"No more Polish vermin"
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Its not confined to a few notes about Poles in one place. There are incidents being reported on social media all over, even in central London, of people being told they're "going home" or told to "go home, we voted to get rid of you" and suchlike. Anyone with a foreign accent, name or dark skin seems to now be a target. Even those born here.
Closet racists seem to now think they have 17 million+ supporters and it's safe and normal to say exactly what they think
I hope people in the street hearing these things won't just "walk on by, not my problem" but that seems to be what many usually do.
Closet racists seem to now think they have 17 million+ supporters and it's safe and normal to say exactly what they think
I hope people in the street hearing these things won't just "walk on by, not my problem" but that seems to be what many usually do.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Here in West London we have a large Polish and the Polish war Memorial. We didn't complain then did we, when a previous generation of Polish young men came to Britain to fight with the RAF and help defeat the Nazis.
Quite right and the memorials are well deserved. They were brave men and certainly did there bit, and not just in the RAF.Having said that, we were all at war and there were plenty of young Brits and others who did their bit and more to help liberate other Countries, including Poland, from the Nazis. We were all in it together then weren't we? And maybe that's why we won and maybe that's why we are in turmoil now.
Regardless, the subject of this thread is reprehensible and idiotic.
REALIST123 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Here in West London we have a large Polish and the Polish war Memorial. We didn't complain then did we, when a previous generation of Polish young men came to Britain to fight with the RAF and help defeat the Nazis.
Quite right and the memorials are well deserved. They were brave men and certainly did there bit, and not just in the RAF.Having said that, we were all at war and there were plenty of young Brits and others who did their bit and more to help liberate other Countries, including Poland, from the Nazis. We were all in it together then weren't we? And maybe that's why we won and maybe that's why we are in turmoil now.
Regardless, the subject of this thread is reprehensible and idiotic.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Here in West London we have a large Polish and the Polish war Memorial. We didn't complain then did we, when a previous generation of Polish young men came to Britain to fight with the RAF and help defeat the Nazis.
Pity British gratitude didn't last a bit longer than the end of hostilities: http://cosmopolitanreview.com/303-squadron/This could well be a butthurt remain voter trying to propagate the idea that leave voters were all racist scumbags.
It would hardly be beyond the realms of possibility that somebody may do something like this with a view of trying to derail the leave process, or to try and give ammunition for a 2nd referendum and possibly affect the result if one was held.
Just look at this article
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
It would hardly be beyond the realms of possibility that somebody may do something like this with a view of trying to derail the leave process, or to try and give ammunition for a 2nd referendum and possibly affect the result if one was held.
Just look at this article
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
After every election there will be some people who want to take the opportunity to be nasty to anyone they associate, rightly or wrongly, with the other side.
I've been asking around over the last couple of days and attitudes vary enormously.
Some people are anti-immigrant
Some people are "Little Englanders"
Some people wanted sovereignty
Some people just wanted a trade agreement
Some people can't understand why the EU expects to follow its rules but ignores them on the continent
Some people think they didn't support us through BSE (the French had it to, but they banned our beef while theirs was waved through on the nod)
And so it goes on. Lots of reasons.
I had lots of reasons for voting out and the country of origin of someone I may or may not meet walking down the street was not on my list. Nor was it on my neighbours list. Or my colleagues list. Or my other colleagues list, or the list of the bloke at the social club, or, well nearly everyone actually.
Please stop calling everyone who voted out a racist, it's becoming an in-joke at work.
I've been asking around over the last couple of days and attitudes vary enormously.
Some people are anti-immigrant
Some people are "Little Englanders"
Some people wanted sovereignty
Some people just wanted a trade agreement
Some people can't understand why the EU expects to follow its rules but ignores them on the continent
Some people think they didn't support us through BSE (the French had it to, but they banned our beef while theirs was waved through on the nod)
And so it goes on. Lots of reasons.
I had lots of reasons for voting out and the country of origin of someone I may or may not meet walking down the street was not on my list. Nor was it on my neighbours list. Or my colleagues list. Or my other colleagues list, or the list of the bloke at the social club, or, well nearly everyone actually.
Please stop calling everyone who voted out a racist, it's becoming an in-joke at work.
hairyben said:
Dont think they have any real authority /power on small private sites
Of course they do. Any employer is affected by it.I'm always stopping on my bike taking photos etc of site infringements and notifying the council or hse (it's one of my responsibilities as a chartered engineer).
It's amazimg how quickly people find a hard hat or start doing things properly when you do that. People know what they should be doing they are just too lazy. Ignoring it is worse.
Moonhawk said:
This could well be a butthurt remain voter trying to propagate the idea that leave voters were all racist scumbags.
It would hardly be beyond the realms of possibility that somebody may do something like this with a view of trying to derail the leave process, or to try and give ammunition for a 2nd referendum and possibly affect the result if one was held.
Just look at this article
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
It's much more likely that it's just scumbag racists (or Xenophobes as I guess Polish isn't a race) rather than someone trying a cunning bit of political manipulation.It would hardly be beyond the realms of possibility that somebody may do something like this with a view of trying to derail the leave process, or to try and give ammunition for a 2nd referendum and possibly affect the result if one was held.
