Is Boris sh*tting himself?
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Derek Smith said:
Johnson wants nothing more that something akin to the Norwegian option. If, gods help us, he is in charge of negotiations, we'll end up, if what he said is true (just run with me on this one) with open borders remaining.
Brexit is not his thing, Johnson is.
Agreed!Brexit is not his thing, Johnson is.
I know that it looks unlikely, but Andrea Leadsom would be the best option, IMHO.
Derek Smith said:
Greg66 said:
SoS for Brexit would be a good role for Boris. He's got no experience of Government and put bluntly is nowhere near being ready to be PM yet (Transport Minister would be his other potential berth given his experience with bus and cycle lanes in London). Brexit is his "thing" so let him do it.
Johnson wants nothing more that something akin to the Norwegian option. If, gods help us, he is in charge of negotiations, we'll end up, if what he said is true (just run with me on this one) with open borders remaining. Brexit is not his thing, Johnson is.
marshalla said:
herewego said:
I don't see why the rest of us can't buy our financial services from centres in Paris or Frankfurt or anywhere else. Why should we be concerned about London FS?
. http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn06193.p...herewego said:
marshalla said:
herewego said:
I don't see why the rest of us can't buy our financial services from centres in Paris or Frankfurt or anywhere else. Why should we be concerned about London FS?
. http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn06193.p...Sam All said:
May in charge, Boris, George, Andrea, Gove in the cabinet.
There aren't the words for how much I don't want May anywhere near a position of authority. She is incapable of negotiation, a firm believer in the police state and the erosion of personal rights and privacy. The only reason people are saying "she's good" is because she's been hiding from the cameras during the referendum.Gove's reputation in the education sector is disasterous and Osborne wouldn't know how to kick start an economy if you gave him a large can of WD-40.
As Mayor, Boris showed that whilst he might not be the best at every job, he knows how to assemble a team that can deliver.
JagLover said:
Great news. The best person to deliver the will of the people. I hope the Tory Party see things the same way.jonah35 said:
"the banks" is a vague description
nationwide, TSB and co op bank and building societies like Coventry and Yorkshire typically only lend and borrow in the UK and they would still be here. They are the types of banks we, imho, need.
other banks that do more 'exotic' things and that trade more all over Europe and the world like HSBC etc could well have a reason to leave.
i can see it affecting the minority in central London but it would make not a jot of difference to anyone outside of that central financial district in London.
I can see why, therefore, people are forecasting London house prices to fall somewhat and why people in London wish to stay in. But, for those outside of London it won't make a blind bit of difference.
I feel sorry for people that will lose their jobs of course although I would have thought that if the banks moved to paris then the senior staff would move there. yes, we have voted out of the EU but just as you would if you worked for a US company the company could move you over there with a bit of paperwork.
there is no difference to my life now than there was last week.
Do you really not understand the amount of wealth / tax generated by these banks in the UK?nationwide, TSB and co op bank and building societies like Coventry and Yorkshire typically only lend and borrow in the UK and they would still be here. They are the types of banks we, imho, need.
other banks that do more 'exotic' things and that trade more all over Europe and the world like HSBC etc could well have a reason to leave.
i can see it affecting the minority in central London but it would make not a jot of difference to anyone outside of that central financial district in London.
I can see why, therefore, people are forecasting London house prices to fall somewhat and why people in London wish to stay in. But, for those outside of London it won't make a blind bit of difference.
I feel sorry for people that will lose their jobs of course although I would have thought that if the banks moved to paris then the senior staff would move there. yes, we have voted out of the EU but just as you would if you worked for a US company the company could move you over there with a bit of paperwork.
there is no difference to my life now than there was last week.
turbobloke said:
///ajd said:
We're being totally out played.
Totally outplayed...when exactly did their incessant cajoling to invoke A50 work? I missed the announcement from CMD that you must have seen somewhere.Being outplayed relates to Iceland and football not the EU and Remainian rhetoric, and Iceland were also sensible enough to withdraw their EU membership application recently.
