"No more Polish vermin"

[Digga]

battered said:

The debate over roads like the A120 illustrates that any project has to be taken on its own merits. If someone says "This won't work because XYZ road isn't big enough" or similar then it's more likely to be credible than a blanket "no infrastructure" that just sounds like nimbyism. The areas where immigration has caused hardship are where it's excessive *within an area*, like, say, Boston, Lincs. Similar numbers of E Euro nationals have pitched up in Leeds, Bradford, other cities, and they have been absorbed and integrated very well. Somewhere like Grimsby could soak up thousands - housing is cheap and available, there are schools and hospitals, and empty factories. Put the jobs there and they will come. As for roads, the M180 runs right into the place, access to A1/M18/M62 etc, DC all the way to the industrial areas. Port of Hull is just over the bridge. Same goes for all the grotty towns along the '62, a modest tax break would get the employers in the place.

The transport needs to be looked at holistically. The impact of congestion on the economy and also the environment is one issue. Another issue is redundancy. Poicy of previous decades weems to try to 'stuff' motorways by the dumbing-down of the A road network. This was misguided and has left us with no redundancy and less capacity.

M6 north, jct 14 to 15 completely shut for at least six hours today: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news...

[Digga]

KimJongHealthy said:

I'm really struggling to find a reason for able-bodied British person to stay unemployed other than being a lazy f****r.

Safety nets; generous parents and the welfare state are often used as a crutch, rather than a fallback. Of course the former is a two way thing - a colleague of my wife who would be on circa £60-£80k p.a. was still being given cash by her mother, as if she was struggling, which given she was a shopaholic idiot, might be the case, but that's far from the point.

[Murph7355]

Digga said:

Safety nets; generous parents and the welfare state are often used as a crutch, rather than a fallback. Of course the former is a two way thing - a colleague of my wife who would be on circa £60-£80k p.a. was still being given cash by her mother, as if she was struggling, which given she was a shopaholic idiot, might be the case, but that's far from the point.

And then, of course, said lady's mother ends up blocking an NHS bed when ill as she cannot afford care at home nor does the daughter want to do it...

[battered]

KimJongHealthy said:

My younger brother’s Polish friend from college has had around 10 jobs in the last 18 months, working part time and weekends in cafes and takeaway places. His first job hunt in Britain involved knocking on doors for a week until he found something. Last time he changed the job because bus service got cancelled so he’d be late to work after the lectures. Apparently it took him one afternoon and few phone calls to find a new job close to his home.

As far as I know he rents a flat with his girlfriend and they both get around NMW.

I'm really struggling to find a reason for able-bodied British person to stay unemployed other than being a lazy f****r.



As for the earnings, the current minimum wage is £7.20ph, times 37.5hr per week gives us exactly 1,068.91 monthly earnings after taxes. That's £2k with two people working in the household. Enough to rent a flat, pay bills and stop blaming immigrants for their poor career choices.

Edited by KimJongHealthy on Thursday 9th March 11:39

What a simple world you live in. Nothing complex, and no hardship will result from implementing any decision to cut benefits to zero. If only the real world worked the same way.

[wc98]

KimJongHealthy said:

My younger brother’s Polish friend from college has had around 10 jobs in the last 18 months, working part time and weekends in cafes and takeaway places. His first job hunt in Britain involved knocking on doors for a week until he found something. Last time he changed the job because bus service got cancelled so he’d be late to work after the lectures. Apparently it took him one afternoon and few phone calls to find a new job close to his home.

As far as I know he rents a flat with his girlfriend and they both get around NMW.

I'm really struggling to find a reason for able-bodied British person to stay unemployed other than being a lazy f****r.



As for the earnings, the current minimum wage is £7.20ph, times 37.5hr per week gives us exactly 1,068.91 monthly earnings after taxes. That's £2k with two people working in the household. Enough to rent a flat, pay bills and stop blaming immigrants for their poor career choices.

Edited by KimJongHealthy on Thursday 9th March 11:39

i think you just made a great case for everyone in the uk to be on nmw regardless of job . you want to try cutting your wages first

[anonymous-user]

KimJongHealthy said:

My younger brother’s Polish friend from college has had around 10 jobs in the last 18 months, working part time and weekends in cafes and takeaway places. His first job hunt in Britain involved knocking on doors for a week until he found something. Last time he changed the job because bus service got cancelled so he’d be late to work after the lectures. Apparently it took him one afternoon and few phone calls to find a new job close to his home.

As far as I know he rents a flat with his girlfriend and they both get around NMW.

I'm really struggling to find a reason for able-bodied British person to stay unemployed other than being a lazy f****r.



As for the earnings, the current minimum wage is £7.20ph, times 37.5hr per week gives us exactly 1,068.91 monthly earnings after taxes. That's £2k with two people working in the household. Enough to rent a flat, pay bills and stop blaming immigrants for their poor career choices.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 9th March 11:39

Extortionate house prices, extortionate rent, expensive heating and fuel bills, expensive food bills, the last thing a low income Brit needs is someone from overseas working for peanuts keeping the wage rates low.
There's always been some bone idol types but there's a lot of genuine Brits who work hard on a low income who could do with a increase in their pay not an influx of people keeping it low.

[Ahbefive]

Exactly. Also all the Eastern Europeans that I have ever worked with may pay tax here but are saving all their money to buy a house for £20k-£30k or similar in Poland/Bulgaria/Lithuania etc etc.

[Mr Snrub]

KimJongHealthy said:

Not everybody has to live in London, 2 bedroom flat or semi-detached costs £500 per month in most areas. And if you do live in London, you'll be earning more than NMW washing dishes. I pay less than £100 monthly on heating and electricity for a 2bd house, after all we are not in Siberia. With some other bills and council tax added, a couple can still have £1200 disposable income per month. You can easily live on it, or if you don't like to do so, there are plenty of subsidised courses to choose from. I really don't see why someone must be able to afford new car every three years for flipping burgers. We can't all be millionaires.

The main reason this Brit can work for £7.20 per hour is because someone works for £7.20 per week making his clothing, toys and game consoles, very likely in a country previously "owned" by Britain.

If Poles (or any other people, plenty of nice Spanish folks where I live) manage on NMW, save up for their own place and help their families back home, there really is no reason why Brits can't do those jobs.

Edited by KimJongHealthy on Thursday 9th March 19:34

If you could find a wide choice of 2 bed semis for £500 a month in Kent I'd love to see them

[Mr Snrub]

KimJongHealthy said:

You named one of the more expensive areas of Britain so obviously houses will be out of reach of a burger flipper, but quick search on rightmove gives me plenty of 2bd flats in Kent around £500pm.

Virtually all of the ones you've listed are house shares or retirement properties.

[Murph7355]

Mr Snrub said:

Virtually all of the ones you've listed are house shares ....

So?

[Mr Snrub]

Murph7355 said:

Mr Snrub said:

Virtually all of the ones you've listed are house shares ....

So?

So it's not a 2 bed semi is it?

[BlackLabel]

rscott said:

Mr GrimNasty said:

vonuber said:

Another sad incident:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/30/fi...

Sad yes, probability of it being a 'hate crime', pure supposition, and unlikely, if you actually read it. Although the whole article is written around dredging up that very issue. But then it is the Guardian so what do you expect!

Try http://www.standard.co.uk/news/harlow-five-teenage... .
Police believe they were verbally assaulted before the attack by up to 20 boys & girls.

Turns out it wasn't racially motivated nevertheless 3 years in prison seems very lenient.


"Boy, 16, who killed a drunk Polish man with a single 'Superman punch' in a row outside a pizza shop is jailed for three years"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4865092/Bo...

Edited by BlackLabel on Friday 8th September 18:15

[danllama]

Should have murdered this little scum bag, our justice system completely failed to deal with him sufficiently today.

https://predatorcatchersuk.wordpress.com/2017/09/0...

[Tryke3]

9 years for rape 3 years for murder

[Sa Calobra]

Silvernoble883 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Here in West London we have a large Polish and the Polish war Memorial. We didn't complain then did we, when a previous generation of Polish young men came to Britain to fight with the RAF and help defeat the Nazis.

And the Polish paratroopers who fought side by side with our boys, yes I voted leave and I think immigration is out of control but these cards are disgusting and I believe 99.9% of British leave voters would agree with me.

I voted leave. Many many of the people in my area growing up were 1st/2nd generation Polish etc and that was in the 90's. Many anglezed their names.

We aren't a nation of pure blood Celts or whatever, we've always mixed and blended.

I voted leave for different reasons to what the rabid Guardian and other media would like to tell the populace.

I'm also 2nd generation none Brit and my son is half 2nd generation far East.

But let's not confuse the Guardian readers they might explode with the confusion

[83HP]

Third generation pole and a leave voter.. let's just say in the past 15 years the UK has got more quantity over quality from Poland since the opening up of the borders

[anonymous-user]

83HP said:

Third generation pole and a leave voter.. let's just say in the past 15 years the UK has got more quantity over quality from Poland since the opening up of the borders

You racist b****rd
What gives you the right as a third generation pole to say such tings based on your own experiences and observations. More of that and PC So Shalmedia will be along shortly to educate into the penalties of writing hate speech

Shocking

[Tom Logan]

You mad .

[anonymous-user]

Tom Logan said:

You mad .

And your just as bad. You strike me as the sort that will immediately think "its the travellers wot dun it" when you see a village park over run with waste and empty calor gas bottles. All this after a group of travellers have been moved on from it You wont consider the alternatives such as locals doing it or an out of town fly tipper depositing his waste. Oh no jump to the easy conclusion and blame the poor travelling community.
Its called casual racism and I'm out to stop it

[B'stard Child]

techiedave said:

Tom Logan said:

You mad .

And your just as bad. You strike me as the sort that will immediately think "its the travellers wot dun it" when you see a village park over run with waste and empty calor gas bottles. All this after a group of travellers have been moved on from it You wont consider the alternatives such as locals doing it or an out of town fly tipper depositing his waste. Oh no jump to the easy conclusion and blame the poor travelling community.
Its called casual racism and I'm out to stop it

Your

It's fking

You're

Jesus I expected better