"No more Polish vermin"
Discussion
wc98 said:
B'stard Child said:
This thread is getting interesting I see we are back to racist slurs and xenophobic accusations
I had 273 reasons to leave - I could have had 1473 reasons but I just used one for reason to leave number 28
1200 Business leaders backed Remain - Guardian Link
Before the referendum I did a little bit of research on the 1200 who recommended that I vote to remain
It's from memory because I didn't keep the data but their average net worth was in excess of 5 million GBP
A considerable number were not actually UK born (fully expect ///whathisface to call me out as xenophobic for that one but it's relevant in that many weren't entitled to vote in the referendum)
So 1200 Business Leaders told me "Smaller businesses and employers would be particularly vulnerable to any economic shock as a result of a leave vote"
Would they be affected personally? - kinda doubted that would be the case.
I didn't believe the "Economic Armageddon" argument but clearly those 1200 business leaders did and their concerns were much like slashers new found concerns for the poor or the immigrants already here.
So why ignore such a weight of opinion - because simply they clearly had prospered in the environment with the UK in the EU - unlike the people at the bottom of the food chain who had seen wages depressed and living stds fall.
To borrow some lyrics
LEONARD COHEN "Everybody Knows"
Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died
Boat for me was the EU
Captain was Cameron
The Country was broken
June 24th was the start of hope for me
think i have enjoyed reading everyone of your posts on this topic , if you had been leading the leave team, the leave vote would have been far bigger I had 273 reasons to leave - I could have had 1473 reasons but I just used one for reason to leave number 28
1200 Business leaders backed Remain - Guardian Link
Before the referendum I did a little bit of research on the 1200 who recommended that I vote to remain
It's from memory because I didn't keep the data but their average net worth was in excess of 5 million GBP
A considerable number were not actually UK born (fully expect ///whathisface to call me out as xenophobic for that one but it's relevant in that many weren't entitled to vote in the referendum)
So 1200 Business Leaders told me "Smaller businesses and employers would be particularly vulnerable to any economic shock as a result of a leave vote"
Would they be affected personally? - kinda doubted that would be the case.
I didn't believe the "Economic Armageddon" argument but clearly those 1200 business leaders did and their concerns were much like slashers new found concerns for the poor or the immigrants already here.
So why ignore such a weight of opinion - because simply they clearly had prospered in the environment with the UK in the EU - unlike the people at the bottom of the food chain who had seen wages depressed and living stds fall.
To borrow some lyrics
LEONARD COHEN "Everybody Knows"
Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died
Boat for me was the EU
Captain was Cameron
The Country was broken
June 24th was the start of hope for me
I keep getting told (by those that supported remain) that all the reasons to leave have been debunked - just waiting for a single one of mine to be torn apart....... Obviously I fully expected number 273 (which became number 8 when I posted it here) to be torn apart but even that one survived
B'stard Child said:
wc98 said:
B'stard Child said:
This thread is getting interesting I see we are back to racist slurs and xenophobic accusations
I had 273 reasons to leave - I could have had 1473 reasons but I just used one for reason to leave number 28
1200 Business leaders backed Remain - Guardian Link
Before the referendum I did a little bit of research on the 1200 who recommended that I vote to remain
It's from memory because I didn't keep the data but their average net worth was in excess of 5 million GBP
A considerable number were not actually UK born (fully expect ///whathisface to call me out as xenophobic for that one but it's relevant in that many weren't entitled to vote in the referendum)
So 1200 Business Leaders told me "Smaller businesses and employers would be particularly vulnerable to any economic shock as a result of a leave vote"
Would they be affected personally? - kinda doubted that would be the case.
I didn't believe the "Economic Armageddon" argument but clearly those 1200 business leaders did and their concerns were much like slashers new found concerns for the poor or the immigrants already here.
So why ignore such a weight of opinion - because simply they clearly had prospered in the environment with the UK in the EU - unlike the people at the bottom of the food chain who had seen wages depressed and living stds fall.
To borrow some lyrics
LEONARD COHEN "Everybody Knows"
Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died
Boat for me was the EU
Captain was Cameron
The Country was broken
June 24th was the start of hope for me
think i have enjoyed reading everyone of your posts on this topic , if you had been leading the leave team, the leave vote would have been far bigger I had 273 reasons to leave - I could have had 1473 reasons but I just used one for reason to leave number 28
1200 Business leaders backed Remain - Guardian Link
Before the referendum I did a little bit of research on the 1200 who recommended that I vote to remain
It's from memory because I didn't keep the data but their average net worth was in excess of 5 million GBP
A considerable number were not actually UK born (fully expect ///whathisface to call me out as xenophobic for that one but it's relevant in that many weren't entitled to vote in the referendum)
So 1200 Business Leaders told me "Smaller businesses and employers would be particularly vulnerable to any economic shock as a result of a leave vote"
Would they be affected personally? - kinda doubted that would be the case.
I didn't believe the "Economic Armageddon" argument but clearly those 1200 business leaders did and their concerns were much like slashers new found concerns for the poor or the immigrants already here.
So why ignore such a weight of opinion - because simply they clearly had prospered in the environment with the UK in the EU - unlike the people at the bottom of the food chain who had seen wages depressed and living stds fall.
To borrow some lyrics
LEONARD COHEN "Everybody Knows"
Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died
Boat for me was the EU
Captain was Cameron
The Country was broken
June 24th was the start of hope for me
I keep getting told (by those that supported remain) that all the reasons to leave have been debunked - just waiting for a single one of mine to be torn apart....... Obviously I fully expected number 273 (which became number 8 when I posted it here) to be torn apart but even that one survived
B'stard Child said:
No indeed we haven't left yet or even started to leave but in just over two more years I won't have to suffer the Eurovision any more - like I said I have hope
They let Australia join in. And Israel. And myriad others - you have no chance, so resort to the off button or the pub if your Mrs insists Murph7355 said:
B'stard Child said:
No indeed we haven't left yet or even started to leave but in just over two more years I won't have to suffer the Eurovision any more - like I said I have hope
They let Australia join in. And Israel. And myriad others - you have no chance, so resort to the off button or the pub if your Mrs insists B'stard Child said:
Murph7355 said:
B'stard Child said:
No indeed we haven't left yet or even started to leave but in just over two more years I won't have to suffer the Eurovision any more - like I said I have hope
They let Australia join in. And Israel. And myriad others - you have no chance, so resort to the off button or the pub if your Mrs insists Eric Mc said:
B'stard Child said:
Murph7355 said:
B'stard Child said:
No indeed we haven't left yet or even started to leave but in just over two more years I won't have to suffer the Eurovision any more - like I said I have hope
They let Australia join in. And Israel. And myriad others - you have no chance, so resort to the off button or the pub if your Mrs insists 
I did say at the time of posting it was my room 101
don'tbesilly said:
Theresa May has indicated that she wants to agree the rights of the 3.3 million migrants living in the EU, but the EU are stopping the negotiations for the reason above.
One of the problems I have with team leave is they really do not understand how the EU is constituted. So when you say the EU will not negotiate. What do you mean? Any EU exit agreement will be with 29 different parties some with more power some with less. No one at the moment has any authority to negotiate on behalf of the EU.
Mrr T said:
One of the problems I have with team leave is they really do not understand how the EU is constituted.
So when you say the EU will not negotiate. What do you mean? Any EU exit agreement will be with 29 different parties some with more power some with less. No one at the moment has any authority to negotiate on behalf of the EU.
Quite, and this is why being part of the EU when external trade deals is being negotiated is so disadvantageous. So when you say the EU will not negotiate. What do you mean? Any EU exit agreement will be with 29 different parties some with more power some with less. No one at the moment has any authority to negotiate on behalf of the EU.
CaptainSlow said:
Mrr T said:
One of the problems I have with team leave is they really do not understand how the EU is constituted.
So when you say the EU will not negotiate. What do you mean? Any EU exit agreement will be with 29 different parties some with more power some with less. No one at the moment has any authority to negotiate on behalf of the EU.
Quite, and this is why being part of the EU when external trade deals is being negotiated is so disadvantageous. So when you say the EU will not negotiate. What do you mean? Any EU exit agreement will be with 29 different parties some with more power some with less. No one at the moment has any authority to negotiate on behalf of the EU.
B'stard Child said:
alfie2244 said:
wc98 said:
///ajd said:
Did you vote to make their right to remain in the UK uncertain?
no, i voted to leave an unaccountable and corrupt political construct that no longer serves any practical purpose and is run by delusional f
kwits that think they can tell the people of europe how to live their lives and run their countries.i can assure you that if there are any moves to ask people that live and work here to leave i will be in front of you at the protests ,letter writing and mp haranguing .
k off pronto because I think we will be wasting our time.We already have people here who have the right to stay and work here but no access to public funds. I have a mate, born in India but a NZ citizen, who has worked in the UK for 10 yrs + and he is in this position. I suspect that we could do something similar for EU ciizens post Brexit if we wanted to, I'm sure that if we did then we would find that Brits in EU needing assistance or medical care would find themselves getting nothing.
A bit late to this thread but my two best Polish friends have both said they would have Voted Leave if they could have. We discussed the topic over sushi dinner this evening as it as on the news today. No doubt there has been malice from supporters (for want of a better description) in both camps, but it just shows that there are idiots in both camps.
Since the vote I've spoken to many people about why they voted and none of those who voted out mentioned race. The vast majority of reasons were based on business or personal dealings with the EU including regulations, others not following regulations, cost of extra regulations and corruption. Some mentioned lack of immigration control but none wanted to stop it completely.
I've spoken to salesman who make better deals in Africa and India than in the EU due to red tape.
That's two salesman in two unrelated companies and different products.
I've spoken to truck drivers who watched while the French torched their rigs.
I've spoken to several small business owners who think that the red tape has gone way too far.
Yes it does cost them money and it does affect their customers, twice I was the customer that asked for something they couldn't provide due to the EU.
I've spoken to two people who regretted their vote, they both wished they'd voted out.
The left have got away with silencing any debate or dissent by shouting "racist" for too long. They haven't noticed that nobody cares anymore about these accusations because everyone has now realised that lots of other people share their view and that virtually nobody actually bases their position on racism.
I've spoken to salesman who make better deals in Africa and India than in the EU due to red tape.
That's two salesman in two unrelated companies and different products.
I've spoken to truck drivers who watched while the French torched their rigs.
I've spoken to several small business owners who think that the red tape has gone way too far.
Yes it does cost them money and it does affect their customers, twice I was the customer that asked for something they couldn't provide due to the EU.
I've spoken to two people who regretted their vote, they both wished they'd voted out.
The left have got away with silencing any debate or dissent by shouting "racist" for too long. They haven't noticed that nobody cares anymore about these accusations because everyone has now realised that lots of other people share their view and that virtually nobody actually bases their position on racism.
Hayek said:
B'stard Child said:
alfie2244 said:
wc98 said:
///ajd said:
Did you vote to make their right to remain in the UK uncertain?
no, i voted to leave an unaccountable and corrupt political construct that no longer serves any practical purpose and is run by delusional fkwits that think they can tell the people of europe how to live their lives and run their countries.i can assure you that if there are any moves to ask people that live and work here to leave i will be in front of you at the protests ,letter writing and mp haranguing .
k off pronto because I think we will be wasting our time.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff