"No more Polish vermin"
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A summary of some of the abuse received since the result - http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/26/explosion-post-... .
We all know it's only a tiny minority saying this - but it's a very, very vocal one which needs addressing before it escalates.
We all know it's only a tiny minority saying this - but it's a very, very vocal one which needs addressing before it escalates.
vonuber said:
Given I (and the other half) both have polish surnames it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
Farage and co have sown the seeds by banging on about immigration. Fun times ahead.
Same here ,me my parents and two brothers,and their family and my now wife all have the same polish surname.Farage and co have sown the seeds by banging on about immigration. Fun times ahead.
Mrr T said:
LP
As do I.hairyben said:
Generally very poor english, low skilled/intelligence probably still more $$ than they can earn back home. And like said living conditions - I can take you to places whre they live in sheds and garages drinking £2/litre chemical laden gut rot moonshine - shanty towns in essense - I dont condone the spite behind the article but i can see the fear that drives it. A lot of the people who cant relate probably have nice office jobs and this just hasnt affected their bubble. Yet.
Unlike you I know a lot of EU immigrants and none of them are like that.Your point?
We live in times of manipulative propaganda - just as most of the narrative letters in the papers and callers to radio shows are planted by vested interests, many of these things are faked or perpetrated by people trying to discredit others.
Take every report with a large pinch of salt, before you burst a blood vessel with rage.
Take every report with a large pinch of salt, before you burst a blood vessel with rage.
Mr GrimNasty said:
We live in times of manipulative propaganda - just as most of the narrative letters in the papers and callers to radio shows are planted by vested interests, many of these things are faked or perpetrated by people trying to discredit others.
Take every report with a large pinch of salt, before you burst a blood vessel with rage.
Very well said imo.Take every report with a large pinch of salt, before you burst a blood vessel with rage.
There are massive feelings of division but we all still have much more in common with each other than these fraudsters that populate the idiot lantern 24/7.
Einion Yrth said:
Silvernoble883 said:
And the Polish paratroopers who fought side by side with our boys, yes I voted leave and I think immigration is out of control but these cards are disgusting and I believe 99.9% of British leave voters would agree with me.
Indeed, no excuse for it at all, track down the culprits and make an example.Whoever is responsible for this should be traced and have the bloody book thrown at them and make sure they're fking big books.
This kind of behaviour is indefensible and needs to be stamped out asap.
rscott said:
A summary of some of the abuse received since the result - http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/26/explosion-post-... .
We all know it's only a tiny minority saying this - but it's a very, very vocal one which needs addressing before it escalates.
You can add to this my friend's mother, who had a brick through her window because she had a remain poster up.We all know it's only a tiny minority saying this - but it's a very, very vocal one which needs addressing before it escalates.
Mothersruin said:
This is making me very angry.
It's angers me that these scumbags have no idea what a superb and brave ally the Polish have been to the UK in past times (and one that we've treated abominably afterwards), let alone their hard work now.
I've got a soon to be daughter-in-law who is half Polish and runs her own successful business. Her grandfather and grandmother escaped to England during the war and he fought in the Army. My father was put in charge of a unit of Poles during the war and he was enamored by them. Some great stories were brought to mind by this thread. Fair enough, they fought for their own reasons, but then that goes for most people in the forces. It's angers me that these scumbags have no idea what a superb and brave ally the Polish have been to the UK in past times (and one that we've treated abominably afterwards), let alone their hard work now.
I was brought up in an area of London where 'No Irish' was placed in the windows of some pubs and various accommodation types.
I don't think we should place too much emphasis on this. Most people willingly accept people from other countries. Those that hate bring problems on themselves I think.
Einion Yrth said:
They did yes, they had good reason to do so having seen first hand what the Nazis were capable of, and yes they were brave and honorable men.
Were they any more brave and honorable than the Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Indians and other nationalities who also came to give aid, and who arguably had less immediate cause to do so?
That's an odd thing to say. We have seen no posters saying that those who came from the various God's Own Countries should be sent home. There are no posters that suggest Indians and those from other nations should go home. So why should they be mentioned in the context of offensive racist posters regarding Poles?Were they any more brave and honorable than the Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Indians and other nationalities who also came to give aid, and who arguably had less immediate cause to do so?
I'm Polish and I'd vote to LEAVE, looking at what happens in the Starfleet Command. Planned direct taxation, complete failure of foreign policy, the political union on the cards - NO, thanks.
The EU failures are wide and deep, so they deserve a kick up the butt to ease off a bit. Stick to the economy!
Just let me apply for the Permanent Residency first... ;-)
Background - came here in 2004, have 2 kids, both born in the UK. Working as an IT contractor in Oxon/Berks/London.
I don't get this as "F the Poles" vote, not in the slightest.
But still, I'm looking down when walking on the street now, having no idea what will ACTUALLY happen. It's the uncertainty that's the worst.
Most Brits I met are generally welcoming and warm, aside from our neighbours - but some of them treat everyone with the same disdain as us, so they're not exactly racists - just douchebags :-) And there's no law against that ;-)
There are of course racists as well - but try moving to Poland as a foreigner (preferrably brown), to see REAL RACISM.
UK is much more laid back....
If only the bloody weather improved with the Brexit....
Coming back to the topic - the PL translation was bad, un-gramatic, so that'd be a Google Translate jobby.
The EU failures are wide and deep, so they deserve a kick up the butt to ease off a bit. Stick to the economy!
Just let me apply for the Permanent Residency first... ;-)
Background - came here in 2004, have 2 kids, both born in the UK. Working as an IT contractor in Oxon/Berks/London.
I don't get this as "F the Poles" vote, not in the slightest.
But still, I'm looking down when walking on the street now, having no idea what will ACTUALLY happen. It's the uncertainty that's the worst.
Most Brits I met are generally welcoming and warm, aside from our neighbours - but some of them treat everyone with the same disdain as us, so they're not exactly racists - just douchebags :-) And there's no law against that ;-)
There are of course racists as well - but try moving to Poland as a foreigner (preferrably brown), to see REAL RACISM.
UK is much more laid back....
If only the bloody weather improved with the Brexit....
Coming back to the topic - the PL translation was bad, un-gramatic, so that'd be a Google Translate jobby.
Edited by qska on Sunday 26th June 19:05
qska said:
I'm Polish and I'd vote to LEAVE, looking at what happens in the Starfleet Command.
The EU failures are wide and deep, so they deserve a kick up the butt.
Just let me apply for the Permanent Residency first... ;-)
Background - came here in 2004, have 2 kids, both born in the UK. Working as an IT contractor in Oxon/Berks/London.
I don't get this as "F the Poles" vote, not in the slightest.
But still, I'm looking down on the street now, having no idea what will ACTUALLY happen. That's the uncertainty that's the worst.
Most Brits I met are generally welcoming and warm, aside from our neighbours - but some of them treat everyone with the same disdain as us, so they're not exactly racists - just douchebags :-) And there's no law against that ;-)
There are of course racists as well - but try moving to Poland as a foreigner (preferrably brown), to see REAL RACISM.
UK is much more laid back....
If only the bloody weather improved with the Brexit....
Coming back to the topic - the PL translation was bad, un-gramatic, so that'd be a Google Translate jobby.
A belated welcome to you.The EU failures are wide and deep, so they deserve a kick up the butt.
Just let me apply for the Permanent Residency first... ;-)
Background - came here in 2004, have 2 kids, both born in the UK. Working as an IT contractor in Oxon/Berks/London.
I don't get this as "F the Poles" vote, not in the slightest.
But still, I'm looking down on the street now, having no idea what will ACTUALLY happen. That's the uncertainty that's the worst.
Most Brits I met are generally welcoming and warm, aside from our neighbours - but some of them treat everyone with the same disdain as us, so they're not exactly racists - just douchebags :-) And there's no law against that ;-)
There are of course racists as well - but try moving to Poland as a foreigner (preferrably brown), to see REAL RACISM.
UK is much more laid back....
If only the bloody weather improved with the Brexit....
Coming back to the topic - the PL translation was bad, un-gramatic, so that'd be a Google Translate jobby.
Don't worry, most of the bad weather was booked to arrive overhead Glastonbury in the past few days so we should have it easy for a while...
All this racist guff needs to stop, hopefully with prosecutions and public humiliation. I vote tarring and feathering!
All this racist guff needs to stop, hopefully with prosecutions and public humiliation. I vote tarring and feathering!
Edited by Oilchange on Sunday 26th June 19:10
There are a lot of Polish kids at my kids primary school. My little girls best friend is Polish and her parents are lovely people. Very kind. The rest of the Polish families that I know at the school are also very nice and damn hard workers. I feel bad for them that there are a few other parents who are racist towards them. I can't however say the same for the Romanians in the area. They have destroyed houses literally, chuck used nappies in the street, tons of them in one house, they climb into skips and very nasty to local residents.
It's not just one incident, but a lot:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/26/ra...
Including the Polish centre in Hammersmith. I'm sure all these were Remain supporters as well.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/26/ra...
Including the Polish centre in Hammersmith. I'm sure all these were Remain supporters as well.
burritoNinja said:
There are a lot of Polish kids at my kids primary school. My little girls best friend is Polish and her parents are lovely people. Very kind. The rest of the Polish families that I know at the school are also very nice and damn hard workers. I feel bad for them that there are a few other parents who are racist towards them. I can't however say the same for the Romanians in the area. They have destroyed houses literally, chuck used nappies in the street, tons of them in one house, they climb into skips and very nasty to local residents.
Friend of mine's wife is Romanian, gorgeous girl, speaks six languages and can practice accountancy in 3 countries. I quite envy him actually (but don't tell the wife).People are people and aholes are aholes. Don't prejudge.
(As a balance to the above the landlord of a pub I frequented was stabbed by a Romanian(not the same one)).
TwigtheWonderkid said:
If you're British, you have a job with a British company, in Britain, and you lose your job to a recent Eastern European arrival who speaks no English......then you must've have been fking useless at it in the first place.
But it is not as simple as that. If the new guy will work for less money, because he is dossing in with 10 others living like a tramp, so he can save half the moneny he earns, send it home to Poland and allow his family there to be twice as well off as they would otherwise be, then i can see there being animosity. Why should a guy who has worked in the UK, whos forefathers helped build this country into the powerhouse it is, and maybe lived in less than ideal circumstances as a kid, who has bought a house, done it up, but has a mortgage, lose his livelihood or have his wages depressed just because some guy will live like a tramp and send all his hard earned back to be spent outside our local economy, in Poland or Romania or wherever? Countries which through the EU, we are all funding anyway.
This may seem an "extreme" example, but I know two guys, both from Poland, real great hardworking guys who are doing this. Good lads as they are, i can see why it would grate with some people.
BTW, the workshy fops and lazy aholes who have no intention of working and will live of benefits, who may chose to blame it all on "immigrants" from wherever they originate, i have absolutely no time for and neither does any decent person.
BUt immigration from less develooped and cheaper nations has depressed UK wages, of course, that can benfit some businesses... and their shareholders...! BUt that can grate with the workers too
FourWheelDrift said:
It happens in other countries as well, we aren't the only ones to have a few morons in our midst and they have always been around.
Romani ite domum.
People called Romans they go the house?Romani ite domum.
Sorry, red rag to a bull.
And yes I know you'd corrected the grammar, that almost makes it worse.
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