Is Boris sh*tting himself?
Discussion
Jimboka said:
Sam All said:
He has not done badly for himself so far. His story is far from over. He just does not want to be at front, knowing there are many land mines strewed all over the place.
He was the leader of the Brexit liars and he got his way. Now the clueless little coward runs away as he has no chance of clearing up his mess. Good riddance, a month too late unfortunately.Looking at various comments people decided that when push came to shove that Boris just couldn't be trusted to delivery on any promises he might make about what he might do in exchange for support or about his future policy or negotiating position.
May cynically and all too obviously hedged her bets by moving from her long term Eurosceptic position then kept her head down during the campaign. She also has no obvious position except for being the alternative candidate. And she isn't particularly popular.
I can't say Gove would be an obvious choice but I'd at least believe he might do what he said he would and he seems smart and sneaky enough to deal with the shower of s
t he'd have to within the EU in the near future.
May cynically and all too obviously hedged her bets by moving from her long term Eurosceptic position then kept her head down during the campaign. She also has no obvious position except for being the alternative candidate. And she isn't particularly popular.
I can't say Gove would be an obvious choice but I'd at least believe he might do what he said he would and he seems smart and sneaky enough to deal with the shower of s
t he'd have to within the EU in the near future.So Johnson was sh*tting himself all the time.
Well I misjudged the man. I had no idea he lacked bottle.
He's been promised some role from the contenders, May and Gove. The gods help us all if it is an important one.
Gove has got baking of a lot of MPs but up against May for the final vote, which looks likely, I would not rate his chances.
Johnson, the bloke who took some days to make up his mind which would give him more opportunity, stay or leave campaigning, now says he was a passionate leaver all along. Yeah, right.
I knew he was two faced, but three?
Well I misjudged the man. I had no idea he lacked bottle.
He's been promised some role from the contenders, May and Gove. The gods help us all if it is an important one.
Gove has got baking of a lot of MPs but up against May for the final vote, which looks likely, I would not rate his chances.
Johnson, the bloke who took some days to make up his mind which would give him more opportunity, stay or leave campaigning, now says he was a passionate leaver all along. Yeah, right.
I knew he was two faced, but three?
Derek Smith said:
So Johnson was sh*tting himself all the time.
Well I misjudged the man. I had no idea he lacked bottle.
He's been promised some role from the contenders, May and Gove. The gods help us all if it is an important one.
Gove has got baking of a lot of MPs but up against May for the final vote, which looks likely, I would not rate his chances.
Johnson, the bloke who took some days to make up his mind which would give him more opportunity, stay or leave campaigning, now says he was a passionate leaver all along. Yeah, right.
I knew he was two faced, but three?
You don't know what has gone on behind the scenesWell I misjudged the man. I had no idea he lacked bottle.
He's been promised some role from the contenders, May and Gove. The gods help us all if it is an important one.
Gove has got baking of a lot of MPs but up against May for the final vote, which looks likely, I would not rate his chances.
Johnson, the bloke who took some days to make up his mind which would give him more opportunity, stay or leave campaigning, now says he was a passionate leaver all along. Yeah, right.
I knew he was two faced, but three?
So what's wrong with May as PM, Boris as FM, Osborne as Chancellor & Gove at the Home Office.
Robertj21a said:
Sam All said:
You don't know what has gone on behind the scenes
So what's wrong with May as PM, Boris as FM, Osborne as Chancellor & Gove at the Home Office.
Sounds pretty good to me.So what's wrong with May as PM, Boris as FM, Osborne as Chancellor & Gove at the Home Office.
Robertj21a said:
Sam All said:
You don't know what has gone on behind the scenes
So what's wrong with May as PM, Boris as FM, Osborne as Chancellor & Gove at the Home Office.
Sounds pretty good to me.So what's wrong with May as PM, Boris as FM, Osborne as Chancellor & Gove at the Home Office.
Derek Smith said:
So Johnson was sh*tting himself all the time.
Well I misjudged the man. I had no idea he lacked bottle.
He's been promised some role from the contenders, May and Gove. The gods help us all if it is an important one.
Gove has got baking of a lot of MPs but up against May for the final vote, which looks likely, I would not rate his chances.
Johnson, the bloke who took some days to make up his mind which would give him more opportunity, stay or leave campaigning, now says he was a passionate leaver all along. Yeah, right.
I knew he was two faced, but three?
I suspect there was a bit more to it than that. Rumours are that Gove lost confidence in him, and then stuck the knife in. Well I misjudged the man. I had no idea he lacked bottle.
