"No more Polish vermin"
Discussion
So the argument goes that Poles are reducing wages down to a level for the lower 10% where they are down to their last £5 a month.
But these same Poles are then sending this spare £5 back to Poland which is boosting their economy but damaging our own.
Riiiight.
The fact is that a huge slice of any income in the UK (at the incomes being debated) is spent in the UK economy.
There still isn't a limit on the number of jobs in any economy no matter how hard some want to ram their heads in the sand and blame immigrants for their woes.
It has been quite eye opening this thread. Glad I'm not the only one to pick up on the post about stealing bags and dodging VED.
Vaud said:
We struggle to recruit in some areas.
Well skilled, well paid jobs (we pay upper 50% and upper quartile in pay for some, in the 50k-100k range), graduate and post graduate with experience. So no "cheap labour"
It's well-skilled Poles, Germans, Dutch, some Swedes/Norwegians and Americans applying and that tend to have the edge in education, experience, and to be honest in many cases, attitude. Plus they are multilingual.
Interestingly the main cohort of "British" roles that we are seeing some good interest in is in 16-18 age group.
So maybe the failing is more in post 16 education in the UK and an entitled generation?
I hear what you're saying but you are dealing with a different end of the job market than what I was alluding too, one company that springs to mind is Turners transport company based in my locality, big firm with lots of lorries, I was told it employs 99% eastern European labour, lorry driving and warehouse, the company has been going for over 100 years, it's only recent(last 20 years) it's gone with the eastern European work force, I've heard the lorry driver rates on this firm are terrible, cheaper labour = much more profit not the piss poor excuse of 'British workers are lazy' some are but a British man in his own country deserves a fair days money for a fair days work.Well skilled, well paid jobs (we pay upper 50% and upper quartile in pay for some, in the 50k-100k range), graduate and post graduate with experience. So no "cheap labour"
It's well-skilled Poles, Germans, Dutch, some Swedes/Norwegians and Americans applying and that tend to have the edge in education, experience, and to be honest in many cases, attitude. Plus they are multilingual.
Interestingly the main cohort of "British" roles that we are seeing some good interest in is in 16-18 age group.
So maybe the failing is more in post 16 education in the UK and an entitled generation?
I've heard these bosses on the radio saying they will go under due to brexit and the end of free movement. Makes you wonder how they survived prior to the eastern Europeans coming here on mass,
Raygun said:
I hear what you're saying but you are dealing with a different end of the job market than what I was alluding too, one company that springs to mind is Turners transport company based in my locality, big firm with lots of lorries, I was told it employs 99% eastern European labour, lorry driving and warehouse, the company has been going for over 100 years, it's only recent(last 20 years) it's gone with the eastern European work force, I've heard the lorry driver rates on this firm are terrible, cheaper labour = much more profit not the piss poor excuse of 'British workers are lazy' some are but a British man in his own country deserves a fair days money for a fair days work.
I've heard these bosses on the radio saying they will go under due to brexit and the end of free movement. Makes you wonder how they survived prior to the eastern Europeans coming here on mass,
There has been a worsening situation for recruiting HGV drivers in the UK since additional requirements were brought in a while back. It's not surprising that Eastern European drivers will fill the gaps given their hard work ethic, and fluency in English.I've heard these bosses on the radio saying they will go under due to brexit and the end of free movement. Makes you wonder how they survived prior to the eastern Europeans coming here on mass,
Robertj21a said:
There has been a worsening situation for recruiting HGV drivers in the UK since additional requirements were brought in a while back. It's not surprising that Eastern European drivers will fill the gaps given their hard work ethic, and fluency in English.
Once getting a HGV Class 1 cost a lot of money with the training and test but once passed opened up the chance to earn good money, Turners pay their lorry drivers the NMW, if they can get away with it you can't blame them but please can they refrain from saying the British are lazy because they won't drive a class 1 lorry for the NMW when we know it's a case of they're making a fortune out of cheap foreign labour.Raygun said:
Once getting a HGV Class 1 cost a lot of money with the training and test but once passed opened up the chance to earn good money, Turners pay their lorry drivers the NMW, if they can get away with it you can't blame them but please can they refrain from saying the British are lazy because they won't drive a class 1 lorry for the NMW when we know it's a case of they're making a fortune out of cheap foreign labour.
If British drivers don't apply for the jobs what else can they do ? You may not stay in business if you pay over the market rate. In some respects it's a good sign that our unemployment totals are now so low.Robertj21a said:
Raygun said:
Once getting a HGV Class 1 cost a lot of money with the training and test but once passed opened up the chance to earn good money, Turners pay their lorry drivers the NMW, if they can get away with it you can't blame them but please can they refrain from saying the British are lazy because they won't drive a class 1 lorry for the NMW when we know it's a case of they're making a fortune out of cheap foreign labour.
If British drivers don't apply for the jobs what else can they do ? You may not stay in business if you pay over the market rate. In some respects it's a good sign that our unemployment totals are now so low.battered said:
It doesn't matter! It's 3 tenths of sod-all. We may as well argue about the money down the back of my sofa (£1.31 last time I looked). It's not worth talking about, it's like me worrying about whether to buy normal olives at 75p a jar or the fancy ones for £1.29. Ooh, hang on though, that could add up, after all, I might go through a jar a month. Jeez.
As noted, I tend to agree.BUT...I don't have the actual figures. If someone could show me it was 7 figure sums then maybe I'm (we're) wrong.
Don't also forget that this is on top of other benefits to getting indigenous people working.
Robertj21a said:
Raygun said:
Once getting a HGV Class 1 cost a lot of money with the training and test but once passed opened up the chance to earn good money, Turners pay their lorry drivers the NMW, if they can get away with it you can't blame them but please can they refrain from saying the British are lazy because they won't drive a class 1 lorry for the NMW when we know it's a case of they're making a fortune out of cheap foreign labour.
If British drivers don't apply for the jobs what else can they do ? You may not stay in business if you pay over the market rate. In some respects it's a good sign that our unemployment totals are now so low.Murph7355 said:
battered said:
It doesn't matter! It's 3 tenths of sod-all. We may as well argue about the money down the back of my sofa (£1.31 last time I looked). It's not worth talking about, it's like me worrying about whether to buy normal olives at 75p a jar or the fancy ones for £1.29. Ooh, hang on though, that could add up, after all, I might go through a jar a month. Jeez.
As noted, I tend to agree.BUT...I don't have the actual figures. If someone could show me it was 7 figure sums then maybe I'm (we're) wrong.
Don't also forget that this is on top of other benefits to getting indigenous people working.
http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources...
The numbers aren't that small (potentially).
Other links exist but from more dubious sources like The Express
To avoid cries of my right wing bias:https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/dat...
Raygun said:
Vaud said:
We struggle to recruit in some areas.
Well skilled, well paid jobs (we pay upper 50% and upper quartile in pay for some, in the 50k-100k range), graduate and post graduate with experience. So no "cheap labour"
It's well-skilled Poles, Germans, Dutch, some Swedes/Norwegians and Americans applying and that tend to have the edge in education, experience, and to be honest in many cases, attitude. Plus they are multilingual.
Interestingly the main cohort of "British" roles that we are seeing some good interest in is in 16-18 age group.
So maybe the failing is more in post 16 education in the UK and an entitled generation?
I hear what you're saying but you are dealing with a different end of the job market than what I was alluding too, one company that springs to mind is Turners transport company based in my locality, big firm with lots of lorries, I was told it employs 99% eastern European labour, lorry driving and warehouse, the company has been going for over 100 years, it's only recent(last 20 years) it's gone with the eastern European work force, I've heard the lorry driver rates on this firm are terrible, cheaper labour = much more profit not the piss poor excuse of 'British workers are lazy' some are but a British man in his own country deserves a fair days money for a fair days work.Well skilled, well paid jobs (we pay upper 50% and upper quartile in pay for some, in the 50k-100k range), graduate and post graduate with experience. So no "cheap labour"
It's well-skilled Poles, Germans, Dutch, some Swedes/Norwegians and Americans applying and that tend to have the edge in education, experience, and to be honest in many cases, attitude. Plus they are multilingual.
Interestingly the main cohort of "British" roles that we are seeing some good interest in is in 16-18 age group.
So maybe the failing is more in post 16 education in the UK and an entitled generation?
I've heard these bosses on the radio saying they will go under due to brexit and the end of free movement. Makes you wonder how they survived prior to the eastern Europeans coming here on mass,
...or, just throwing it out there...sounds like a hell of a bit of entitlement...
If your job can be replaced by cheap imported labour willing to do it for less, maybe get yourself better educated/trained?
As the capitalists call it - grab those bootstraps...
///ajd said:
His last line is indeed spot on - and exactly why saying "all poles avoid VED and botch their cars" is a stupid thing an ignorant bigot might say.
I'm sure the poster didn't really mean it to come out like that
You utter dumb arse!I'm sure the poster didn't really mean it to come out like that
I said it in the first post. I reiterated it in the latter one.
"I'm not convinced, I can only speak from what I've seen..."
followed up with
"I don't ascribe that they are ALL breaking the law"
"Thinking back to the various Poles/EU Nationals I've met. (Sorry AJD cant talk for everyone)"
But you of course ignored that. And then posted
///ajd said:
I'd suggest you should look carefully at what you're defending, before you accuse others of being pathetic.
Its drips from every word.
But hey keep inventing phrases selective editing like the lefties are so prone to doing to suit your sIts drips from every word.
tty narrative. Do you ever wonder why no one likes you? Vaud said:
I rarely dip into NP&E due to posts like this.
Presumably because you alreasdy know everything and everyone who has seen different is lying or a racist? Vaud said:
As for the pub, I don't know of ANY of our circle of friends that go to the pub any more. Take a look at most towns and villages - pubs are dying and closing at record rates. People are staying home more, or eating out instead. The pub culture is dying.
I didn't say Pub. I said Bar! Pubs are dying I agree, bars are generally not. But hey apparently no one is socialising anymore. Fact is, people ARE. But you rarely see immigrant labour doing the same as British labour. So why is that?battered said:
Let's see now...
NEVER pay...
they steal
...bodge repair for £20
aren't paying VED
No way of checking insurance
need I go on? It doesn't need to be spelt out.
Are any of those facts incorrect for the people I'VE seen? Not YOU. ME. I appreciate you wont accept anything other than "English = sNEVER pay...
they steal
...bodge repair for £20
aren't paying VED
No way of checking insurance
need I go on? It doesn't need to be spelt out.
t Poles = Amazing" will you.PH XKR said:
The poles I mentioned also resent the new wave from their native country as there is a huge difference in attitude now (entitlement).
This is what I mentioned earlier. And SHOCK HORROR "qska" also said the same, and he appears to actually be POLISH!But hey ho, the lefty moral guardians here, wont accept it
battered said:
Who said it was OK, and since when has it been a race to the bottom? If we bring in Polish doctors and they cut the amount of tasty private work, or reduce the numbers of locum NHS doctors being paid £2000 or £3000 for a shift, is that a race to the bottom too.
We aren't talking about well trained high pay jobs though are we! Talk about low IQ manual labour type work. Then it's a race to the bottom!battered said:
No there isn't. It's elastic.
Jesus! If it's elastic then all that means is it VARIES. It will go UP and DOWN. It's not going upwards forever! Just because there's jobs now, what happens when the job market decreases and there's more labour than jobs?battered said:
Good rant. You forgot "they all live 8 to a room and post the money home". They don't, but that won't stop you.
OK, for the benefit of doubt since you and AJD are thick.1) NOT ALL. NEVER SAID ALL!
2) LOW IQ MANUAL JOBS. They do tend to house share. And YEP they do tend to send the money home! I don't blame them for doing it. But to just assume I'm lying is pretty arrogant no?
battered said:
No Brit bashing here, it's a fact. The immigrants are young and healthy, well motivated and ambitious enough to cross Europe, so OF COURSE they claim fewer benefits. Oh, and it's all in the ONS figures, so you may with to tell them their "facts" are made up Brit bashing.
If your option was 400 Euros a month of £1200 p/m would you stay there? I don't blame them for wanting to come. I blame the country for flooding the market and not putting OUR people first. I know you'll think that's a terrible thing to do. To promote Brits. It's why Trump won and Brexit happened. Natural citizen were made to feel inferior to anyone that came from another country or culture. That they should bow to the newcomers and forget THEIR heritage. Like the notion that only White Christians can be racist...ps Learn to use quotes properly!
jjlynn27 said:
Not sure what's the problem with sending £ home. I hear this all the time, and yet, can't see the problem with that.
(I know that you replied to a post, so not directed at you, just too lazy to edit the other post).
As mentioned earlier and completely misunderstood by you. Are you a Labour economic policy advisor? (I know that you replied to a post, so not directed at you, just too lazy to edit the other post).
IF EU migrants exchange our Pounds for Euros. And spend them in their country of origin. THAT DOESNT INCREASE DEMAND FOR PRODUCTS ON SALE IN THE UK. Hence it doesn't help our economy. Sainsburys/Superdrug whoever, don't see an increase in sales. So they don't need to hire more staff to account for that demand, cause it isn't there.
battered said:
I have a load of money in a bank, nobody is screaming at me because I should have spent it to boost the UK economy.
But chances are it's invested by that bank and making profit and paying TAX in the UK. And even if it's not. The overwhelming majority of it, is going to be spent in the UK at some point. Either by you. Or by whoever you leave it to when you die.battered said:
The sums of money are not worthy talking about, all this "Poles live 8 to a room and send money home" is bks, ... Most Poles get min wage, just how much slack do you think they could send home if they wanted to? It's not happening, in cases where money is sent home it's not worth talking about any more than if I give my Mum £20 for a dinner out.
So you are believe that Poles on minimum wage are all living in their individual 1 bed flats? No. Due to the fks, ... Most Poles get min wage, just how much slack do you think they could send home if they wanted to? It's not happening, in cases where money is sent home it's not worth talking about any more than if I give my Mum £20 for a dinner out.ked up way our housing market has gone, (interestingly since our borders were flung open to all from the EU. I wonder if that was related...) living on your own is virtually impossible on minimum wage. Especially in the South East. Yet this is where a lot of EU migrants end up. But when you pool your resources between 4 of you...PH XKR said:
st post. We've rented to a dhss white (ffs what a cock to bring colour in) lass. Two cracking kids. House is immaculate. Conversely next door to that house, at least 7 poles always changing about, house looks a dump.
His "great post" is just a post which my post balances out. You get good and bad irrespective of race. In another of our flats we had a Russian couple who were exemplary tenants
Yup. It's the entitlement attitude that exudes from the more recent newcomers to this country that are by far the worst for treating the place like st post. We've rented to a dhss white (ffs what a cock to bring colour in) lass. Two cracking kids. House is immaculate. Conversely next door to that house, at least 7 poles always changing about, house looks a dump.His "great post" is just a post which my post balances out. You get good and bad irrespective of race. In another of our flats we had a Russian couple who were exemplary tenants
t. Not that we don't have natural born brits who do this. But I don't think I could go and live in another country and treat the locals with the same level of contempt. I would imagine Id be quite grateful that they have allowed me to live with them.But hey, I'm racist according to AJD and battered.
Raygun said:
don'tbesilly said:
Any idea as to why the market rate is now lower than it was?
Summed up quite nicely.don'tbesilly said:
Any idea as to why the market rate is now lower than it was?
I would have thought that was quite obvious. There's a sufficient supply of hard-working Eastern Europeans who can use their skills from abroad to find similar work while they start a life in the UK. The drivers who used to do the HGV jobs have, probably, moved on to other work for which the Eastern Europeans are, at present, less suited. They're not taking 'British jobs' when our unemployment rates are so low.GroundEffect said:
Raygun said:
Vaud said:
We struggle to recruit in some areas.
Well skilled, well paid jobs (we pay upper 50% and upper quartile in pay for some, in the 50k-100k range), graduate and post graduate with experience. So no "cheap labour"
It's well-skilled Poles, Germans, Dutch, some Swedes/Norwegians and Americans applying and that tend to have the edge in education, experience, and to be honest in many cases, attitude. Plus they are multilingual.
Interestingly the main cohort of "British" roles that we are seeing some good interest in is in 16-18 age group.
So maybe the failing is more in post 16 education in the UK and an entitled generation?
I hear what you're saying but you are dealing with a different end of the job market than what I was alluding too, one company that springs to mind is Turners transport company based in my locality, big firm with lots of lorries, I was told it employs 99% eastern European labour, lorry driving and warehouse, the company has been going for over 100 years, it's only recent(last 20 years) it's gone with the eastern European work force, I've heard the lorry driver rates on this firm are terrible, cheaper labour = much more profit not the piss poor excuse of 'British workers are lazy' some are but a British man in his own country deserves a fair days money for a fair days work.Well skilled, well paid jobs (we pay upper 50% and upper quartile in pay for some, in the 50k-100k range), graduate and post graduate with experience. So no "cheap labour"
It's well-skilled Poles, Germans, Dutch, some Swedes/Norwegians and Americans applying and that tend to have the edge in education, experience, and to be honest in many cases, attitude. Plus they are multilingual.
Interestingly the main cohort of "British" roles that we are seeing some good interest in is in 16-18 age group.
So maybe the failing is more in post 16 education in the UK and an entitled generation?
I've heard these bosses on the radio saying they will go under due to brexit and the end of free movement. Makes you wonder how they survived prior to the eastern Europeans coming here on mass,
...or, just throwing it out there...sounds like a hell of a bit of entitlement...
If your job can be replaced by cheap imported labour willing to do it for less, maybe get yourself better educated/trained?
As the capitalists call it - grab those bootstraps...
Robertj21a said:
don'tbesilly said:
Any idea as to why the market rate is now lower than it was?
I would have thought that was quite obvious. There's a sufficient supply of hard-working Eastern Europeans who can use their skills from abroad to find similar work while they start a life in the UK. The drivers who used to do the HGV jobs have, probably, moved on to other work for which the Eastern Europeans are, at present, less suited. They're not taking 'British jobs' when our unemployment rates are so low.1: What's the relevance of saying "hard working" in reference to an EE hgv driver? I'm a British HGV driver so if I drive from Manchester to Glasgow and back and so does an EE driver how is he more hard working than me, which is clearly your inference by mentioning the term.
2: what "other work" do all these British drivers move on to from driving a truck? More so a role that is too taxing for the similarly qualified "hard working east European" drivers to carry out? Do you think we are all parked up at night studying law on the open university?
From someone with over 25 years experience in the industry here's a couple of examples that might help you....
The wages have slumped directly due to an influx of workers who are willing to work for MW, companies are replacing retiring drivers and there old contracts with much lower paying contracts filled by MW workers.
Competition, many of which was, and is, sometimes illegally run from European hauliers is driving companies to the wall, those contracts are snapped up by some of the larger companies who then re advertise the same jobs at a much lower rate.
If you were on £14 an hour and then found out your company had lost the contract to a bigger company but you can keep your job for £7.50 an hour what are you meant to do? How do you pay your bills etc?
The new big company doesn't care one bit as it will have a line of drivers waiting to fill your boots, those new drivers are mostly unlikely to be uk as who wants to spend over 3k on training to earn such a low wage, plus they usually asked to have 2 years experience which is a bit chicken and egg for a new pass in this country.
Stobarts are the masters of doing this, my understanding is they recently acquired an ADR contract and immediately re- advertised the jobs on their general haulage wage of ( I believe) £8.53/ hour, the drivers who used to be on the contract were on well over 40k salaried. How do you think Stobarts won the contract??
Thankfully there are still many jobs with very good wages, but for those who work in the industry we know who pays peanuts and why, you don't see anyone from my company regularly hitting bridges or rolling over on the roads, there's a reason companies like Stobarts and Warberers do.......
Sorry for the long post, but the impact of not just cheap drivers working in the U.K, but also exploited foreign drivers driving for foreign dodgy companies over here is massive......
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 20th February 23:13
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 20th February 23:14
Raygun said:
Once getting a HGV Class 1 cost a lot of money with the training and test but once passed opened up the chance to earn good money, Turners pay their lorry drivers the NMW, if they can get away with it you can't blame them but please can they refrain from saying the British are lazy because they won't drive a class 1 lorry for the NMW when we know it's a case of they're making a fortune out of cheap foreign labour.
Turners are an excellent example of a company that have grown massively over recent years. Only my opinion here but I think this is largely due to them benefiting from using foreign labour at all levels as pointed out above. I have been in and out of the Soham depot many,many times over the last 12 years and have certainly in this time seen a huge increase in the number of foreign labour employed.Has this contributed to the massive growth in Turners operations? I think it has probably helped.
When I first started going in there to deliver frozen goods, most of Turners own drivers, goods in office staff and warehouse staff appeared to be British.
I was last in there approx 3 years ago, and I would say as a reasonable'rough' guess, of the same people in those roles I would say 80% were Polish.
Perhaps that has/will in time change for Bulgarians and Romanians?
Would Turners have been able to grow in the same way they have, had they not gone down this route?
Another example of a large company benefiting from cheaper labour.
De Rooy Transport.
Back in about 2004 the guy I worked for had a good contract delivering tractors out of New Holland, in Basildon. He had 2-3 lorries in there every day doing local shuttle runs, then we'd have another 2-3 trucks a day doing some distance runs all over the UK direct to farms, or to dealers. Good little number.
The tractor plant then started using De Rooy alongside us, for 'extra' work as De Rooy put it. Within 6-8 months they had taken all the work on and my boss lost the contract he had. He just could not match or beat De Rooys rate for the jobs.
De Rooy were only using Polish drivers on this work, and a lot were good lads. I chatted with 1 of them 1 day who explained to me that De Rooys Dutch drivers wouldn't do the contract as it was underpaid, (to them) the trucks were lowly battered old sheds, and you had to be on the contract 6 weeks at a time in the UK before you got a week at home. He also told me that on the whole, the Dutch guy running the contract at New Holland for De Rooy was a nasty evil man, that spoke down to, and treated the Polish lads like s
t. He did I witnessed it with my own eyes. I asked the Polish guy why he and his Polish friends put up with such crappy conditions? He explained that although they were lower payed by De Rooy than the Dutch drivers, he was earning much more back then than he could ever earn working for a Polish company, and that was the reason he, and his friends put up with it.I couldn't knock him for that. A lot were just decent lads, trying to make a better life for themselves.
I guess thats why over the last 12 years or so we have seen so many foreign drivers, (mainly Polish) coming to work for UK transport companies and to be fair, if it's to make a better life for themselves, who can blame them.
This will probably change again though, as I wouldn't mind betting the next influx of foreign labour will mainly be from Bulgaria/Romania, and that change has already started to happen.
Just pay close attention to the number plates on the trucks pulling the RORO trailers out of ports like Purfleet, Felixstowe, Immingham etc. The majority years ago would have been British registered, that slowly changed to a mix of British/Polish registered trucks on this type of work, and I guess that will soon change again to become more predominately trucks registered from either Bulgaria/Romania with a mix of UK registered trucks. A fair few of the UK registered trucks will probably have non British drivers though.
It seems to be the same in the building game also. I've noticed a lot of late that most general labourers that loiter around builders merchants in the early mornings, looking for a days work are now more Bulgarian and Romanian in appearance than they are Polish.
Just a sign of the times I guess.
Robertj21a said:
They're not taking 'British jobs' when our unemployment rates are so low.
Ok so net migration to the UK from the EU is roughly up 2M (1million brits in the EU. 3M non Brits came over)Yet current unemployment figures is around 1.6 Million. (ONS) I would imagine that unemployment figures are people that CAN work rather than those who are retired or unable to work any job.
Is my basic maths so far off to assume that by the very definition. When EU labour migration is higher than our unemployment figures. Then it's not a good scenario
Rich_W said:
Robertj21a said:
They're not taking 'British jobs' when our unemployment rates are so low.
Ok so net migration to the UK from the EU is roughly up 2M (1million brits in the EU. 3M non Brits came over)Yet current unemployment figures is around 1.6 Million. (ONS) I would imagine that unemployment figures are people that CAN work rather than those who are retired or unable to work any job.
Is my basic maths so far off to assume that by the very definition. When EU labour migration is higher than our unemployment figures. Then it's not a good scenario
Funny how our problems are always due to people "not like us"
Murph7355 said:
Murph7355 said:
battered said:
It doesn't matter! It's 3 tenths of sod-all. We may as well argue about the money down the back of my sofa (£1.31 last time I looked). It's not worth talking about, it's like me worrying about whether to buy normal olives at 75p a jar or the fancy ones for £1.29. Ooh, hang on though, that could add up, after all, I might go through a jar a month. Jeez.
As noted, I tend to agree.BUT...I don't have the actual figures. If someone could show me it was 7 figure sums then maybe I'm (we're) wrong.
Don't also forget that this is on top of other benefits to getting indigenous people working.
http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources...
The numbers aren't that small (potentially).
Other links exist but from more dubious sources like The Express
To avoid cries of my right wing bias:https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/dat...
- Captial controls almost never work and are a sledgehammer to crack a nut
- The very ability of immigrants to remit from the UK is in and of itself and attraction - it helps us compete, globally, for the workers and talent the economy needs
- Attacking remittance could easily have negative, unintended consequences, even if it were desirable (and I'm not convinced it is)
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