Wisdom with Age

[gnc]

how do they know the age of the voters, no one asked me my age. or are they guessing by the famous accurate polls, more bull doing the rounds.

[alfie2244]

gnc said:

how do they know the age of the voters, no one asked me my age. or are they guessing by the famous accurate polls, more bull doing the rounds.

That little number on the voting slip put against your name on the voters list perhaps? Nah only a cynical conspiracy theorist would think that.

[anonymous-user]

Certaintly isn't the age of wisdom either.

[Hosenbugler]

gottans said:

Certaintly isn't the age of wisdom either.

Apparently, you know, being so superior and all. Why don't you just try and grow up? People of your ilk really do need to do a reality check. So sad.

[Pan Pan Pan]

mygoldfishbowl said:

AndrewCrown said:

Now all the referendum data is being collated it appears the older voter was more inclined towards exit.

There is significant vitriol flying about how the more aged voter won't have to live with the decision and how they may have shafted the future for the young.

I look at this through a different lens... Anyone over 45 has seen enough 'cycles' of global change to form a view' Cognisant of 1000s of world changing events and seen politicians come and go.... We learn, become wiser and now wince at some of the silly things we did in our youth...

So are the older exit voters actually giving the young an opportunity here?

I look at it like this... Young people know st but they think they know everything.

You could be right there. The older more experienced voter has benchmarks they have taken from experience to guide the way they might vote, or as someone once put it, The
older person generally does know a lot, The younger person `thinks' they know a lot.

[V8RX7]

Most of my friends (mostly: 40's, degree educated, middle class) voted out.

We would hope to have 40+ years left in us, bear in mind we never voted IN - indeed those who voted in 1975 (who would be at least 58 now) didn't vote IN for what we have now, let alone where the EU seems to be going.

My degree educated 23yr old daughter tells me she voted out but equally said she didn't think she had been given enough information to make an informed choice.

[alfie2244]

Pan Pan Pan said:

You could be right there. The older more experienced voter has benchmarks they have taken from experience to guide the way they might vote, or as someone once put it, The
older person generally does know a lot, The younger person `thinks' they know a lot.

Or put simply..........fool me once shame on you...........fool me twice shame on me.

[steveT350C]

V8RX7 said:

Most of my friends (mostly: 40's, degree educated, middle class) voted out.

We would hope to have 40+ years left in us, bear in mind we never voted IN - indeed those who voted in 1975 (who would be at least 58 now) didn't vote IN for what we have now, let alone where the EU seems to be going.

My degree educated 23yr old daughter tells me she voted out but equally said she didn't think she had been given enough information to make an informed choice.

+1 for me, well said.

and for fun....

[Piersman2]

Garvin said:

Could it be that the old have, in fact, voted for what they perceive to be a better future for the young and the young just no longer have any courage? Or do the young, in fact, actually think they have a jolly good life after all and are just a generation of lilly-livered whingers and moaners?

I'm, approaching 50. (Christ that sounds old! )

I voted out because I want a UK with more opportunities for our youngsters, for the thick and clever, for my 3 kids who are all in higher education at the moment. I don't want a UK shackled by an EU in the grips of a small select FIFA style cabal , who seem more willing to do the bidding of the big corporates than the millions of people they are supposed to be representing. I want a UK that is developed by it's own government to be a society and industrious nation where ALL levels of citizens have opportunities to better themselves. To not achieve this is to lead to internal strife and revolution, there's nothing wrong with the rich getting richer... but it shouldn't be at the cost of the 'poor' people losing all sense of hope.

And to add to a comment made earlier, at 50 I've seen, black Wednesdays, black Fridays, ERM exits, EURO rejections, global melt-downs and markets that go up and down like a we's draws. The fuss and overreaction of the little blips yesterday are nothing but shameful. Those continuing to peddle the market results as the sky falling in based on a 1 hours window in the morning deserve to be taken outside, put in stocks, and be pelted with rotten vegetables. wkers.

[Halb]

Piersman2 said:

I voted out because I want a UK with more opportunities for our youngsters,

Do you think that'll be the case?

[Hosenbugler]

Halb said:

Piersman2 said:

I voted out because I want a UK with more opportunities for our youngsters,

Do you think that'll be the case?

Yup, so does this bloke : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwqPf-8aNwo

[TheInternet]

Gandahar said:

That was for Glastonbury.

Where you can bet that most in the crowd were too busy with the festival to vote, but cheer for Albarn when he tells them 'we can change it'.

[Piersman2]

Halb said:

Piersman2 said:

I voted out because I want a UK with more opportunities for our youngsters,

Do you think that'll be the case?

Yes, I sincerely do.

I've been working in large global corporate companies for the last 18 years. As a contractor I've worked in maybe 10-12 different companies, on IT projects mainly.

When I look around an open plan office now I might see 100 people sat there. I see a selection of Brits, Indians, Europeans, South Africans, Kiwis, Australians, and other assorted nations from all around the world, an eclectic mix of styles and personalities, and the workplace is richer for it!

However, what I don't see is anyone under 30. I don't see youngsters having the opportunities I did when I was in my early 20's, to be working among people who could train and nurture and effectively be educating their successors. We need to be able to balance our immigration rules to ensure a balance of homegrown and imported resources, otherwise we risk losing yet more pools of knowledge from UK PLC, as we already have done in the nuclear industry as an example.

[anonymous-user]

Hosenbugler, I don't think this is an age of wisdom. If it was the question may not have been asked but it was, the campaigns would have informed people and explored the pro's and con's of the argument instead of dividing the country, politicians would not have manipulated things for their own ends and lastly the country wouldn't be wondering what the hell happened.

But history will decide the wisdom of current events.

[SPS]

Balmoral said:

Only 24% of the 18-25 year olds who were registered to vote actually bothered to do so. If the young feel they need to blame anyone, they should maybe start with their peers first.

I actually had some of my students - online - saying that they could not be bothered as it would make no difference, oh really!
Then some had the audacity to moan about old voters who would be dead in a few years screwing it up for them.
I promptly reminded them of their previous comments a few weeks prior.
As one wise old soul said "youth is wasted on the young"

Edited by SPS on Sunday 26th June 19:06

[Piersman2]

gottans said:

Hosenbugler, I don't think this is an age of wisdom. If it was the question may not have been asked but it was, the campaigns would have informed people and explored the pro's and con's of the argument instead of dividing the country, politicians would not have manipulated things for their own ends and lastly the country wouldn't be wondering what the hell happened.

But history will decide the wisdom of current events.

I don't think anyone is accusing the politicians responsible for this with the having the wisdom of age. They've demonstrated for 20 years or more a complete lack of wisdom. Political game-playing and self serving action, but no great wisdom!

[Gandahar]

I have to say this made me chuckle

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36629073/wha...

Picture of young lady with earphones in who

" woke up, scrolled through Facebook and saw the result so rushed downstairs to talk to someone in her family."

Apparently you can follow this young lady sort out our mess by doing the following -

Find us on Instagram at BBCNewsbeat and follow us on Snapchat, search for bbc_newsbeat

My mum was working at 14 rather than being paid to be plugged into The Matrix

[Piersman2]

Gandahar said:

I have to say this made me chuckle

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36629073/wha...

Picture of young lady with earphones in who

" woke up, scrolled through Facebook and saw the result so rushed downstairs to talk to someone in her family."

Apparently you can follow this young lady sort out our mess by doing the following -

Find us on Instagram at BBCNewsbeat and follow us on Snapchat, search for bbc_newsbeat

My mum was working at 14 rather than being paid to be plugged into The Matrix

Jesus Christ!!! Not expecting much balance seeing as I spotted the BBC in the link, but that 'article' is yet another stunning piece of anti-leaver propaganda which the BBC has been peddling since Friday morning. I genuinely can't believe I'm seeing the BBC get away with this!

[rscott]

55palfers said:

It's high time to stop blaming the electorate and look to who provided the information on which the voting decisions where based.

Both sides ran negative, childish, illiterate, uninformative and generally appalling, amateurish campaigns.

I don't recall the Remain camp coming out with what could be good for us and the Leave lot just banged on about the spurious £350M a day for the NHS and border control.

Tossers the lot of them.

Trouble is, who is there to actually negotiate our EU divorce with any degree of competence?

Well said.

Saw an interesting comment by an American after seeing some of the 'less informed' leave voters shown by the C4 news :-

This shows we also need to fix our education systems to teach the public that they should never just accept headlines but should dig for the detail behind them.

[gnc]

supposed secret ballot ! i voted out to try and right the wrong i did in the 70s. one thing for sure is they wont ask us thick plebs to make a decision again. the dog waits for the day it can bite back, and it has.