He's been promised some role from the contenders, May and Gove. The gods help us all if it is an important one.
Gove has got baking of a lot of MPs but up against May for the final vote, which looks likely, I would not rate his chances.
Johnson, the bloke who took some days to make up his mind which would give him more opportunity, stay or leave campaigning, now says he was a passionate leaver all along. Yeah, right.
I knew he was two faced, but three?
Sheets Tabuer said:
s2art said:
I suspect there was a bit more to it than that. Rumours are that Gove lost confidence in him, and then stuck the knife in.
Be a friend of someone for 30 years then stick the knife in when he's not looking, wkerSam All said:
So what's wrong with May as PM, Boris as FM, Osborne as Chancellor & Gove at the Home Office.
Where to start...First-up - given this is ENTIRELY down to the Leave Campaign, I feel one of their more prominent supporters should take the lead at this point
Gove said himself he wasn't upto a job he's now applied for - he was already 'most punchable face in Britain' and yet I want to punch it even more.
That really only leaves Boris - and he's crying in the corner (at a guess, awaiting the call to save the world which isn't coming)
What we're seeing here is the Tories (who, let's be clear, are 100% responsible for this mess) sorting-out their own issues but not giving 1 s
t for anyone else (surprised?)I think a stronger message may be required - you've been given a task, you need to appoint people willing to carry that out - this isn't just a 'free shot at top job', promises have been made about 'making Britain great again' etc. etc.
Who made those?
Sam All said:
You don't know what has gone on behind the scenes
So what's wrong with May as PM, Boris as FM, Osborne as Chancellor & Gove at the Home Office.
In all seriousness, I'd rather have Clarkson and Hammond job-sharing as Foreign Minister with a bet to see which one can mortally offend the most foreign heads of state before the end of the next parliament than see Boris in the role!So what's wrong with May as PM, Boris as FM, Osborne as Chancellor & Gove at the Home Office.
He played a totally bogus position, went all in on a narrow remain vote, and then went immediately silent as soon as it became clear that he'd lost.
Any man so utterly arrogant that he thinks it's OK to risk the state of the whole country for his own personal gain and then f
k up so badly should never, ever be allowed near the top table of politics as anything other than a waiter.s2art said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
s2art said:
I suspect there was a bit more to it than that. Rumours are that Gove lost confidence in him, and then stuck the knife in.
Be a friend of someone for 30 years then stick the knife in when he's not looking, wkerhttp://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/may/15/mi...
The only situation he'd be ideal as PM was if we knew 100% the PM was about to be assassinated and couldn't stop it...
405dogvan said:
s2art said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
s2art said:
I suspect there was a bit more to it than that. Rumours are that Gove lost confidence in him, and then stuck the knife in.
Be a friend of someone for 30 years then stick the knife in when he's not looking, wkerThe only situation he'd be ideal as PM was if we knew 100% the PM was about to be assassinated and couldn't stop it...
just reflecting on 35 pages of responses to the question is boris stting himself? I'd say a big fat yes.
Spineless coward who has put his own ambition before the needs of his country in crisis.
Hopefully, he will stop making bullst speeches now attempting to be a modern day Churchill.
bd.
tting himself? I'd say a big fat yes. Spineless coward who has put his own ambition before the needs of his country in crisis.
Hopefully, he will stop making bulls
t speeches now attempting to be a modern day Churchill. b
d.
Sam All said:
You don't know what has gone on behind the scenes
?Of course I don't. I didn't think I'd have to explain it every time I posted an opinion.
However, I've got history to support me I think.
s2art said:
I suspect there was a bit more to it than that. Rumours are that Gove lost confidence in him, and then stuck the knife in.
I don't think Gove has enough authority on his own to overturn Johnson's popularity. The rather clumsily performed exposure of the email was more, I think, the justification for Gove to backtrack on what he has said for years: that he had no interest in the leadership of the party. No one believed him, I bet, but it would be something an unoverwhelmed press might use as a stick to beat him with. I think that Johnson's aspirations have been turned by the promise of some sort of well-paid sinecure, so he can continue with his other jobs without MPing getting in the way.
I have to admit to being wrong about him though. I'm certain he didn't expect to get past the selection procedure so why pull out now? There's got to be a reason. Of course he could have thought that it would be best for the party, that his sacrifice might pull everyone together at a difficult time (albeit he was instrumental in it), and that he felt that May had bigger balls than him.
Strange times. Who would have thought that Milliband might not have been the strangest looking party leader we've ever had? The thought of Gove eating a burger is enough to put even Johnson off his food. But not his women.
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