Why have they stopped going on about article 50? Because the longer our idiot leaders dither and prevaricate and don't do anything at all, the longer banks and other businesses have to say "sod it, let's just move to Frankfurt for a bit of stability".
That's what's killing us, and we're doing it to ourselves. Try selling Cloud software services at the moment. Everything is completely paralysed because customers are paranoid about sensitive customer data security, and at present, they have absolutely no idea what jurisdiction it's going to eventually sit in, when and under whose rules. A week ago, data in Amsterdam, Paris, Berlin and London could be treated pretty much the same way. Now? Who knows?
don4l said:
If we put 10% import duty on German cars, Jaguar might be able to increase production.
It doesn't work like that. If we make foreign cars more expensive, our local producers have less reason to keep their prices down and as a nation we end up having to pay more for our cars (as foreign cars are more expensive, and local cars creep up). It's counter-intuitive, but we want people selling us cheap stuff and attempting to 'protect' industries just causes them to stagnate and slow down. Import tariffs harm us, not the importers.RizzoTheRat said:
jonah35 said:
other banks that do more 'exotic' things and that trade more all over Europe and the world like HSBC etc could well have a reason to leave.
I can see it affecting the minority in central London but it would make not a jot of difference to anyone outside of that central financial district in London.
How much tax do those banks pay?I can see it affecting the minority in central London but it would make not a jot of difference to anyone outside of that central financial district in London.
Edited by RizzoTheRat on Thursday 30th June 09:07
jonah35 said:
"the banks" is a vague description
nationwide, TSB and co op bank and building societies like Coventry and Yorkshire typically only lend and borrow in the UK and they would still be here. They are the types of banks we, imho, need.
other banks that do more 'exotic' things and that trade more all over Europe and the world like HSBC etc could well have a reason to leave.
I can see it affecting the minority in central London but it would make not a jot of difference to anyone outside of that central financial district in London.
I can see why, therefore, people are forecasting London house prices to fall somewhat and why people in London wish to stay in. But, for those outside of London it won't make a blind bit of difference.
I feel sorry for people that will lose their jobs of course although I would have thought that if the banks moved to paris then the senior staff would move there. yes, we have voted out of the EU but just as you would if you worked for a US company the company could move you over there with a bit of paperwork.
there is no difference to my life now than there was last week.
Its not just banks, its all financial services companies, and its not just London. Many have large serving centres outside London. For example JPM employs 4k people in Bournemouth working in its securities servicing centre. Many of these are servicing EU clients.nationwide, TSB and co op bank and building societies like Coventry and Yorkshire typically only lend and borrow in the UK and they would still be here. They are the types of banks we, imho, need.
other banks that do more 'exotic' things and that trade more all over Europe and the world like HSBC etc could well have a reason to leave.
I can see it affecting the minority in central London but it would make not a jot of difference to anyone outside of that central financial district in London.
I can see why, therefore, people are forecasting London house prices to fall somewhat and why people in London wish to stay in. But, for those outside of London it won't make a blind bit of difference.
I feel sorry for people that will lose their jobs of course although I would have thought that if the banks moved to paris then the senior staff would move there. yes, we have voted out of the EU but just as you would if you worked for a US company the company could move you over there with a bit of paperwork.
there is no difference to my life now than there was last week.
Nice to know you are OK. Shame you do not care about others.
Tuna said:
don4l said:
If we put 10% import duty on German cars, Jaguar might be able to increase production.
It doesn't work like that. If we make foreign cars more expensive, our local producers have less reason to keep their prices down and as a nation we end up having to pay more for our cars (as foreign cars are more expensive, and local cars creep up). It's counter-intuitive, but we want people selling us cheap stuff and attempting to 'protect' industries just causes them to stagnate and slow down. Import tariffs harm us, not the importers.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff