"No more Polish vermin"
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Robertj21a said:
57 Chevy said:
There was a program on TV last night about a Hotel, I think in Kensington, they were interviewing the head of housekeeping, she said that she has never had a British person apply for any of the jobs that she has advertised. How do we think this will change post Brexit, I really wonder where some companies are going to get staff from.
Where did they come from before ?
jjlynn27 said:
True, I'd add that some were emboldened by Brexit vote, and started to voice 'opinions' they already had.
I suspect the true racists always voiced their opinions. They were just "found" by a wider audience in the run up to the vote and beyond.I suspect a similar "some" went looking for them
It still in no way makes it Brexit's "fault". Nor in any way does it make all those, or even a material number of those, who voted for Brexit racist.
Murph7355 said:
I suspect the true racists always voiced their opinions. They were just "found" by a wider audience in the run up to the vote and beyond.
I suspect a similar "some" went looking for them
It still in no way makes it Brexit's "fault". Nor in any way does it make all those, or even a material number of those, who voted for Brexit racist.
Agree with your last line. As for the rest; I do believe that tiny minority, 'found voice' after vote. For example;I suspect a similar "some" went looking for them
It still in no way makes it Brexit's "fault". Nor in any way does it make all those, or even a material number of those, who voted for Brexit racist.
I don't doubt that he always had those views, I doubt that he was voicing them before. That is not to say, once again, that it's Brexit vote fault.
57 Chevy said:
There was a program on TV last night about a Hotel, I think in Kensington, they were interviewing the head of housekeeping, she said that she has never had a British person apply for any of the jobs that she has advertised. How do we think this will change post Brexit, I really wonder where some companies are going to get staff from.
Good program. Mandarin Oriental. Mainly Polish / Slovenian IIRC ??The St Lucian doorman represented his country in the high jump - nice bloke !!
Robertj21a said:
57 Chevy said:
There was a program on TV last night about a Hotel, I think in Kensington, they were interviewing the head of housekeeping, she said that she has never had a British person apply for any of the jobs that she has advertised. How do we think this will change post Brexit, I really wonder where some companies are going to get staff from.
Where did they come from before ?Sick to the teeth of these money grabbing firms who have been getting away with slave labour since the influx of immigrants turned up whining on "I don't know what were going to do" perhaps stick your hand in your pocket you f
king tightarses.Also because some racist pricks voted for Brexit don't tar everyone with the same brush, some people have had enough of tight fisted bosses getting away with paying peanuts, that doesn't make them racist.
Raygun said:
Exactly what I think everytime I hear a storey like this.
Sick to the teeth of these money grabbing firms who have been getting away with slave labour since the influx of immigrants turned up whining on "I don't know what were going to do" perhaps stick your hand in your pocket you fking tightarses.
Also because some racist pricks voted for Brexit don't tar everyone with the same brush, some people have had enough of tight fisted bosses getting away with paying peanuts, that doesn't make them racist.
I never said it made anyone racist, I just think we will have an issue. See my previous reply as to why I think this, which seems to have been ignored. Sick to the teeth of these money grabbing firms who have been getting away with slave labour since the influx of immigrants turned up whining on "I don't know what were going to do" perhaps stick your hand in your pocket you f
king tightarses.Also because some racist pricks voted for Brexit don't tar everyone with the same brush, some people have had enough of tight fisted bosses getting away with paying peanuts, that doesn't make them racist.
57 Chevy said:
Good question. I guess the type of person who previously filled a role like this has either bettered themselves as degree graduates have increased or they have opted out of working all together. If it's the former, even if they are currently unemployed they are probably overqualified with too high salary expectation to come back to a role like this. If it's the latter and they are serial benefits claimants they may not be motivated enough to do as good a job as someone who is prepared to move house and home in order to better their standard of living. Either way I think the hospitality industry in particular is going to have recruiting problems if there is no free movement to work between UK and the EU.
57 Chevy said:
Raygun said:
Exactly what I think everytime I hear a storey like this.
Sick to the teeth of these money grabbing firms who have been getting away with slave labour since the influx of immigrants turned up whining on "I don't know what were going to do" perhaps stick your hand in your pocket you fking tightarses.
Also because some racist pricks voted for Brexit don't tar everyone with the same brush, some people have had enough of tight fisted bosses getting away with paying peanuts, that doesn't make them racist.
