"No more Polish vermin"

[dandarez]

Mrr T said:

So explain these adverse effects on inferstructure to me. We do not have a housing shortage they are just expensive. Hospitals are full of elderly British people. Without immigrantion schools would now be closing. The evidence suggests immigrantion has a small effect on the lowest paid but an overall positive effect.
I know your mate down then pub told you different and he is always right.

I've read some st on here, but that beats all. Who told YOU that? Your mate in YOUR pub? I saw some of them where I was last evening. I was in A&E - early hours. Full of old people? It was full of vomit ie pissed up young people in the main, a (young!) couple fighting (again pissed or on coke, not the drink) and police had to be called and intervened. At 3.30 am we went to a ward, some elderly, others of all ages so not predominantly elderly.
Didn't see any 'children' though, except one about 5 years old in A&E with her parents. Poor little mite was poorly but seemed more traumatised by the drunken drugged 'young' dicks. It made me livid! The loo was being cleaned (full of vomit apparently - pissed up Friday night 'young' scum!). About time they started handing invoices to the scum.

As for the rest of your rubbish, do I need to go further than 'we do not have a housing crisis, they are just expensive' FFS!

[wc98]

Funkycoldribena said:

Mrr T said:

So explain these adverse effects on inferstructure to me. We do not have a housing shortage they are just expensive. Hospitals are full of elderly British people. Without immigrantion schools would now be closing. The evidence suggests immigrantion has a small effect on the lowest paid but an overall positive effect.
I know your mate down then pub told you different and he is always right.

This just goes to show how out of touch some on here are.

agreed . what many seem to forget is the people coming here for the lower paying jobs are being exploited just as much as any of the indigenous population .
the growing number of zero hours contracts is evidence of that. no matter as this issue will be sorted sooner or later.

there are many empty houses in the places with high unemployment and lots of people claiming benefits , i wonder if mrr t thinks it's a good idea for more people to move to those areas ?

[Troubleatmill]

We have an unemployment rate of around 4.8%

I can't help feeling that if dole money was not handed out - that 4.8% would be much closer to 0%

Something in me grates that we have circa 5% unemployment - and yet so much work is so available that we have millions of economic migrants coming in to work ( and work hard ).

[PH XKR]

Troubleatmill said:

We have an unemployment rate of around 4.8%

I can't help feeling that if dole money was not handed out - that 4.8% would be much closer to 0%

Something in me grates that we have circa 5% unemployment - and yet so much work is so available that we have millions of economic migrants coming in to work ( and work hard ).

fire out a few kids, receive a house, approx. of 27k's worth of benefits. Why wouldn't they want to be on the dole?

[anonymous-user]

dandarez said:

I've read some st on here, but that beats all. Who told YOU that? Your mate in YOUR pub? I saw some of them where I was last evening. I was in A&E - early hours. Full of old people? It was full of vomit ie pissed up young people in the main, a (young!) couple fighting (again pissed or on coke, not the drink) and police had to be called and intervened. At 3.30 am we went to a ward, some elderly, others of all ages so not predominantly elderly.
Didn't see any 'children' though, except one about 5 years old in A&E with her parents. Poor little mite was poorly but seemed more traumatised by the drunken drugged 'young' dicks. It made me livid! The loo was being cleaned (full of vomit apparently - pissed up Friday night 'young' scum!). About time they started handing invoices to the scum.

As for the rest of your rubbish, do I need to go further than 'we do not have a housing crisis, they are just expensive' FFS!

Yep, similar thing to when I took my mate to Addenbrookes in Cambridge one evening, thugs continuing the punch up in the hospital, few elderly looking frightened, why decent people have to put up with a load of st like this every weekend is beyond me. These thugs are a fkin embarrassment and a drain on the NHS.

[Troubleatmill]

PH XKR said:

Troubleatmill said:

We have an unemployment rate of around 4.8%

I can't help feeling that if dole money was not handed out - that 4.8% would be much closer to 0%

Something in me grates that we have circa 5% unemployment - and yet so much work is so available that we have millions of economic migrants coming in to work ( and work hard ).

fire out a few kids, receive a house, approx. of 27k's worth of benefits. Why wouldn't they want to be on the dole?

Exactly.

Stop all dole money, houses etc...

I would much rather we have as close to 0% unemployment and then supplement.

[PH XKR]

Troubleatmill said:

PH XKR said:

Troubleatmill said:

We have an unemployment rate of around 4.8%

I can't help feeling that if dole money was not handed out - that 4.8% would be much closer to 0%

Something in me grates that we have circa 5% unemployment - and yet so much work is so available that we have millions of economic migrants coming in to work ( and work hard ).

fire out a few kids, receive a house, approx. of 27k's worth of benefits. Why wouldn't they want to be on the dole?

Exactly.

Stop all dole money, houses etc...

I would much rather we have as close to 0% unemployment and then supplement.

as soon as we ditch the ECHR we can start to impose some normality back to treating people.

[berlintaxi]

wc98 said:

what many seem to forget is the people coming here for the lower paying jobs are being exploited just as much as any of the indigenous population .
the growing number of zero hours contracts is evidence of that. no matter as this issue will be sorted sooner or later.

How is it going to be sorted out sooner or later, zero hour contracts are an American invention and that is where we be guided from once we leave the EU.

[PH XKR]

berlintaxi said:

wc98 said:

what many seem to forget is the people coming here for the lower paying jobs are being exploited just as much as any of the indigenous population .
the growing number of zero hours contracts is evidence of that. no matter as this issue will be sorted sooner or later.

How is it going to be sorted out sooner or later, zero hour contracts are an American invention and that is where we be guided from once we leave the EU.

every worker in the UK, until they hit 2 years employment, are effectively offered the same (lack of) protection a 0 hour contract offers. Hence I now contract.

[battered]

I had the same. 9 months into a job, got injured, they were scared of a disability claim so made some shxt up and fired me. No comeback. I'm now a contractor earning 3 times as much, if I'm not going to get any protection I'll make my own luck. We have done this, it's nothing to do with Europe or immigrants.

You think this is going to change now post Brexit? Ha ha, want to bet?

[CaptainSlow]

Deptford Draylons said:

Mrr T said:

So explain these adverse effects on inferstructure to me. We do not have a housing shortage they are just expensive. Hospitals are full of elderly British people. Without immigrantion schools would now be closing. The evidence suggests immigrantion has a small effect on the lowest paid but an overall positive effect.
I know your mate down then pub told you different and he is always right.

There is no housing shortage ?

No they're just expensive.


Funniest thing I've read on NP&E for a while...

[Ahbefive]

Mrr T said:

So explain these adverse effects on inferstructure to me. We do not have a housing shortage they are just expensive. Hospitals are full of elderly British people. Without immigrantion schools would now be closing. The evidence suggests immigrantion has a small effect on the lowest paid but an overall positive effect.
I know your mate down then pub told you different and he is always right.

The ramblings of an absolute retard. Surely nobody can be this thick?

[speedyman]

Ahbefive said:

Mrr T said:

So explain these adverse effects on inferstructure to me. We do not have a housing shortage they are just expensive. Hospitals are full of elderly British people. Without immigrantion schools would now be closing. The evidence suggests immigrantion has a small effect on the lowest paid but an overall positive effect.
I know your mate down then pub told you different and he is always right.

The ramblings of an absolute retard. Surely nobody can be this thick?

He wont answer any qustions now because its past bed time.

[Mr Snrub]

wc98 said:

jjlynn27 said:

berlintaxi said:

jjlynn27 said:

Soon ship out dheads like that, makes you ashamed to be British.

Eh, he's not racist/xenophobe because he's British, it's because he's a tool. Simple, blunt tool.

tools tend to have a use . i would suggest moron is more applicable.

Why has he got half a haircut? Is that his way of saying he's only 50% committed to the skinhead cause?

[Murph7355]

CaptainSlow said:

No they're just expensive.

Funniest thing I've read on NP&E for a while...

I suspect the statement isn't far from the truth though...

I think there are houses available in the "wrong" places. Or is it the work that is in the "wrong" places?

Demand in the "right" places then outstrips supply, forcing prices up.

It's an example of where the problem is multi-faceted IMO, and simplistic solutions won't work and could have unintended consequences.

(Hospitals and schools I'm less in agreement on...immigrants aren't the root cause, but uncontrollable immigration exacerbates the problem. As does lack of integration. And focusing on countrywide averages doesn't help either as there are likely numerous pockets around the country where there are real and serious issues).

[CaptainSlow]

Murph7355 said:

CaptainSlow said:

No they're just expensive.

Funniest thing I've read on NP&E for a while...

I suspect the statement isn't far from the truth though...


Demand in the "right" places then outstrips supply, forcing prices up.

That's my point.

[battered]

It's the work that's in the wrong places, mostly. However theres no desire to fix it because most in Westminster are looking after their mates in the City and don't know where Cardiff, huddersfield or Ayr are on a map.

[Robertj21a]

battered said:

It's the work that's in the wrong places, mostly. However theres no desire to fix it because most in Westminster are looking after their mates in the City and don't know where Cardiff, huddersfield or Ayr are on a map.

Surely, it's for the employers, not government, to determine where is best for their offices/factories - and where they will be able to recruit suitable staff ?

[Randy Winkman]

Robertj21a said:

battered said:

It's the work that's in the wrong places, mostly. However theres no desire to fix it because most in Westminster are looking after their mates in the City and don't know where Cardiff, huddersfield or Ayr are on a map.

Surely, it's for the employers, not government, to determine where is best for their offices/factories - and where they will be able to recruit suitable staff ?

But in this respect, capitalism doesn't seem to be working.

[battered]

Yes, and watch them rush to Grimsby, Middlesbrough and aberdare the minute they get a tax break or a grant to make it worth their while.