"No more Polish vermin"

[Gandahar]

don'tbesilly said:

Silvernoble883 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Here in West London we have a large Polish and the Polish war Memorial. We didn't complain then did we, when a previous generation of Polish young men came to Britain to fight with the RAF and help defeat the Nazis.

And the Polish paratroopers who fought side by side with our boys, yes I voted leave and I think immigration is out of control but these cards are disgusting and I believe 99.9% of British leave voters would agree with me.

I certainly do, no problem with Polish workers at all, a large number of my colleagues are Polish.

Agree, we have close ties with Poland, now and historically, and they should be welcome with open arms to work here, as should other countries.

[Mike_Mac]

Einion Yrth said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Here in West London we have a large Polish and the Polish war Memorial. We didn't complain then did we, when a previous generation of Polish young men came to Britain to fight with the RAF and help defeat the Nazis.

It was probably a better option that living in Nazi occupied Poland, though.

Your point being what? That they only came and risked their lives because they had no other choice? I would find that incredibly insulting if I were a Polish veteran, or the descendant of one.

The men from across all the occupied European nations that came to Britain to fight the Nazis did so because they wanted to fight what Nazism represented. They had plenty of other options they could have taken. They didn't.

[Einion Yrth]

Mike_Mac said:

Einion Yrth said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Here in West London we have a large Polish and the Polish war Memorial. We didn't complain then did we, when a previous generation of Polish young men came to Britain to fight with the RAF and help defeat the Nazis.

It was probably a better option that living in Nazi occupied Poland, though.

Your point being what? That they only came and risked their lives because they had no other choice? I would find that incredibly insulting if I were a Polish veteran, or the descendant of one.

The men from across all the occupied European nations that came to Britain to fight the Nazis did so because they wanted to fight what Nazism represented. They had plenty of other options they could have taken. They didn't.

They did yes, they had good reason to do so having seen first hand what the Nazis were capable of, and yes they were brave and honorable men.

Were they any more brave and honorable than the Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Indians and other nationalities who also came to give aid, and who arguably had less immediate cause to do so?

[don'tbesilly]

Einion Yrth said:

Mike_Mac said:

Einion Yrth said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Here in West London we have a large Polish and the Polish war Memorial. We didn't complain then did we, when a previous generation of Polish young men came to Britain to fight with the RAF and help defeat the Nazis.

It was probably a better option that living in Nazi occupied Poland, though.

Your point being what? That they only came and risked their lives because they had no other choice? I would find that incredibly insulting if I were a Polish veteran, or the descendant of one.

The men from across all the occupied European nations that came to Britain to fight the Nazis did so because they wanted to fight what Nazism represented. They had plenty of other options they could have taken. They didn't.

They did yes, they had good reason to do so having seen first hand what the Nazis were capable of, and yes they were brave and honorable men.

Were they any more brave and honorable than the Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Indians and other nationalities who also came to give aid, and who arguably had less immediate cause to do so?

None of the countries above were occupied by the Nazis.
None of the countries above with perhaps the exception of one have to put up with the hatred that's being discussed in the thread.

I'm not really sure what point it is that you are trying to make?

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Einion Yrth said:

Mike_Mac said:

Einion Yrth said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Here in West London we have a large Polish and the Polish war Memorial. We didn't complain then did we, when a previous generation of Polish young men came to Britain to fight with the RAF and help defeat the Nazis.

It was probably a better option that living in Nazi occupied Poland, though.

Your point being what? That they only came and risked their lives because they had no other choice? I would find that incredibly insulting if I were a Polish veteran, or the descendant of one.

The men from across all the occupied European nations that came to Britain to fight the Nazis did so because they wanted to fight what Nazism represented. They had plenty of other options they could have taken. They didn't.

They did yes, they had good reason to do so having seen first hand what the Nazis were capable of, and yes they were brave and honorable men.

Were they any more brave and honorable than the Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Indians and other nationalities who also came to give aid, and who arguably had less immediate cause to do so?

Wtf is this, bravery Top Trumps????

Get a fking grip.

[Mrr T]

Liokault said:

Maybe the sort of people who made up the 90% of workers before they were displaced by the polish.

If that was the case why do unemployment figures keep falling?

[vonuber]

I'm not surprised this is happening given the tupe of campaign we've just had.

[davepoth]

Anyone who sends a note like this is vermin themselves.

HOWEVER

It is important to recognise that there is an immigration issue that has NOTHING to do with the nationality of the people who have come here. In my view we would have a lot of the same concerns if it had been a mass internal migration of British people.

I can think of one modern-day analogue. Back in 2014 a big oil find in North Dakota caused an oil rush. It only lasted a year or so, but while it was happening the comparisons are interesting. Nearly everyone who moved to North Dakota would have been an American.

http://www.npr.org/2014/01/29/264912750/on-the-pla...

NPR said:

This frozen frontier boasts the nation's lowest unemployment rate. "Help wanted" signs are everywhere: in the oil fields, the hotels and restaurants that support them, in construction, hospitals — you name it.

But the boom is also causing severe growing pains — and turning many rural towns into ones that longtime residents may no longer recognize.

NPR said:

"My little sister and I used to be able to walk all over town. Our parents didn't worry," she says. "[Now] I have a daughter of my own, and my husband and I won't let her outside by herself anymore."

NPR said:

Then there's the crime. Watford City's police force has grown fivefold in recent years — there are now 10 officers sharing four desks in the cramped 28-feet-square station. But most officers are usually out on patrol or calls.

[Jonesy23]

Has anyone actually been identified as being behind these notes?

If not then you have no idea who printed them or why. Lots of people have agendas and negative propaganda from a pro-remain is just as possible as some racist local. After all they did go to the effort of a Polish translation which your average BNPer wouldn't bother with...

[Don]

Racism is always petty and nasty. I hope the cops find whomsoever is responsible and make them pay...

[nicanary]

The "leave" brigade may have shot themselves in the feet. The whole legal process for termination of the UK's membership will take up to 2 years, and in that time any resident of the EU can continue to come here to work (as far as I'm aware). THere will be a lot of applications in the next few months, mark my words - once here, we can do nothing about it. THis "Little England" vote is going to INCREASE the number of Eastern Europeans.

PS I'm a remain man....

[davepoth]

nicanary said:

The "leave" brigade may have shot themselves in the feet. The whole legal process for termination of the UK's membership will take up to 2 years, and in that time any resident of the EU can continue to come here to work (as far as I'm aware). THere will be a lot of applications in the next few months, mark my words - once here, we can do nothing about it. THis "Little England" vote is going to INCREASE the number of Eastern Europeans.

PS I'm a remain man....

That Last line was somewhat superfluous, don't you think?

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Mrr T said:

Liokault said:

Maybe the sort of people who made up the 90% of workers before they were displaced by the polish.

If that was the case why do unemployment figures keep falling?

If you're British, you have a job with a British company, in Britain, and you lose your job to a recent Eastern European arrival who speaks no English......then you must've have been fking useless at it in the first place.

[nicanary]

davepoth said:

nicanary said:

The "leave" brigade may have shot themselves in the feet. The whole legal process for termination of the UK's membership will take up to 2 years, and in that time any resident of the EU can continue to come here to work (as far as I'm aware). THere will be a lot of applications in the next few months, mark my words - once here, we can do nothing about it. THis "Little England" vote is going to INCREASE the number of Eastern Europeans.

PS I'm a remain man....

That Last line was somewhat superfluous, don't you think?

I thought the tone of my post may be misread as another xenophobe.

[SidewaysSi]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Mrr T said:

Liokault said:

Maybe the sort of people who made up the 90% of workers before they were displaced by the polish.

If that was the case why do unemployment figures keep falling?

If you're British, you have a job with a British company, in Britain, and you lose your job to a recent Eastern European arrival who speaks no English......then you must've have been fking useless at it in the first place.

Very true. Some people always need someone to blame but themselves. As has been said elsewhere, these people will be economically hurt far more over the coming years.

I do hope London and Scotland manage to broker a deal with the EU and leave the rest of little Britain to it.

[Rawwr]

Evolved said:

Rawwr said:

They weren't displaced. We can't fill our production lines with those good ol' English workers because they don't want to do it. These jobs are all available to the English but applications are few and far between. If we didn't employ hundreds of Polish workers, our output would be on the floor.

Nonsense, if the wages offered are less of an insult, the applications will come in. I've seen the conditions some foreign workers will endure as they see it as a short term fix.

It's not nonsense and you're in absolutely no position to comment on the situation I'm speaking of. In this situation, albeit a very specific situation of which I have absolute knowledge, English people do not apply for the jobs which are paid above minimum wage in what I consider to be an excellent working environment.

[Rawwr]

Jonesy23 said:

Has anyone actually been identified as being behind these notes?

If not then you have no idea who printed them or why. Lots of people have agendas and negative propaganda from a pro-remain is just as possible as some racist local. After all they did go to the effort of a Polish translation which your average BNPer wouldn't bother with...

I'm sorry, what exactly is the implication here?

[hairyben]

Evolved said:

Rawwr said:

They weren't displaced. We can't fill our production lines with those good ol' English workers because they don't want to do it. These jobs are all available to the English but applications are few and far between. If we didn't employ hundreds of Polish workers, our output would be on the floor.

Nonsense, if the wages offered are less of an insult, the applications will come in. I've seen the conditions some foreign workers will endure as they see it as a short term fix.

One of the great hypocrasies of the eu is the "protecting workers rights" issue - in my industry (building) I go on a few predominatly polish sites; toilets are considered unecessary "you go in garden", Ive been asked to work 20' high off homemade batten/nailed stepladders, I've seen someone break his leg after telling the gangmaster it would happen if he didnt put down boarding and refuse to let me drive him to hospital. Its like the clocks been would back 100 years,now I'm smart enough not to blame the individuals for wanting work/money on any terms but its socially regressive and undermining the standards WE have fought for. Lesser men than me will blame the easy option.

[rscott]

hairyben said:

Evolved said:

Rawwr said:

They weren't displaced. We can't fill our production lines with those good ol' English workers because they don't want to do it. These jobs are all available to the English but applications are few and far between. If we didn't employ hundreds of Polish workers, our output would be on the floor.

Nonsense, if the wages offered are less of an insult, the applications will come in. I've seen the conditions some foreign workers will endure as they see it as a short term fix.

One of the great hypocrasies of the eu is the "protecting workers rights" issue - in my industry (building) I go on a few predominatly polish sites; toilets are considered unecessary "you go in garden", Ive been asked to work 20' high off homemade batten/nailed stepladders, I've seen someone break his leg after telling the gangmaster it would happen if he didnt put down boarding and refuse to let me drive him to hospital. Its like the clocks been would back 100 years,now I'm smart enough not to blame the individuals for wanting work/money on any terms but its socially regressive and undermining the standards WE have fought for. Lesser men than me will blame the easy option.

Presumably you reported these sites to the appropriate authority? What did they do about it?

[vonuber]

hairyben said:

One of the great hypocrasies of the eu is the "protecting workers rights" issue - in my industry (building) I go on a few predominatly polish sites; toilets are considered unecessary "you go in garden", Ive been asked to work 20' high off homemade batten/nailed stepladders, I've seen someone break his leg after telling the gangmaster it would happen if he didnt put down boarding and refuse to let me drive him to hospital. Its like the clocks been would back 100 years,now I'm smart enough not to blame the individuals for wanting work/money on any terms but its socially regressive and undermining the standards WE have fought for. Lesser men than me will blame the easy option.

And not once did you call the HSE and get it shut down? That's really worrying if you are in the trade.