"No more Polish vermin"
Discussion
@mph1977 - And was this a family-run business or a global multinational?
Part of the problem goes all the way up and beyond the shop floor, facilitated by EU "free trade" that allows profits to be siphoned off to Luxembourg and then to the BVI or whatnot.
That soft of company sees the workers as drones, no self-respect is nurtured, the wages are crap, and they encourage free movement of labour to compress low-end wages.
This is the system we have just freed ourselves from. Hopefully.
Part of the problem goes all the way up and beyond the shop floor, facilitated by EU "free trade" that allows profits to be siphoned off to Luxembourg and then to the BVI or whatnot.
That soft of company sees the workers as drones, no self-respect is nurtured, the wages are crap, and they encourage free movement of labour to compress low-end wages.
This is the system we have just freed ourselves from. Hopefully.
Edited by adam quantrill on Sunday 26th June 23:16
vonuber said:
Given I (and the other half) both have polish surnames it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
Farage and co have sown the seeds by banging on about immigration. Fun times ahead.
Walk tall and go about your life as normal. You need to remove Farage & Co & pessimism from your mind.Farage and co have sown the seeds by banging on about immigration. Fun times ahead.
del mar said:
But for millions of people this is what the vote was about.
Look at some of the counties with large migrant populations. Boston has seen a 467% increase in its foreign born population. Their out vote was 75%, their town has changed beyond all recognition.
Yet we will sit here and call them racist and "little englander".
With large corporate/agricultural employers laughing all the way to the stock exchange....Look at some of the counties with large migrant populations. Boston has seen a 467% increase in its foreign born population. Their out vote was 75%, their town has changed beyond all recognition.
Yet we will sit here and call them racist and "little englander".
What an insult to the many displaced young people who would naturally occupy these roles but can't get through the door due to ticking the 'White British' box on the application form. But hey, who gives a .........?
Still, with their swaggering, boorish manners, loud voices and a penchant for swigging a refreshing can of beer at 9am our vibrant new neighbours are clearly here to out-chav our chavs.....how european !
Which is of course wonderful economic news for scumbag landlords, Sports Direct, suppliers of cheap fags and goldy-lookin' chains, ridiculous vapes, Rover 75's and ancient Mercs .
rscott said:
A summary of some of the abuse received since the result - http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/26/explosion-post-... .
We all know it's only a tiny minority saying this - but it's a very, very vocal one which needs addressing before it escalates.
Hugely regrettable, but will Euro foorball violence incidents exceed these? Sad, sad situation.We all know it's only a tiny minority saying this - but it's a very, very vocal one which needs addressing before it escalates.
vonuber said:
del mar said:
But for millions of people this is what the vote was about.
Look at some of the counties with large migrant populations. Boston has seen a 467% increase in its foreign born population. Their out vote was 75%, their town has changed beyond all recognition.
Yet we will sit here and call them racist and "little englander".
What, telling Polish people to fk off?Look at some of the counties with large migrant populations. Boston has seen a 467% increase in its foreign born population. Their out vote was 75%, their town has changed beyond all recognition.
Yet we will sit here and call them racist and "little englander".
Edited by souper on Sunday 26th June 23:29
vonuber said:
del mar said:
But for millions of people this is what the vote was about.
Look at some of the counties with large migrant populations. Boston has seen a 467% increase in its foreign born population. Their out vote was 75%, their town has changed beyond all recognition.
Yet we will sit here and call them racist and "little englander".
What, telling Polish people to fk off?Look at some of the counties with large migrant populations. Boston has seen a 467% increase in its foreign born population. Their out vote was 75%, their town has changed beyond all recognition.
Yet we will sit here and call them racist and "little englander".
those british who could leave did leave ? going to happen regardless with a settlement like Boston
aside from the public sector ( and then that;s only really local services and the DGH - county hall is in Lincoln, trust HQ for the hospitals is Lincoln - trust HQ for the mental health and community trusts were Sleaford or Lincoln ... there are only so many mangerial and technical roles to go around and even if a company was 'local' it makes much more sense for head office to be in Grantham, Newark, Stamford or Peterborough ( ECML and A1 links) ... same with higher paying roles or the retailers etc ...
port of Boston - small port, limited in the size of vessel it can take and st road and rial links compared to the humber ports or the Suffolk ports ...
food processing increasingly automated or 'line work' considered below the locals even though they can't read can't rite and can barely drive a tractor ...
also not goingto get the village wives and children out to help with harvesting like in the rose tinted past ...
fido said:
Some lefty group like 38 degrees sticking some photos together so that their lefty / student / hipster fanbase can share on FB - that's not news - it's propaganda. It's the same lies and rubbish that we had before the referendum. If we did get the wrong result then these idiots are partly to blame.
Regardless of who compiled them, they still document some deeply unpleasant behaviour that seems to have bubbled to the surface in the wake of the leave result. There's enough photo and video footage to suggest it's clearly not "lies and rubbish".vonuber said:
Terminator X said:
65m people in the UK so you will have some knobheads. Nowt more to it than that imho. Media saturation is seriously getting on my nerves though.
TX.
What, because it is highlighting news? You want the news not to report news?TX.
TX.
Edited by Terminator X on Sunday 26th June 23:54
hairyben said:
vonuber said:
And not once did you call the HSE and get it shut down? That's really worrying if you are in the trade.
Dont think they have any real authority /power on small private sitesBeen watching Sky and BBC and these "racist abuse events" are getting plenty of coverage. But one thing seems common at the moment. All the reports are along the lines of "I heard that this happened" or "I saw this man harassing XYZ" One woman on Sky said she overheard something a guy was saying to a "market trader" and it was very racist and she had never heard anything like it.
OK, it all may be true, but why are the victims not speaking to Sky etc? Why is it always "I saw this or my mate heard this"
I'm not convinced some of these things reported actually happened. Although I am sure some if it will have, and it is poor form.
OK, it all may be true, but why are the victims not speaking to Sky etc? Why is it always "I saw this or my mate heard this"
I'm not convinced some of these things reported actually happened. Although I am sure some if it will have, and it is poor form.
Flip Martian said:
Its not confined to a few notes about Poles in one place. There are incidents being reported on social media all over, even in central London, of people being told they're "going home" or told to "go home, we voted to get rid of you" and suchlike. Anyone with a foreign accent, name or dark skin seems to now be a target. Even those born here.
Closet racists seem to now think they have 17 million+ supporters and it's safe and normal to say exactly what they think
I hope people in the street hearing these things won't just "walk on by, not my problem" but that seems to be what many usually do.
This is what's worrying me. My wife is Indian (originally a refugee from Amin's Uganda) and my kids are consequently mixed race. We're conscious that the "go back to where you came from" attitudes have now been given a sliver of validation and we're just waiting for them to emerge. Footage I've seen today from a far-right rabble (I refuse to dignify it by calling it a demonstration) outside a mosque in Birmingham, and other incidents, tell me that these attitudes have just become a bit more acceptable in the eyes of many.Closet racists seem to now think they have 17 million+ supporters and it's safe and normal to say exactly what they think
I hope people in the street hearing these things won't just "walk on by, not my problem" but that seems to be what many usually do.
underwhelmist said:
Flip Martian said:
Its not confined to a few notes about Poles in one place. There are incidents being reported on social media all over, even in central London, of people being told they're "going home" or told to "go home, we voted to get rid of you" and suchlike. Anyone with a foreign accent, name or dark skin seems to now be a target. Even those born here.
Closet racists seem to now think they have 17 million+ supporters and it's safe and normal to say exactly what they think
I hope people in the street hearing these things won't just "walk on by, not my problem" but that seems to be what many usually do.
This is what's worrying me. My wife is Indian (originally a refugee from Amin's Uganda) and my kids are consequently mixed race. We're conscious that the "go back to where you came from" attitudes have now been given a sliver of validation and we're just waiting for them to emerge. Footage I've seen today from a far-right rabble (I refuse to dignify it by calling it a demonstration) outside a mosque in Birmingham, and other incidents, tell me that these attitudes have just become a bit more acceptable in the eyes of many.Closet racists seem to now think they have 17 million+ supporters and it's safe and normal to say exactly what they think
I hope people in the street hearing these things won't just "walk on by, not my problem" but that seems to be what many usually do.
How many are we talking? I've seen none.
Presume all have been reported to the Police?
I think it is either
1. made up bullst.
2. Isolated bravardo from thick as st neandertals.
Either way, I would reassure your wife and kids they need not be worried.
s3fella said:
I'd not worry about it one bit if I were you. These reports "all over social media"?
How many are we talking? I've seen none.
Presume all have been reported to the Police?
I think it is either
1. made up bullst.
2. Isolated bravardo from thick as st neandertals.
Either way, I would reassure your wife and kids they need not be worried.
They're individual reports on Twitter and other places from individuals. A C4 journalist was one, doing a piece to camera and witnessing some abuse in the area, others are individuals around the country. Not the people being abused, people witnessing the abuse.How many are we talking? I've seen none.
Presume all have been reported to the Police?
I think it is either
1. made up bullst.
2. Isolated bravardo from thick as st neandertals.
Either way, I would reassure your wife and kids they need not be worried.
I gave up reading after about 30 yesterday morning. I doubt the witnesses have any clue as to whether the victim went to police. I hope at least they spoke up, rather than just tweet about it.
Bravado only has one r, by the way.
PositronicRay said:
The right wing thugs seem to think they have a mandate from 1/2 the country to get on with this vile practise. We need courage strength and unity, unfortunately the last ones just fked up.
While the 48% are still shouting xenophobe and racist at the 52% of the country they probably do think they have a mandate.Those signs are disgraceful. If people are here legally and obey our laws then they should not be insulted in this way. My brother in law has suffered constant downward pressure on his daily earnings (self employed carpenter/joiner) due to Eastern European immigration, but he would never condone this.
If people don't like it, they can vote to change the system (as they have), not blame the people who make the effort to better their lives within the system.
If people don't like it, they can vote to change the system (as they have), not blame the people who make the effort to better their lives within the system.
Now the Leave campaign has come out and said there won't be any changes to immigration, I wonder where the "we voted to leave so you go home" brigade goes next.
I am tempted to think if that had been made clear, these idiots (and they are a minority) probably wouldn't have bothered to vote. Having them vote for nothing (in their eyes) may well turn them further off the democratic process.
I am tempted to think if that had been made clear, these idiots (and they are a minority) probably wouldn't have bothered to vote. Having them vote for nothing (in their eyes) may well turn them further off the democratic process.
mph1977 said:
vonuber said:
del mar said:
But for millions of people this is what the vote was about.
Look at some of the counties with large migrant populations. Boston has seen a 467% increase in its foreign born population. Their out vote was 75%, their town has changed beyond all recognition.
Yet we will sit here and call them racist and "little englander".
What, telling Polish people to fk off?Look at some of the counties with large migrant populations. Boston has seen a 467% increase in its foreign born population. Their out vote was 75%, their town has changed beyond all recognition.
Yet we will sit here and call them racist and "little englander".
those british who could leave did leave ? going to happen regardless with a settlement like Boston
aside from the public sector ( and then that;s only really local services and the DGH - county hall is in Lincoln, trust HQ for the hospitals is Lincoln - trust HQ for the mental health and community trusts were Sleaford or Lincoln ... there are only so many mangerial and technical roles to go around and even if a company was 'local' it makes much more sense for head office to be in Grantham, Newark, Stamford or Peterborough ( ECML and A1 links) ... same with higher paying roles or the retailers etc ...
port of Boston - small port, limited in the size of vessel it can take and st road and rial links compared to the humber ports or the Suffolk ports ...
food processing increasingly automated or 'line work' considered below the locals even though they can't read can't rite and can barely drive a tractor ...
also not goingto get the village wives and children out to help with harvesting like in the rose tinted past ...
I should know, I went to college and worked there for a bit.
underwhelmist said:
This is what's worrying me. My wife is Indian (originally a refugee from Amin's Uganda) and my kids are consequently mixed race. We're conscious that the "go back to where you came from" attitudes have now been given a sliver of validation and we're just waiting for them to emerge. Footage I've seen today from a far-right rabble (I refuse to dignify it by calling it a demonstration) outside a mosque in Birmingham, and other incidents, tell me that these attitudes have just become a bit more acceptable in the eyes of many.
I and many of my friends voted to leave the EU. I don't have a single racist amongst my friends and would not tolerate one as a friend. The neanderthal dheads spouting racist tripe today were here before the referendum, unfortunately they will still be here tomorrow however we have domestic laws to deal with them and sooner rather than later they will realise that voting out of the EU gives them no mandate to spout bile.
My apologies if this makes life uncomfortable for you and yours in the short term but please rest assured that this country will always welcome people who add to its success.
My vote to leave was due to the anti democratic swing of what was becoming a federal state of Europe.
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