo os gall ef siarad Cymraeg er
Fair point but it was the other 2 points that are just wrong.


mike74

3,687 posts

133 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Apparently the bbc have a specially funded presenter training scheme aimed only at ethnic minorities, which seems terribly racist as it suggests these people need extra help.

To put the top hat on it the biggest single recipient of this fund, to the tune of £50k, is none other than multi millionaire ex footballer Dion Dublin.

(And it was obviously a waste of £50k, I've seen him on Homes under the Hammer, he's hopeless... wooden, stilted and completely devoid of personality).