"No more Polish vermin"
Discussion
berlintaxi said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
Colonial said:
Friend of mine just witnessed another case of racist abuse.
Tram in Manchester. Ch. 4 news have the footage. Loyal patriot hurling abuse at man who looked foreign. Twlling him he was going to get deported etc.
The results seem to have given legitimacy to some very unpleasant views.
It wasn't the usual scrote mouthing off. Absolute certainty that they would be gotten rid of. Very disturbing.
The press and youtube is full of such incidents pre-dating Brexit.Tram in Manchester. Ch. 4 news have the footage. Loyal patriot hurling abuse at man who looked foreign. Twlling him he was going to get deported etc.
The results seem to have given legitimacy to some very unpleasant views.
It wasn't the usual scrote mouthing off. Absolute certainty that they would be gotten rid of. Very disturbing.
Remain/Left agitators are probably behind a lot of the things that have supposedly happened like the 'vermin' cards.
The "victory" in the referendum has given the closet racists that unfortunately live in this country the chance to step out into the daylight, together with brain dead morons who will jump on an opportunity to be offensive.
Flash in the pan, now can we get on with it?
berlintaxi said:
Of course they are dear,.
The "victory" in the referendum has given the closet racists that unfortunately live in this country the chance to step out into the daylight, together with brain dead morons who will jump on an opportunity to be offensive.
There is an element of that yes, but really the few racist incidents have been done by the lowest scrotes in society, rather than sinister organized racist groups.The "victory" in the referendum has given the closet racists that unfortunately live in this country the chance to step out into the daylight, together with brain dead morons who will jump on an opportunity to be offensive.
And lets not forget that racism and intolerance has been on the rise for a while now in the UK and right across Europe.
bhstewie said:
I do find it very weird, bordering on disturbing that you have scum doing stuff like this and people seem to be seriously suggesting that actually it's "remainers" doing it to try to discredit "leavers".
I haven't seen much of that, but a heightened focus on any event by the media is obvious. 279 said:
Dare I suggest that these factories/production lines are not getting many reliable UK workers for these jobs because the jobs themselves are in fact a little bit st? ... I don't know about you guys, but I work to better myself and my family, not for the sake of working.
The job market is now opened up to millions of people who may consider £6.70PH to actually be a decent wage
the min wage compares well to min wage elsewhere in EU and USA. It may be "a little bit st" but that's the nature of min wage jobs. They appeal to the young and unskilled. If you want to "better yourself and your family" then get some skills and get a better job. If however you want to show up and do nothing until you are told do, then £6.70 is what you're worth. Most people gain skills over life, and earn more as a result. If that's too much trouble then stay on min wage.The job market is now opened up to millions of people who may consider £6.70PH to actually be a decent wage
berlintaxi said:
279 said:
Dare I suggest that these factories/production lines are not getting many reliable UK workers for these jobs because the jobs themselves are in fact a little bit st? Poor pay, poor working conditions and limited career progression much more than the allure of a 'Team Leader' position on £8PH would struggle to motivate most in this country as it is unlikely to see much improvement of their current quality of life and/or finances. I don't know about you guys, but I work to better myself and my family, not for the sake of working.
The job market is now opened up to millions of people who may consider £6.70PH to actually be a decent wage in comparison to what would have been on offer at home and are more than happy to do that job with a smile/out performing UK workers. And if these guys are willing to do this in the same conditions and for the same pay, where is the incentive for employers to improve pay and conditions to the point where these jobs might start attracting UK nationals?
And by the way, I've got no issue with immigration, but its got to be for specific skills/occupations that the country cannot reasonably fill. Its why I get annoyed when people tag on something along the times of 'But XXX number of Doctors and Nurses are EU migrants' to subtract from the argument against free movement - Professions such as Doctors and Nurses are exactly the sort of people that we want and need as a society. Guys to work in the sports direct warehouse? Not so much IMHO.
From the indigenous population who do you expect to do the st jobs? The uneducated lower working class? If so stop paying them so much in benefits that it is more attractive to sit on your arse and work, you refer to trying to better yourself and family yet resent it when migrants try to do the same.The job market is now opened up to millions of people who may consider £6.70PH to actually be a decent wage in comparison to what would have been on offer at home and are more than happy to do that job with a smile/out performing UK workers. And if these guys are willing to do this in the same conditions and for the same pay, where is the incentive for employers to improve pay and conditions to the point where these jobs might start attracting UK nationals?
And by the way, I've got no issue with immigration, but its got to be for specific skills/occupations that the country cannot reasonably fill. Its why I get annoyed when people tag on something along the times of 'But XXX number of Doctors and Nurses are EU migrants' to subtract from the argument against free movement - Professions such as Doctors and Nurses are exactly the sort of people that we want and need as a society. Guys to work in the sports direct warehouse? Not so much IMHO.
Mr GrimNasty said:
The press and youtube is full of such incidents pre-dating Brexit.
Remain/Left agitators are probably behind a lot of the things that have supposedly happened like the 'vermin' cards.
Oh yes. I suppose that it's left-wingers that have fire-bombed a halal butchers in Walsall this afternoon. Just to stir it up.Remain/Left agitators are probably behind a lot of the things that have supposedly happened like the 'vermin' cards.
Edit - yesterday at about 1720, say the BBC. Police are seeing it as "potentially racially motivated". Well, there is just a scant possibility.
Edited by battered on Tuesday 28th June 15:12
bhstewie said:
I do find it very weird, bordering on disturbing that you have scum doing stuff like this and people seem to be seriously suggesting that actually it's "remainers" doing it to try to discredit "leavers".
It's as disturbing as the Sandy Hook was a government operation brigade. Just so detached from any form of reality.
Silvernoble883 said:
This is what my Polish friends were saying last night, it really pisses them off when immigrants come over here just to milk the system, a change to the benefit system for all must be first on the cards.
Agree totally, we need to stop paying people to sit on their arse and pop out sprogs. No money = no booze = no fags,I doubt it would take long to get people back into work if benefits were in the form of food vouchers.berlintaxi said:
From the indigenous population who do you expect to do the st jobs? The uneducated lower working class? If so stop paying them so much in benefits that it is more attractive to sit on your arse and work, you refer to trying to better yourself and family yet resent it when migrants try to do the same.
In a round about way, we agree - People will work when it is attractive for them to work. Currently the difference between the quality of life on low/semi skilled work and state assistance is marginal in many cases, and some choose not to work, and anyone who says they do it just because its 'comfortable' clearly has not tired it for very long.
I don't harbor resentment or racism towards anyone, including economic migrants; They are playing by the rules that have been set out and fair play to them, it doesn't mean that I'm not going to question the policy. The net benefits of migrants from incomparable economies filling low skilled positions, especially given the extra strain on public services on top of the unavoidable wage depression.
Could you imagine what the world would be like with free movement? No visas, work permits or entry requires, if you can get to where you're going, you can live there and work there, regardless of skills or what position. It'd be Anarchy. Allow an indefinite stay in US/Canada/OZ in exchange for working in a factory for a bit and tens of thousands of Brits would be gone by the end of the year, and that is as them being a sidestep in terms of economic prospects. Now imagine their minimum wage was twice our national average...
stitched said:
Agree totally, we need to stop paying people to sit on their arse and pop out sprogs. No money = no booze = no fags,I doubt it would take long to get people back into work if benefits were in the form of food vouchers.
But what about their right to a gigantic flatscreen TV?stitched said:
Silvernoble883 said:
This is what my Polish friends were saying last night, it really pisses them off when immigrants come over here just to milk the system, a change to the benefit system for all must be first on the cards.
Agree totally, we need to stop paying people to sit on their arse and pop out sprogs. No money = no booze = no fags,I doubt it would take long to get people back into work if benefits were in the form of food vouchers.Silvernoble883 said:
Was speaking to some of my Polish friends ( all great chaps who work full time in the local chicken factory ) at the gym last night and they said if they had been given the chance to vote they would have voted leave, they say because far too many immigrants now and Brussels is a st heap.
How did they respond to your preference, that in future, they would be not be allowed in, unless they achieved an at present unknown point score?Mr GrimNasty said:
Colonial said:
Friend of mine just witnessed another case of racist abuse.
Tram in Manchester. Ch. 4 news have the footage. Loyal patriot hurling abuse at man who looked foreign. Twlling him he was going to get deported etc.
The results seem to have given legitimacy to some very unpleasant views.
It wasn't the usual scrote mouthing off. Absolute certainty that they would be gotten rid of. Very disturbing.
The press and youtube is full of such incidents pre-dating Brexit.Tram in Manchester. Ch. 4 news have the footage. Loyal patriot hurling abuse at man who looked foreign. Twlling him he was going to get deported etc.
The results seem to have given legitimacy to some very unpleasant views.
It wasn't the usual scrote mouthing off. Absolute certainty that they would be gotten rid of. Very disturbing.
Remain/Left agitators are probably behind a lot of the things that have supposedly happened like the 'vermin' cards.
bhstewie said:
I do find it very weird, bordering on disturbing that you have scum doing stuff like this and people seem to be seriously suggesting that actually it's "remainers" doing it to try to discredit "leavers".
Goes to show the intellectual abilities of those on the other side.TheGuru said:
bhstewie said:
I do find it very weird, bordering on disturbing that you have scum doing stuff like this and people seem to be seriously suggesting that actually it's "remainers" doing it to try to discredit "leavers".
I haven't seen much of that, but a heightened focus on any event by the media is obvious. BOR said:
Silvernoble883 said:
Was speaking to some of my Polish friends ( all great chaps who work full time in the local chicken factory ) at the gym last night and they said if they had been given the chance to vote they would have voted leave, they say because far too many immigrants now and Brussels is a st heap.
How did they respond to your preference, that in future, they would be not be allowed in, unless they achieved an at present unknown point score?BOR said:
Silvernoble883 said:
Was speaking to some of my Polish friends ( all great chaps who work full time in the local chicken factory ) at the gym last night and they said if they had been given the chance to vote they would have voted leave, they say because far too many immigrants now and Brussels is a st heap.
How did they respond to your preference, that in future, they would be not be allowed in, unless they achieved an at present unknown point score?This will mean we can choose the, necessary, hard working ambitious people who have chosen to throw in their lot with us.
It's unfortunate that we won't be able to shift the shiftless unemployed aholes who currently drain our economy. We will however have the mandate to deal with them.
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