"No more Polish vermin"

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Flip Martian

19,657 posts

190 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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FourWheelDrift said:
It happens in other countries as well, we aren't the only ones to have a few morons in our midst and they have always been around.

Romani ite domum.
The difference is, in the aftermath of the Leave vote, these morons now think they have half the country supporting their right to say what they kept quiet about just a week ago.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Flip Martian said:
The difference is, in the aftermath of the Leave vote, these morons now think they have half the country supporting their right to say what they kept quiet about just a week ago.
So it's down to the law of the land to show them the error of their ways, no? I would, but as a "signatory" to the social compact I'm not allowed to, and usually marching against them just leads to riots, which help no-one.

colonel c

7,890 posts

239 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Just as an aside. I asked my Polish work colleague, what he felt about the Brexit vote. He was dead chuffed as he won £50 betting on it.
Overall he's lived and worked here for many years and don't expect anything drastic will happen.

Flip Martian

19,657 posts

190 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Einion Yrth said:
So it's down to the law of the land to show them the error of their ways, no? I would, but as a "signatory" to the social compact I'm not allowed to, and usually marching against them just leads to riots, which help no-one.
Completely agree - I want police to take these seriously very quickly and for people to understand that kind of behaviour is socially unacceptable. It would be nice if people in the street actually showed disapproval for that kind of abuse too - but its easier for most people to find something interesting on the pavement as they walk by.

Certainly not advocating demos or anything. We already have mechanisms to deal with antisocial behaviour, I thought.

qska

449 posts

129 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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colonel c said:
Just as an aside. I asked my Polish work colleague, what he felt about the Brexit vote. He was dead chuffed as he won £50 betting on it.
Overall he's lived and worked here for many years and don't expect anything drastic will happen.
My Poles on Facebook are going nuts.

Not feeling welcome anymore.

Thinking of selling their houses and going "somewhere" (maybe Poland, maybe Germany or whatever).

Other guys (Canadians) I know feel offended, and take that vote as an "immigrants not welcome" vote.

Scientists lament the loss of EU funding for research...

But yeah, I hope it will calm down, and go back to normal asap.

I don't really thing anyone will have the nuts to actually DO IT. Imagine the blame they'd get for it!

burritoNinja

690 posts

100 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Einion Yrth said:
Friend of mine's wife is Romanian, gorgeous girl, speaks six languages and can practice accountancy in 3 countries. I quite envy him actually (but don't tell the wife).
People are people and aholes are aholes. Don't prejudge.

(As a balance to the above the landlord of a pub I frequented was stabbed by a Romanian(not the same one)).
Of course there are good Romanians. Though I did state the ones in our area who sadly are not very nice at all. I would never make a sweeping statement. My Wife and 2 kids are immigrants.

robbocop33

1,184 posts

107 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Rawwr said:
We can't fill our production lines with those good ol' English workers because they don't want to do it.
I hear this a lot,where are all these Uk workers that are offered jobs and don't want them?Isn't it because wages and jobs are less lucrative in their own country and 'any' wage/job over here is better?Hence their apparent 'willingness' to do them?

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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qska said:
My Poles on Facebook are going nuts.

Not feeling welcome anymore.

Thinking of selling their houses and going "somewhere" (maybe Poland, maybe Germany or whatever).
Most of my EU friends think this. They feel that they have been told to fk off, basically. Whether that was the intent of the vote or not, that's the message they heard - mainly because the campaign was so focused on immigration.
I think this outburst is a result of that.

Terminator X

15,064 posts

204 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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65m people in the UK so you will have some knobheads. Nowt more to it than that imho. Media saturation is seriously getting on my nerves though.

TX.

stichill99

1,043 posts

181 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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As long as you are better off on benefits sitting on your lazy arse , why work for a living? You will find our over generous system is to blame for the locals not wanting to work.

fido

16,796 posts

255 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Terminator X said:
65m people in the UK so you will have some knobheads. Nowt more to it than that imho. Media saturation is seriously getting on my nerves though.

TX.
+1. I can see on my feed all the same anti-Brexit photo stories - no doubt that feeds into the consciousness of people (EU or otherwise). As for hostility, it's definitely not one-way.

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Terminator X said:
65m people in the UK so you will have some knobheads. Nowt more to it than that imho. Media saturation is seriously getting on my nerves though.

TX.
What, because it is highlighting news? You want the news not to report news?

krisdelta

4,566 posts

201 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Terminator X said:
65m people in the UK so you will have some knobheads. Nowt more to it than that imho. Media saturation is seriously getting on my nerves though.

TX.
Exactly that - throw together any sample of people and you'll have some idiots, racists as well as a vast array of normal, decent people - a few idiots don't define the group or the vote - but happy moderate voters don't make good news or sell advertising.

The UK is far better off for the social diversity we have and I don't believe the referendum result changes that. There are no more, or less racists, bigots or knobs here today than there were last Thursday morning. It's not like 15m people are going to join"Britain first" tomorrow morning.

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Rawwr said:
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/reports-of-no-more...

What the hell is wrong with people?

I work in Huntingdona and around 90% of our production staff are Polish. They're all hard-working, polite, decent people who work, pay tax and contribute. What kind of sick individual posts things like that outside a primary school and through peoples' doors?
basedon experience elsewhere where production / warehouse ops are increasingly / majority accession state nationals it's the kind of people who think the accession state nationals 'tuk us jerbs' - no they didn't; you (native british person) made yourselves unemployable with your st attitudes , back chat to trainers, team leaders, supervisors and in some case to the GM ... ( funnily enough the British people of any colour who came and grafted are the ones being offered the trainer / team leader / allowance attracting machine op/ VNA driver roles ... )

fido

16,796 posts

255 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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vonuber said:
What, because it is highlighting news? You want the news not to report news?
Some lefty group like 38 degrees sticking some photos together so that their lefty / student / hipster fanbase can share on FB - that's not news - it's propaganda. It's the same lies and rubbish that we had before the referendum. If we did get the wrong result then these idiots are partly to blame.

souper

2,433 posts

211 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Wouldn't surprise me if some of these nasty "calling cards" were left by the Remain side and the blame been tarred on the Leavers as they've all been cast as racists et al.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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mph1977 said:
Rawwr said:
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/reports-of-no-more...

What the hell is wrong with people?

I work in Huntingdona and around 90% of our production staff are Polish. They're all hard-working, polite, decent people who work, pay tax and contribute. What kind of sick individual posts things like that outside a primary school and through peoples' doors?
basedon experience elsewhere where production / warehouse ops are increasingly / majority accession state nationals it's the kind of people who think the accession state nationals 'tuk us jerbs' - no they didn't; you (native british person) made yourselves unemployable with your st attitudes , back chat to trainers, team leaders, supervisors and in some case to the GM ... ( funnily enough the British people of any colour who came and grafted are the ones being offered the trainer / team leader / allowance attracting machine op/ VNA driver roles ... )
Exactly!

And rather than improve working conditions, management and pay that would improve those 'st attitudes' of the UK workforce, companies have realized they can get people in by the boat who are more than happy to be treated (and paid) like st because they are still quids in in comparison to what they'd be earning in their native country.

del mar

2,838 posts

199 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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But for millions of people this is what the vote was about.

Look at some of the counties with large migrant populations. Boston has seen a 467% increase in its foreign born population. Their out vote was 75%, their town has changed beyond all recognition.

Yet we will sit here and call them racist and "little englander".






mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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279 said:
mph1977 said:
Rawwr said:
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/reports-of-no-more...

What the hell is wrong with people?

I work in Huntingdona and around 90% of our production staff are Polish. They're all hard-working, polite, decent people who work, pay tax and contribute. What kind of sick individual posts things like that outside a primary school and through peoples' doors?
basedon experience elsewhere where production / warehouse ops are increasingly / majority accession state nationals it's the kind of people who think the accession state nationals 'tuk us jerbs' - no they didn't; you (native british person) made yourselves unemployable with your st attitudes , back chat to trainers, team leaders, supervisors and in some case to the GM ... ( funnily enough the British people of any colour who came and grafted are the ones being offered the trainer / team leader / allowance attracting machine op/ VNA driver roles ... )
Exactly!

And rather than improve working conditions, management and pay that would improve those 'st attitudes' of the UK workforce, companies have realized they can get people in by the boat who are more than happy to be treated (and paid) like st because they are still quids in in comparison to what they'd be earning in their native country.
I was working for a logistics / warehousing company 2-3 years ago

forthe warehouse - agency staff and those with less than a year in the firm ( counted from the first day you walked in whether agency or direct - so if you did 6 months on agency you got 6 months seniority if offered a substantive role) were paid in excess of the over 25 rate of minimum wage

after a year the rate went up to a level that is in excess of the current 'living wage' ...

if you were selcted for certain training and successfully completed it and the probationary period you got not quite a pound an hour more ...

team leaders were on 8 something an hour and generally promoted from within ...

picking rates were reasonable

scan /check and sort rates were reasonable and team leaders / supervisors were responsive to the level of work going through the scan stations

loading and unloading rates were reasonably easy to exceed to account for some of the more difficult loads

goods in processing rates / Qa inspection rates were eminently achievable

people got their breaks by and large on time

there weren;t petty warnings and fines for stupid things ...

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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del mar said:
But for millions of people this is what the vote was about.

Look at some of the counties with large migrant populations. Boston has seen a 467% increase in its foreign born population. Their out vote was 75%, their town has changed beyond all recognition.

Yet we will sit here and call them racist and "little englander".
What, telling Polish people to fk off?