"No more Polish vermin"

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Harji

2,199 posts

161 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Silvernoble883 said:
KimJongHealthy said:
Liokault said:
Maybe the sort of people who made up the 90% of workers before they were displaced by the polish.
Without contacts,

Especially when agencies bypass British workers and only advertise aboard.
There's a reason they do that, you should speak to the British management that decide it and not try to portion blame on the result of it.

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

98 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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My favourite bread



http://www.mapascotland.org/story-of-the-map/the-p...

'nuff said

Edited by Sylvaforever on Monday 27th June 14:05

Harji

2,199 posts

161 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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vonuber said:
Which is why my grandad stayed in the uk. He knew he would most likely be shot on his return.

Now, of course, he is vermin and should fk off - despite fighting both the ussr and nazis for 6 years.
Unfortunately people believe only what they want to hear, not the actual facts. They are forgetting it was a World War, forgetting that it was a divided Europe at the time, forgetting that Indians, Africans, Poles, Czechs, French, German Jews, Australians, Kiwi's fought the common enemies.

You are also reminding me of when I started an apprenticeship with Lucas many years ago , there were many Yugoslavs working there or living (Acton) there, they were a mixture of refugees and resistance fighters from both Nazi's and Communists. So easy to ignore and forget sadly. So easy downplay their contribution, sadly.

mandos_01

632 posts

101 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Just seen this on another forum

"Story just on bbc news there (no link on site sadly).

Sikh radiographer told by patient "shouldn't you be on plane to Pakistan, we voted you out"

This stuff makes my blood boil. If i was that radiographer, I'd tell the c*nt it appeared he had some sort of severe illness

TheGuru

744 posts

101 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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underwhelmist said:
This is what's worrying me. My wife is Indian (originally a refugee from Amin's Uganda) and my kids are consequently mixed race. We're conscious that the "go back to where you came from" attitudes have now been given a sliver of validation and we're just waiting for them to emerge. Footage I've seen today from a far-right rabble (I refuse to dignify it by calling it a demonstration) outside a mosque in Birmingham, and other incidents, tell me that these attitudes have just become a bit more acceptable in the eyes of many.
I don't think they have become more acceptable in general society, otherwise we wouldn't be having this thread or the outrage about these scum on places like Facebook.

The reality is though, these idiots are exactly how you describe - they are rabble, the lowest of the low. They will never get mainstream support and these incidents are just a blip. Additionally the media spotlight is actively looking for this sort of thing because they are desperately trying to discredit the Leave side.

I have an Asian wife with mixed children too, the referendum has never been about immigration for me, it's totally about the economic aspect and sovereignty.


TheGuru

744 posts

101 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Harji said:
Unfortunately people believe only what they want to hear, not the actual facts. They are forgetting it was a World War, forgetting that it was a divided Europe at the time, forgetting that Indians, Africans, Poles, Czechs, French, German Jews, Australians, Kiwi's fought the common enemies.

You are also reminding me of when I started an apprenticeship with Lucas many years ago , there were many Yugoslavs working there or living (Acton) there, they were a mixture of refugees and resistance fighters from both Nazi's and Communists. So easy to ignore and forget sadly. So easy downplay their contribution, sadly.
And is some cases gave more that the British in terms of lives lost per capita, leaving whole towns/villages decimated of a generation or two of males.

mwstewart

7,605 posts

188 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Flip Martian said:
Terminator X said:
People don't want to hear this, far better to report a handful of racist incidents link them to the Leave vote then let the hard of thinking join up the dots. You can even see it on here, posters worried about something that will likely never happen to them either before or after. Nuts.

TX.
You're right, maybe they were racists who voted for the Remain camp instead. Oh no, hang on, there wouldn't have been any.

It is CLEARLY NONSENSE to suggest all Leavers are racist. However, every racist in the land who can draw an X with a pencil will have voted to leave (assuming they could be bothered). Both sides were spouting nonsense before the vote, and sadly both sides still are.

In the meantime, there are little gobstes on the street, not just in the provinces or depressed areas "taken over by immigrants" but even in central London who now feel empowered to come out and say what they think. And the sooner the majority of the population shows them that's unacceptable the sooner we can get on with making the best of the decision and moving forward.
This contingent must be stopped and the opportunity taken to turn the situation post-Brexit into a positive. The rest though raises a deeper question for me: I think our approach is wrong and I don’t think we’re dealing with the real issue. Shouting "you're wrong" and automatically treating them as filth is not the right way. We have to accept that there those are out there who are less intelligent, and a large number of people who feel immigration has been forced on them, and/or a mixture of the two. At the moment integration on a real personal level is left undiscussed and instead it is simply expected that everyone is to get along, yet for a large percentage of the population the approach is simply going to be difficult or not work at all.

There has to be a better way - cultural education for example? Something along those lines or attempting to understand the fears of the people so we can make an effort to educate them. Of course there are idiots who are using Brexit as an excuse but I'm pretty confident they are a relative minority and most likely already affiliated with far right groups already. Think EDL attempting affiliation with VE day etc.

Silvernoble883

249 posts

96 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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LordHaveMurci said:
Silvernoble883 said:
And the Polish paratroopers who fought side by side with our boys,

Hardly doing it for our benefit were they? Not knocking them, just pointing out the obvious.

