Is Boris sh*tting himself?
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don4l said:
You are having a laugh, aren't you?
Or are you engaging in more bedwetting?
If you don't like being labelled a bedwetter, then stop suggesting that Europe's most successful economy is fcked.
I'm wondering if you lot are just trolling me.
I reckon you're the one doing the trolling. Still waiting for that link to "the Spanish newspaper" and your view on the fact that we have 5 times as much per capita to lose if we get into tit for tat trade arguments with the EU.Or are you engaging in more bedwetting?
If you don't like being labelled a bedwetter, then stop suggesting that Europe's most successful economy is fcked.
I'm wondering if you lot are just trolling me.
Derek Smith said:
Don't know about Johnson s
tting himself but as things are panning out, with lots of unintended consequences raising their heads, I am.
We are living through a period that will be written about extensively in the future. The exit reminds me of the histories of the civil wars, not to mention WWI, when at any time those with authority could have stepped in to stop the steady progress to disaster but they chose not to. The question that always crosses my mind is why they didn't act. Students in the future will ask why the voters decided to give so much power to Sturgeon. They must have known, they will say, that she would use it for her own ends.
And why, they might wonder, did the government think that the EU would do anything other than what is best for them. They have the authority.
In history lessons in this country the students will be bemused. In European universities, they'll have a laugh.
The EU will ensure that our exit costs us. They will punish us because it will want to discourage others from doing the same. The import/export argument is inconsequential. What would really cost the EU is for the UK to get a good deal. So we won't. We will be told what to do.
There is a suggestion that there will be no talks before we invoke Article 50. That is wrong. The heads of the European states are talking now, and they are deciding what scraps to let us have.
It's starting to remind me more of Prague in 1968 than anything. tting himself but as things are panning out, with lots of unintended consequences raising their heads, I am.We are living through a period that will be written about extensively in the future. The exit reminds me of the histories of the civil wars, not to mention WWI, when at any time those with authority could have stepped in to stop the steady progress to disaster but they chose not to. The question that always crosses my mind is why they didn't act. Students in the future will ask why the voters decided to give so much power to Sturgeon. They must have known, they will say, that she would use it for her own ends.
And why, they might wonder, did the government think that the EU would do anything other than what is best for them. They have the authority.
In history lessons in this country the students will be bemused. In European universities, they'll have a laugh.
The EU will ensure that our exit costs us. They will punish us because it will want to discourage others from doing the same. The import/export argument is inconsequential. What would really cost the EU is for the UK to get a good deal. So we won't. We will be told what to do.
There is a suggestion that there will be no talks before we invoke Article 50. That is wrong. The heads of the European states are talking now, and they are deciding what scraps to let us have.
///ajd said:
How depressing.
I recall posting such concerns aling with others but they were dismissed by brexiters "who knew better" and would brand you a bedwetter or worse.
It is alarming how quickly we have totally fcked our economy - for years.
What we are seeing is a reaction to uncertainty, and was fully expected. Nothing to do with the fundamentals, so how exactly have we fcked our economy? Nothing is going to change for at least 2 years and then the worst case is 10% tariffs charged by the EU, balanced by our freedom to remove tariffs on the rest of the world.I recall posting such concerns aling with others but they were dismissed by brexiters "who knew better" and would brand you a bedwetter or worse.
It is alarming how quickly we have totally fcked our economy - for years.
NONE of the pessimistic pundits (IMF etc) enrolled by the Remain lobby predicted we would be any worse off in the long term. Typically it was something like 'if we stay in we'll be 41% better off by 2030, if we leave only 36%'. And these ignored the potential benefits of free trade with the world outside the EU which already accounts for 55% of our trade.
As for the pound being down, Germany has had an undervalued currency since they entered the Euro and it isn't doing them any harm.
PorkInsider said:
It is depressing.
There's been plenty of comment along the lines of 'it's a blip and the pound, stocks, whatever, will recover over the coming days and weeks'.
Some have been quick to point out today's rises. They're welcome, of course, but pretty much irrelevant. It's the uncertainty and resulting cancellation/postponement of investment that's going to be most telling. And that won't be reversed in a few days/weeks/months.
Tell us why you are depressed.There's been plenty of comment along the lines of 'it's a blip and the pound, stocks, whatever, will recover over the coming days and weeks'.
Some have been quick to point out today's rises. They're welcome, of course, but pretty much irrelevant. It's the uncertainty and resulting cancellation/postponement of investment that's going to be most telling. And that won't be reversed in a few days/weeks/months.
Give us your analysis of the current stock market situation.
Last Friday at about 7:45, I advised people to buy shares. Anyone who took my advice could have made(an average) 6% in 8.5 hours.
Today's recovery was nothing compared to Friday's.
If you want to take your advice from the propoganda driven BBC, then go ahead.
Anyway, give us your expert analysis.
don4l said:
PorkInsider said:
It is depressing.
There's been plenty of comment along the lines of 'it's a blip and the pound, stocks, whatever, will recover over the coming days and weeks'.
Some have been quick to point out today's rises. They're welcome, of course, but pretty much irrelevant. It's the uncertainty and resulting cancellation/postponement of investment that's going to be most telling. And that won't be reversed in a few days/weeks/months.
Tell us why you are depressed.There's been plenty of comment along the lines of 'it's a blip and the pound, stocks, whatever, will recover over the coming days and weeks'.
Some have been quick to point out today's rises. They're welcome, of course, but pretty much irrelevant. It's the uncertainty and resulting cancellation/postponement of investment that's going to be most telling. And that won't be reversed in a few days/weeks/months.
Give us your analysis of the current stock market situation.
Last Friday at about 7:45, I advised people to buy shares. Anyone who took my advice could have made(an average) 6% in 8.5 hours.
Today's recovery was nothing compared to Friday's.
If you want to take your advice from the propoganda driven BBC, then go ahead.
Anyway, give us your expert analysis.
don4l said:
PorkInsider said:
It is depressing.
There's been plenty of comment along the lines of 'it's a blip and the pound, stocks, whatever, will recover over the coming days and weeks'.
Some have been quick to point out today's rises. They're welcome, of course, but pretty much irrelevant. It's the uncertainty and resulting cancellation/postponement of investment that's going to be most telling. And that won't be reversed in a few days/weeks/months.
Tell us why you are depressed.There's been plenty of comment along the lines of 'it's a blip and the pound, stocks, whatever, will recover over the coming days and weeks'.
Some have been quick to point out today's rises. They're welcome, of course, but pretty much irrelevant. It's the uncertainty and resulting cancellation/postponement of investment that's going to be most telling. And that won't be reversed in a few days/weeks/months.
Give us your analysis of the current stock market situation.
Last Friday at about 7:45, I advised people to buy shares. Anyone who took my advice could have made(an average) 6% in 8.5 hours.
Today's recovery was nothing compared to Friday's.
If you want to take your advice from the propoganda driven BBC, then go ahead.
Anyway, give us your expert analysis.
I didn't say I'm personally depressed.
I'm also not an expert. Where have I claimed that? And I certainly don't take much notice if the BBC.
I did say that current stock prices aren't the main issue, too.
don4l said:
If you don't like being labelled a bedwetter, then stop suggesting that Europe's most successful economy is fcked.
By that measure, surely then the UK should have moved upwards in the list of largest economies instead of falling behind the cheese eating surrender monkeys ?don4l said:
PorkInsider said:
This little snippet had passed me by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1MVZYtX5Zg
I've found little to laugh about since last Thursday but this gave me a chuckle.
I've had loads to laugh at since last Thursday.I've found little to laugh about since last Thursday but this gave me a chuckle.
Farage's speech in Strasbourg this morning was an absolute cracker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKJzQv8x1hg
They aren't laughing now.
Nigel... I am.
Channel 4(along with the BBC) is promoting the idea that racist hate crime is on the increase since Thursday. Tonight they had on the latest "victim", of an incident in Manchester.
Unfortunately, he admitted that he started the confrontation. The three youths in question were swearing on a bus and he told them to moderate their language. When asked if he often was a victim of racial abuse, he replied, nonchalantly, "No, not really".
I was left with the impression that he has never experienced racism. It just doesn't exist in his world, so when these youths hurled it at him, he just thought that they were a bit thick. Jon Snow seemed a bit disappointed that this confident young man wasn't very upset.
don4l said:
If you don't like being labelled a bedwetter, then stop suggesting that Europe's most successful economy is fcked.
So... if it's the most successful economy what's wrong with staying in there? It's a hell of a gamble to make with the inconsistent leadership and completely absent planning that Leave had to offer.PorkInsider said:
Anyway, getting this thread back on track, have we heard from BJ today?
I haven't seen him on the TV news that I've caught, so far.
He's not been on Twitter since soon after the polls closed on Thursday either. I know he's done a bit of firefighting over the weekend but compared to his campaigning pre-referendum he's staying in the house with the curtains drawn. Maybe he's trying to hide that bus...I haven't seen him on the TV news that I've caught, so far.
wst said:
e's not been on Twitter since soon after the polls closed on Thursday either. I know he's done a bit of firefighting over the weekend but compared to his campaigning pre-referendum he's staying in the house with the curtains drawn. Maybe he's trying to hide that bus...
Working hard to stop the May bus more like don4l said:
Tell us why you are depressed.
Give us your analysis of the current stock market situation.
Last Friday at about 7:45, I advised people to buy shares. Anyone who took my advice could have made(an average) 6% in 8.5 hours.
Today's recovery was nothing compared to Friday's.
If you want to take your advice from the propoganda driven BBC, then go ahead.
Anyway, give us your expert analysis.
Don't you have an Irish passport and therefore this doesn't actually affect you as you can always bugger off back there or to any other european country of your choice (if they'll have you - oh wait, they will)?Give us your analysis of the current stock market situation.
Last Friday at about 7:45, I advised people to buy shares. Anyone who took my advice could have made(an average) 6% in 8.5 hours.
Today's recovery was nothing compared to Friday's.
If you want to take your advice from the propoganda driven BBC, then go ahead.
Anyway, give us your expert analysis.
wst said:
I know he's done a bit of firefighting over the weekend
Yep - I hear he offered to help Singapore Airlines out with a slight overheating problem with a coffee machine in one of their 777s.Result:
Aftermath:
<Bojo, on the blower to Cameron> David...Daaaaavid.....I've done it again David </Bojo, on the blower to Cameron>
vonuber said:
don4l said:
Tell us why you are depressed.
Give us your analysis of the current stock market situation.
Last Friday at about 7:45, I advised people to buy shares. Anyone who took my advice could have made(an average) 6% in 8.5 hours.
Today's recovery was nothing compared to Friday's.
If you want to take your advice from the propoganda driven BBC, then go ahead.
Anyway, give us your expert analysis.
Don't you have an Irish passport and therefore this doesn't actually affect you as you can always bugger off back there or to any other european country of your choice (if they'll have you - oh wait, they will)?Give us your analysis of the current stock market situation.
Last Friday at about 7:45, I advised people to buy shares. Anyone who took my advice could have made(an average) 6% in 8.5 hours.
Today's recovery was nothing compared to Friday's.
If you want to take your advice from the propoganda driven BBC, then go ahead.
Anyway, give us your expert analysis.
vonuber said:
Don't you have an Irish passport and therefore this doesn't actually affect you as you can always bugger off back there or to any other european country of your choice (if they'll have you - oh wait, they will)?
I think you'll find whilst Don was born Irish, he was raised as a Cockney. I think we'll have to blame to sound of Bow Bells for him being such a Cockney Winker.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff