"No more Polish vermin"

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adam quantrill

11,535 posts

241 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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@mph1977 - And was this a family-run business or a global multinational?

Part of the problem goes all the way up and beyond the shop floor, facilitated by EU "free trade" that allows profits to be siphoned off to Luxembourg and then to the BVI or whatnot.

That soft of company sees the workers as drones, no self-respect is nurtured, the wages are crap, and they encourage free movement of labour to compress low-end wages.

This is the system we have just freed ourselves from. Hopefully.


Edited by adam quantrill on Sunday 26th June 23:16

Sam All

3,101 posts

100 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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vonuber said:
Given I (and the other half) both have polish surnames it's going to be interesting to see what happens.

Farage and co have sown the seeds by banging on about immigration. Fun times ahead.
Walk tall and go about your life as normal. You need to remove Farage & Co & pessimism from your mind.

T5XARV

600 posts

133 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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del mar said:
But for millions of people this is what the vote was about.

Look at some of the counties with large migrant populations. Boston has seen a 467% increase in its foreign born population. Their out vote was 75%, their town has changed beyond all recognition.

Yet we will sit here and call them racist and "little englander".
With large corporate/agricultural employers laughing all the way to the stock exchange....

What an insult to the many displaced young people who would naturally occupy these roles but can't get through the door due to ticking the 'White British' box on the application form. But hey, who gives a .........?
Still, with their swaggering, boorish manners, loud voices and a penchant for swigging a refreshing can of beer at 9am our vibrant new neighbours are clearly here to out-chav our chavs.....how european !
Which is of course wonderful economic news for scumbag landlords, Sports Direct, suppliers of cheap fags and goldy-lookin' chains, ridiculous vapes, Rover 75's and ancient Mercs .

Sam All

3,101 posts

100 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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rscott said:
A summary of some of the abuse received since the result - http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/26/explosion-post-... .

We all know it's only a tiny minority saying this - but it's a very, very vocal one which needs addressing before it escalates.
Hugely regrettable, but will Euro foorball violence incidents exceed these? Sad, sad situation.

souper

2,433 posts

210 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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vonuber said:
del mar said:
But for millions of people this is what the vote was about.

Look at some of the counties with large migrant populations. Boston has seen a 467% increase in its foreign born population. Their out vote was 75%, their town has changed beyond all recognition.

Yet we will sit here and call them racist and "little englander".
What, telling Polish people to fk off?
More like the Polish or Polish employed agency telling the little Englanders to fckoff! they have newly arrived Magda from Warsaw sleeping in bedroom shift 4 at flat 22d who needs old Mrs Smiths job to pay her share or Anatazj from Lodz will do cheaper. Old Mrs Smith can f/off just because she's been at her job for 25 years she can clam dole her englander husband on Forklifts is next...

Edited by souper on Sunday 26th June 23:29

mph1977

12,467 posts

167 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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vonuber said:
del mar said:
But for millions of people this is what the vote was about.

Look at some of the counties with large migrant populations. Boston has seen a 467% increase in its foreign born population. Their out vote was 75%, their town has changed beyond all recognition.

Yet we will sit here and call them racist and "little englander".
What, telling Polish people to fk off?
Boston's decline ?

those british who could leave did leave ? going to happen regardless with a settlement like Boston

aside from the public sector ( and then that;s only really local services and the DGH - county hall is in Lincoln, trust HQ for the hospitals is Lincoln - trust HQ for the mental health and community trusts were Sleaford or Lincoln ... there are only so many mangerial and technical roles to go around and even if a company was 'local' it makes much more sense for head office to be in Grantham, Newark, Stamford or Peterborough ( ECML and A1 links) ... same with higher paying roles or the retailers etc ...

port of Boston - small port, limited in the size of vessel it can take and st road and rial links compared to the humber ports or the Suffolk ports ...

food processing increasingly automated or 'line work' considered below the locals even though they can't read can't rite and can barely drive a tractor ...

also not goingto get the village wives and children out to help with harvesting like in the rose tinted past ...

hornet

6,333 posts

249 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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fido said:
Some lefty group like 38 degrees sticking some photos together so that their lefty / student / hipster fanbase can share on FB - that's not news - it's propaganda. It's the same lies and rubbish that we had before the referendum. If we did get the wrong result then these idiots are partly to blame.
Regardless of who compiled them, they still document some deeply unpleasant behaviour that seems to have bubbled to the surface in the wake of the leave result. There's enough photo and video footage to suggest it's clearly not "lies and rubbish".

Terminator X

14,922 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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vonuber said:
Terminator X said:
65m people in the UK so you will have some knobheads. Nowt more to it than that imho. Media saturation is seriously getting on my nerves though.

TX.
What, because it is highlighting news? You want the news not to report news?
Both sides of the story might help but of course that wouldn't set the locals against each other of course.

TX.

Edited by Terminator X on Sunday 26th June 23:54

imp123

281 posts

243 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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hairyben said:
vonuber said:
And not once did you call the HSE and get it shut down? That's really worrying if you are in the trade.
Dont think they have any real authority /power on small private sites
If the risk is significant then yes the HSE can shut down a site and take other forms of action to control risk.

s3fella

10,524 posts

186 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Been watching Sky and BBC and these "racist abuse events" are getting plenty of coverage. But one thing seems common at the moment. All the reports are along the lines of "I heard that this happened" or "I saw this man harassing XYZ" One woman on Sky said she overheard something a guy was saying to a "market trader" and it was very racist and she had never heard anything like it.

OK, it all may be true, but why are the victims not speaking to Sky etc? Why is it always "I saw this or my mate heard this"

I'm not convinced some of these things reported actually happened. Although I am sure some if it will have, and it is poor form.

underwhelmist

1,852 posts

133 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Flip Martian said:
Its not confined to a few notes about Poles in one place. There are incidents being reported on social media all over, even in central London, of people being told they're "going home" or told to "go home, we voted to get rid of you" and suchlike. Anyone with a foreign accent, name or dark skin seems to now be a target. Even those born here.

Closet racists seem to now think they have 17 million+ supporters and it's safe and normal to say exactly what they think

I hope people in the street hearing these things won't just "walk on by, not my problem" but that seems to be what many usually do.
This is what's worrying me. My wife is Indian (originally a refugee from Amin's Uganda) and my kids are consequently mixed race. We're conscious that the "go back to where you came from" attitudes have now been given a sliver of validation and we're just waiting for them to emerge. Footage I've seen today from a far-right rabble (I refuse to dignify it by calling it a demonstration) outside a mosque in Birmingham, and other incidents, tell me that these attitudes have just become a bit more acceptable in the eyes of many.

s3fella

10,524 posts

186 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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underwhelmist said:
Flip Martian said:
Its not confined to a few notes about Poles in one place. There are incidents being reported on social media all over, even in central London, of people being told they're "going home" or told to "go home, we voted to get rid of you" and suchlike. Anyone with a foreign accent, name or dark skin seems to now be a target. Even those born here.

Closet racists seem to now think they have 17 million+ supporters and it's safe and normal to say exactly what they think

I hope people in the street hearing these things won't just "walk on by, not my problem" but that seems to be what many usually do.
This is what's worrying me. My wife is Indian (originally a refugee from Amin's Uganda) and my kids are consequently mixed race. We're conscious that the "go back to where you came from" attitudes have now been given a sliver of validation and we're just waiting for them to emerge. Footage I've seen today from a far-right rabble (I refuse to dignify it by calling it a demonstration) outside a mosque in Birmingham, and other incidents, tell me that these attitudes have just become a bit more acceptable in the eyes of many.
I'd not worry about it one bit if I were you. These reports "all over social media"?
How many are we talking? I've seen none.
Presume all have been reported to the Police?

I think it is either
1. made up bullst.
2. Isolated bravardo from thick as st neandertals.

Either way, I would reassure your wife and kids they need not be worried.

PositronicRay

26,959 posts

182 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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The right wing thugs seem to think they have a mandate from 1/2 the country to get on with this vile practise. We need courage strength and unity, unfortunately the last ones just fked up.

Flip Martian

19,512 posts

189 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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s3fella said:
I'd not worry about it one bit if I were you. These reports "all over social media"?
How many are we talking? I've seen none.
Presume all have been reported to the Police?

I think it is either
1. made up bullst.
2. Isolated bravardo from thick as st neandertals.

Either way, I would reassure your wife and kids they need not be worried.
They're individual reports on Twitter and other places from individuals. A C4 journalist was one, doing a piece to camera and witnessing some abuse in the area, others are individuals around the country. Not the people being abused, people witnessing the abuse.

I gave up reading after about 30 yesterday morning. I doubt the witnesses have any clue as to whether the victim went to police. I hope at least they spoke up, rather than just tweet about it.

Bravado only has one r, by the way.

vonuber

17,868 posts

164 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Less we forget, an mp was murdered as well.

tarnished

13,602 posts

95 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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PositronicRay said:
The right wing thugs seem to think they have a mandate from 1/2 the country to get on with this vile practise. We need courage strength and unity, unfortunately the last ones just fked up.
While the 48% are still shouting xenophobe and racist at the 52% of the country they probably do think they have a mandate.

Camoradi

4,285 posts

255 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Those signs are disgraceful. If people are here legally and obey our laws then they should not be insulted in this way. My brother in law has suffered constant downward pressure on his daily earnings (self employed carpenter/joiner) due to Eastern European immigration, but he would never condone this.

If people don't like it, they can vote to change the system (as they have), not blame the people who make the effort to better their lives within the system.

Flip Martian

19,512 posts

189 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Now the Leave campaign has come out and said there won't be any changes to immigration, I wonder where the "we voted to leave so you go home" brigade goes next.

I am tempted to think if that had been made clear, these idiots (and they are a minority) probably wouldn't have bothered to vote. Having them vote for nothing (in their eyes) may well turn them further off the democratic process.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

227 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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mph1977 said:
vonuber said:
del mar said:
But for millions of people this is what the vote was about.

Look at some of the counties with large migrant populations. Boston has seen a 467% increase in its foreign born population. Their out vote was 75%, their town has changed beyond all recognition.

Yet we will sit here and call them racist and "little englander".
What, telling Polish people to fk off?
Boston's decline ?

those british who could leave did leave ? going to happen regardless with a settlement like Boston

aside from the public sector ( and then that;s only really local services and the DGH - county hall is in Lincoln, trust HQ for the hospitals is Lincoln - trust HQ for the mental health and community trusts were Sleaford or Lincoln ... there are only so many mangerial and technical roles to go around and even if a company was 'local' it makes much more sense for head office to be in Grantham, Newark, Stamford or Peterborough ( ECML and A1 links) ... same with higher paying roles or the retailers etc ...

port of Boston - small port, limited in the size of vessel it can take and st road and rial links compared to the humber ports or the Suffolk ports ...

food processing increasingly automated or 'line work' considered below the locals even though they can't read can't rite and can barely drive a tractor ...

also not goingto get the village wives and children out to help with harvesting like in the rose tinted past ...
Boston was a poop hole before the migrant fuss.

I should know, I went to college and worked there for a bit.

stitched

3,813 posts

172 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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underwhelmist said:
This is what's worrying me. My wife is Indian (originally a refugee from Amin's Uganda) and my kids are consequently mixed race. We're conscious that the "go back to where you came from" attitudes have now been given a sliver of validation and we're just waiting for them to emerge. Footage I've seen today from a far-right rabble (I refuse to dignify it by calling it a demonstration) outside a mosque in Birmingham, and other incidents, tell me that these attitudes have just become a bit more acceptable in the eyes of many.
I and many of my friends voted to leave the EU. I don't have a single racist amongst my friends and would not tolerate one as a friend.
The neanderthal dheads spouting racist tripe today were here before the referendum, unfortunately they will still be here tomorrow however we have domestic laws to deal with them and sooner rather than later they will realise that voting out of the EU gives them no mandate to spout bile.
My apologies if this makes life uncomfortable for you and yours in the short term but please rest assured that this country will always welcome people who add to its success.
My vote to leave was due to the anti democratic swing of what was becoming a federal state of Europe.