I believe 99.9% of British leave voters would agree with me.
Sadly I suspect you are very wrong there.
You really are a sad individual,

If you quote me please don't lie,

What I actually wrote was

Silvernoble883 said:
And the Polish paratroopers who fought side by side with our boys, yes I voted leave and I think immigration is out of control but these c.ards are disgusting and I believe 99.9% of British leave voters would agree with me.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

173 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Silvernoble883 said:
I think a lot of this is totally blown out of proportion by bitter remain voters.
Of course it is.rolleyes

oyster

12,596 posts

248 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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LittleEnus said:
I like the poles generally. I don't like the convicted rapists and murderers that made it over though. We have enough home-grown 'talent' for that.

If we had two islands of Brits and one island were immigrating to the country I was in that was already pushed to breaking point through over population, I wouldn't want them to come.

It is not race, it is common sense.
It's not at breaking point though is it.

From my home office window right now all I can see is trees, a railway line, a golf course and a couple of fields.

I'm inside the M25.

Silvernoble883

249 posts

96 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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oyster said:
LittleEnus said:
I like the poles generally. I don't like the convicted rapists and murderers that made it over though. We have enough home-grown 'talent' for that.

If we had two islands of Brits and one island were immigrating to the country I was in that was already pushed to breaking point through over population, I wouldn't want them to come.

It is not race, it is common sense.
It's not at breaking point though is it.

From my home office window right now all I can see is trees, a railway line, a golf course and a couple of fields.

I'm inside the M25.
Disagree and I don't want a city like Wolverhampton being built every year to accommodate more immigrants,

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

173 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Silvernoble883 said:
oyster said:
LittleEnus said:
I like the poles generally. I don't like the convicted rapists and murderers that made it over though. We have enough home-grown 'talent' for that.

If we had two islands of Brits and one island were immigrating to the country I was in that was already pushed to breaking point through over population, I wouldn't want them to come.

It is not race, it is common sense.
It's not at breaking point though is it.

From my home office window right now all I can see is trees, a railway line, a golf course and a couple of fields.

I'm inside the M25.
Disagree and I don't want a city like Wolverhampton being built every year to accommodate more immigrants,
I don't want a city like Wolverhampton built for any reason, it's a sthole.

LittleEnus

3,226 posts

174 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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oyster said:
It's not at breaking point though is it.

From my home office window right now all I can see is trees, a railway line, a golf course and a couple of fields.

I'm inside the M25.
You're alright Jack are you? Good for you but there are millions that are pissed off with it all.

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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There has to be a better way - cultural education for example?
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Yes, what a good idea. Now remind me, what was the reaction on here when a group of primary school children were sent on a day trip to a mosque?

Ah yes, I remember, everyone was universally supportive and said that it was a great idea. No racist bigots here.

Cultural education is a great thing but see what happens when you offer it.

I thought there would be a lurch to the right if we voted out, the only bit where I was wrong was that I didn't think that it would happen so quickly.

bitchstewie

51,212 posts

210 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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mwstewart said:
There has to be a better way - cultural education for example? Something along those lines or attempting to understand the fears of the people so we can make an effort to educate them. Of course there are idiots who are using Brexit as an excuse but I'm pretty confident they are a relative minority and most likely already affiliated with far right groups already. Think EDL attempting affiliation with VE day etc.
As mentioned there was a thread on here about kids going to a mosque for a few hours and the reaction was ridiculously over the top for what was basically a school day-trip.

The people doing it are just scum plain and simple and I would hope they have the full weight of the law thrown at them and are made an example of.

mwstewart

7,605 posts

188 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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battered said:
Yes, what a good idea. Now remind me, what was the reaction on here when a group of primary school children were sent on a day trip to a mosque?

Ah yes, I remember, everyone was universally supportive and said that it was a great idea. No racist bigots here.

Cultural education is a great thing but see what happens when you offer it.

I thought there would be a lurch to the right if we voted out, the only bit where I was wrong was that I didn't think that it would happen so quickly.
So you beleive raisim cannot be solved?

ShaunTheSheep

951 posts

155 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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LittleEnus said:
You're alright Jack are you? Good for you but there are millions that are pissed off with it all.
What exactly are they pissed off with though? How dare you come over here and pay taxes or help prop up the pensions catastrofk...

Robertj21a

16,477 posts

105 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Silvernoble883 said:
Disagree and I don't want a city like Wolverhampton being built every year to accommodate more immigrants,
Are you volunteering to work in the hospitals, care homes, shops, taxis, bus driving etc etc - no, I thought not. We need to curb the number of immigrants, particularly those with rights to travel freely through the EU, but I'm guessing it's actually those brown faces you don't like.

Silvernoble883

249 posts

96 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Harji said:
Silvernoble883 said:
KimJongHealthy said:
Liokault said:
Maybe the sort of people who made up the 90% of workers before they were displaced by the polish.
Without contacts,

Especially when agencies bypass British workers and only advertise aboard.
There's a reason they do that, you should speak to the British management that decide it and not try to portion blame on the result of it.
Yes because most are zero hour jobs with no benefits and no job security and that's why companies use agencies, sports direct springs to mind. It's just a fight to the bottom which isn't good for anyone apart for company and agency.

Silvernoble883

249 posts

96 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Robertj21a said:
Silvernoble883 said:
Disagree and I don't want a city like Wolverhampton being built every year to accommodate more immigrants,
Are you volunteering to work in the hospitals, care homes, shops, taxis, bus driving etc etc - no, I thought not. We need to curb the number of immigrants, particularly those with rights to travel freely through the EU, but I'm guessing it's actually those brown faces you don't like.
The race card has been played, no surprise really it's the only way some can try and win debates.