Is Boris sh*tting himself?

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anonymous-user

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55 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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don4l said:
Huh?
Is it just manufacturers that you suggest we put a tariff on or other sectors as well?

It's a question, nothing more.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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don4l said:
If you want to go all Patrick Minford, then we should just shut down all car production immediately. After all, we would all be better off. Wouldn't we?
He isn't suggesting shutting anything down in anticipation. He is suggesting allowing free trade so every country ends up doing what it's best at, that way we do end up better off. As far as individual industries are concerned, the Swallows and Amazons principle should apply.

Back in the seventies the UK motorcycle industry could have been protected by tariffs. Instead we had free trade, customers got better cheaper bikes, and when John Bloor decided to revive Triumph he didn't lobby for tariffs or government protection, instead hitting on the idea of building better bikes.
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Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Gove has just announced that he is not backing Boris, but standing himself.

EddieSteadyGo

11,972 posts

204 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Zod said:
Gove has just announced that he is not backing Boris, but standing himself.
And at the same time he said Boris can't provide the leadership or build the team for the task ahead...ouch!


Sam All

3,101 posts

102 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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EddieSteadyGo said:
Zod said:
Gove has just announced that he is not backing Boris, but standing himself.
And at the same time he said Boris can't provide the leadership or build the team for the task ahead...ouch!
The O'Jays song will be played often the next few days.

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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EddieSteadyGo said:
Zod said:
Gove has just announced that he is not backing Boris, but standing himself.
And at the same time he said Boris can't provide the leadership or build the team for the task ahead...ouch!
Boris made a last minute decision as to which side to support based on his assessment of which would be more likely to deliver him the keys to Number 10. He didn't give a toss about the result for the country, just for himself. Now we have to make the best of the stshow his mendacity delivered and he has to continue to "scratch" a living as a journalist, because now that they have refused to unite behind him he is not going to be PM, the self-obsessed buffoon.

turbobloke

103,985 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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JagLover said:
He won't get the crown but he may well take some votes from May and help Boris. Chancellor if Boris wins? Osborne did well before being part of the Pinocchio Effect and has lost out by backing the wrong horse.

turbobloke

103,985 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Kermit power said:
turbobloke said:
///ajd said:
We're being totally out played.
Totally outplayed...when exactly did their incessant cajoling to invoke A50 work? I missed the announcement from CMD that you must have seen somewhere.

Being outplayed relates to Iceland and football not the EU and Remainian rhetoric, and Iceland were also sensible enough to withdraw their EU membership application recently.
I'm not quite sure I understand exactly what you're saying, but if you're implying that they're not out-playing us because we're doing too good a job of doing it to ourselves, then you're absolutely spot on.

Why have they stopped going on about article 50? Because the longer our idiot leaders dither and prevaricate and don't do anything at all, the longer banks and other businesses have to say "sod it, let's just move to Frankfurt for a bit of stability".
Not quite what I had in mind! The EU is simply not outplaying us at the moment.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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turbobloke said:
He won't get the crown but he may well take some votes from May and help Boris. Chancellor if Boris wins? Osborne did well before being part of the Pinocchio Effect and has lost out by backing the wrong horse.
So do you think he is standing to purposely split the vote?

turbobloke

103,985 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Zod said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
Zod said:
Gove has just announced that he is not backing Boris, but standing himself.
And at the same time he said Boris can't provide the leadership or build the team for the task ahead...ouch!
Boris made a last minute decision as to which side to support based on his assessment of which would be more likely to deliver him the keys to Number 10. He didn't give a toss about the result for the country, just for himself. Now we have to make the best of the stshow his mendacity delivered and he has to continue to "scratch" a living as a journalist, because now that they have refused to unite behind him he is not going to be PM, the self-obsessed buffoon.
Your piqued cap is tilting a bit.

You weren't exactly Mystic Meg with the referendum, we can now wait to see how wrong you are with the Tory leadership.

turbobloke

103,985 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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desolate said:
turbobloke said:
He won't get the crown but he may well take some votes from May and help Boris. Chancellor if Boris wins? Osborne did well before being part of the Pinocchio Effect and has lost out by backing the wrong horse.
So do you think he is standing to purposely split the vote?
That cynical thought did pop up for some reason.

I'm not convinced he wants to be PM, which was part of the pop-up.

wc98

10,412 posts

141 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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desolate said:
turbobloke said:
He won't get the crown but he may well take some votes from May and help Boris. Chancellor if Boris wins? Osborne did well before being part of the Pinocchio Effect and has lost out by backing the wrong horse.
So do you think he is standing to purposely split the vote?
what if boris and gove have worked this out between them after realising there is a big movement against boris within the senior conservatives ? they have decided gove has a better chance of winning. he is running late for the press conference to announce his candidacy ,what is the betting he announces he is no longer running for the leadership ?

TTwiggy

11,546 posts

205 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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wc98 said:
what if boris and gove have worked this out between them after realising there is a big movement against boris within the senior conservatives ? they have decided gove has a better chance of winning. he is running late for the press conference to announce his candidacy ,what is the betting he announces he is no longer running for the leadership ?
I thought Sarah Vine's email made it clear that the problem with Boris is that Murdoch and Dacre don't like him?

turbobloke

103,985 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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TTwiggy said:
wc98 said:
what if boris and gove have worked this out between them after realising there is a big movement against boris within the senior conservatives ? they have decided gove has a better chance of winning. he is running late for the press conference to announce his candidacy ,what is the betting he announces he is no longer running for the leadership ?
I thought Sarah Vine's email made it clear that the problem with Boris is that Murdoch and Dacre don't like him?
They only get to vote if they're members of the Party so it's not an issue. CMD ran scared of The Guardian to his everlasting shame and we don't want a repeat of the leader being in fear of or being in the pocket of any media outlet.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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turbobloke said:
JagLover said:
He won't get the crown but he may well take some votes from Boris May and help May Boris. SoS for Brexit Chancellor if May Boris wins?
FTFY.

MichaelGove said:
But I have come, reluctantly, to the conclusion that Boris cannot provide the leadership or build the team for the task ahead.
He is most certainly not tag teaming with Boris.

turbobloke

103,985 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Greg66 said:
turbobloke said:
JagLover said:
He won't get the crown but he may well take some votes from Boris May and help May Boris. SoS for Brexit Chancellor if May Boris wins?
FTFY.

MichaelGove said:
But I have come, reluctantly, to the conclusion that Boris cannot provide the leadership or build the team for the task ahead.
He is most certainly not tag teaming with Boris.
These are politicians...your diagnosis plays them for straight people like you and me smile

So, a flawed analysis and the playful edit was unnecessary.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Boris not standing.

sirtyro

1,824 posts

199 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Just announced he's not running

Sam All

3,101 posts

102 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Smart decision.

wc98

10,412 posts

141 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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TTwiggy said:
wc98 said:
what if boris and gove have worked this out between them after realising there is a big movement against boris within the senior conservatives ? they have decided gove has a better chance of winning. he is running late for the press conference to announce his candidacy ,what is the betting he announces he is no longer running for the leadership ?
I thought Sarah Vine's email made it clear that the problem with Boris is that Murdoch and Dacre don't like him?
boom smile