I never said it made anyone racist, I just think we will have an issue. See my previous reply as to why I think this, which seems to have been ignored. Sick to the teeth of these money grabbing firms who have been getting away with slave labour since the influx of immigrants turned up whining on "I don't know what were going to do" perhaps stick your hand in your pocket you f
king tightarses.Also because some racist pricks voted for Brexit don't tar everyone with the same brush, some people have had enough of tight fisted bosses getting away with paying peanuts, that doesn't make them racist.
57 Chevy said:
Good question. I guess the type of person who previously filled a role like this has either bettered themselves as degree graduates have increased or they have opted out of working all together. If it's the former, even if they are currently unemployed they are probably overqualified with too high salary expectation to come back to a role like this. If it's the latter and they are serial benefits claimants they may not be motivated enough to do as good a job as someone who is prepared to move house and home in order to better their standard of living. Either way I think the hospitality industry in particular is going to have recruiting problems if there is no free movement to work between UK and the EU.
Perhaps the people advertising for hospitality jobs will have to increase the money on offer or if they can't afford it perhaps try another business venture that is more lucrative, they must look at different avenues after that gravy train comes to an end.
speedyman said:
Did we have any hotels before the eu?
We did, which were staffed by the "working class", unfortunately nowadays there is such a generous benefit system that the people who would have previously taken such jobs now don't, and have no interest in doing so whilst they can receive a decent income from benefits.berlintaxi said:
speedyman said:
Did we have any hotels before the eu?
We did, which were staffed by the "working class", unfortunately nowadays there is such a generous benefit system that the people who would have previously taken such jobs now don't, and have no interest in doing so whilst they can receive a decent income from benefits.Wages have been driven into thengrpund which means that yes sometimes for some people its just not worth working. This could be reversed which would take massive strain off the benefits system.
Ahbefive said:
berlintaxi said:
speedyman said:
Did we have any hotels before the eu?
We did, which were staffed by the "working class", unfortunately nowadays there is such a generous benefit system that the people who would have previously taken such jobs now don't, and have no interest in doing so whilst they can receive a decent income from benefits.Wages have been driven into thengrpund which means that yes sometimes for some people its just not worth working. This could be reversed which would take massive strain off the benefits system.
berlintaxi said:
Ahbefive said:
berlintaxi said:
speedyman said:
Did we have any hotels before the eu?
We did, which were staffed by the "working class", unfortunately nowadays there is such a generous benefit system that the people who would have previously taken such jobs now don't, and have no interest in doing so whilst they can receive a decent income from benefits.Wages have been driven into thengrpund which means that yes sometimes for some people its just not worth working. This could be reversed which would take massive strain off the benefits system.
speedyman said:
Of course its not the fault of "foreigners" its the fault of a system of free movement. Free movement is not a problem, UNTIL it becomes a problem. The EU refused to let the uk do anything about free movement which is having an adverse affect on our inferstructure with regard to housing, hospitals, schools, wages are only one aspect of free movement.
So explain these adverse effects on inferstructure to me. We do not have a housing shortage they are just expensive. Hospitals are full of elderly British people. Without immigrantion schools would now be closing. The evidence suggests immigrantion has a small effect on the lowest paid but an overall positive effect.I know your mate down then pub told you different and he is always right.
Mrr T said:
speedyman said:
Of course its not the fault of "foreigners" its the fault of a system of free movement. Free movement is not a problem, UNTIL it becomes a problem. The EU refused to let the uk do anything about free movement which is having an adverse affect on our inferstructure with regard to housing, hospitals, schools, wages are only one aspect of free movement.
So explain these adverse effects on inferstructure to me. We do not have a housing shortage they are just expensive. Hospitals are full of elderly British people. Without immigrantion schools would now be closing. The evidence suggests immigrantion has a small effect on the lowest paid but an overall positive effect.I know your mate down then pub told you different and he is always right.
I guess you didn't read the words "Free Movement", immigration is a good thing in a lot of cases. The UK just needs to control it, that is the problem ! No control.
Do we need doctors and nurses, yes. Do we need people living and s
tting in parks plus claiming benefits No. Your deluded if you don't see a problem with free movement.http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/651441/Romanian-s...
Mrr T said:
So explain these adverse effects on inferstructure to me. We do not have a housing shortage they are just expensive. Hospitals are full of elderly British people. Without immigrantion schools would now be closing. The evidence suggests immigrantion has a small effect on the lowest paid but an overall positive effect.
I know your mate down then pub told you different and he is always right.
There is no housing shortage ? I know your mate down then pub told you different and he is always right.
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