Just look at this article
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
The link you posted is because people from places like North Korea and Vatican City seem to have decided we should have a second referendum.
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hstewie on Sunday 26th June 13:29
hstewie on Sunday 26th June 13:29Einion Yrth said:
They did yes, they had good reason to do so having seen first hand what the Nazis were capable of, and yes they were brave and honorable men.
Were they any more brave and honorable than the Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Indians and other nationalities who also came to give aid, and who arguably had less immediate cause to do so?
Jesus.Were they any more brave and honorable than the Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Indians and other nationalities who also came to give aid, and who arguably had less immediate cause to do so?
So we can't call them brave because other people were brave, too?
Flip Martian said:
Its not confined to a few notes about Poles in one place. There are incidents being reported on social media all over, even in central London, of people being told they're "going home" or told to "go home, we voted to get rid of you" and suchlike. Anyone with a foreign accent, name or dark skin seems to now be a target. Even those born here.
Closet racists seem to now think they have 17 million+ supporters and it's safe and normal to say exactly what they think
I hope people in the street hearing these things won't just "walk on by, not my problem" but that seems to be what many usually do.
Don't waste your breath.Closet racists seem to now think they have 17 million+ supporters and it's safe and normal to say exactly what they think
I hope people in the street hearing these things won't just "walk on by, not my problem" but that seems to be what many usually do.
I've already posted a number of links regarding reports of hate crime post referendum and they were ignored.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: It's much more likely that it's just scumbag racists (or Xenophobes as I guess Polish isn't a race) rather than someone trying a cunning bit of political manipulation.
Much more likely - or much more likely to believe, depending on what your own views are. The two things are very different 
Whoever it is.......hopefully they will be caught and dealt with.
An exit from the political entity that is the EU is not a licence to act in this manner regardless of the reason.
Edited by Moonhawk on Sunday 26th June 13:32
Jonesy23 said:
Has anyone actually been identified as being behind these notes?
If not then you have no idea who printed them or why. Lots of people have agendas and negative propaganda from a pro-remain is just as possible as some racist local. After all they did go to the effort of a Polish translation which your average BNPer wouldn't bother with...
Even Britain First have managed to use Google Translate before!If not then you have no idea who printed them or why. Lots of people have agendas and negative propaganda from a pro-remain is just as possible as some racist local. After all they did go to the effort of a Polish translation which your average BNPer wouldn't bother with...
vonuber said:
Of course they do. Any employer is affected by it.
I'm always stopping on my bike taking photos etc of site infringements and notifying the council or hse (it's one of my responsibilities as a chartered engineer).
It's amazimg how quickly people find a hard hat or start doing things properly when you do that. People know what they should be doing they are just too lazy. Ignoring it is worse.
Employer? These blokes are all £40/day cash in hand mate. And if they dont like anything theres a load more outside wickes waiting for their place.I'm always stopping on my bike taking photos etc of site infringements and notifying the council or hse (it's one of my responsibilities as a chartered engineer).
It's amazimg how quickly people find a hard hat or start doing things properly when you do that. People know what they should be doing they are just too lazy. Ignoring it is worse.
My point is that your rules are being completely undermined becasue of willingness to do any work- and its not only building. Minimum wage too much for a cleaning firm? Easy, give your zero hours workers a 2 hour @ min wage target for a job. If it takes them 3 or 4 tough s
t. If they dont like it someone else will take it.TwigtheWonderkid said:
Mrr T said:
Liokault said:
Maybe the sort of people who made up the 90% of workers before they were displaced by the polish.
If that was the case why do unemployment figures keep falling?king useless at it in the first place.Migrants are able to come over here, arrange a house/flat/bed share with like-minded individuals to keep living costs to a minimum, get any job paying the minimum wage job and still manage to clear TWICE what the average earnings were back in Poland. Lots of guys I speak to do this and treat it as a working holiday, sometimes funneling the money back to eastern Europe for house purchases/renovation.
A UK born native with a similar skill set are likely to have more commitments and aren't able/willing to reasonably compete with the low wages that an economic EU migrate would be very happy to work for, and hence 'They took our jobs!"
They could move to eastern Europe as a working holiday I suppose, but with average wages under £600, who the f
k would want to?hairyben said:
Employer? These blokes are all £40/day cash in hand mate. And if they dont like anything theres a load more outside wickes waiting for their place.
My point is that your rules are being completely undermined becasue of willingness to do any work- and its not only building. Minimum wage too much for a cleaning firm? Easy, give your zero hours workers a 2 hour @ min wage target for a job. If it takes them 3 or 4 tough st. If they dont like it someone else will take it.
That's not the migrants fault, that's the british employer deliberately choosing to do that to increase their own profit, or others not willing to pay the true cost. If these people actually gave a sMy point is that your rules are being completely undermined becasue of willingness to do any work- and its not only building. Minimum wage too much for a cleaning firm? Easy, give your zero hours workers a 2 hour @ min wage target for a job. If it takes them 3 or 4 tough s
t. If they dont like it someone else will take it.t about the uk they wouldn't do it and pay a decent wage.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff