The economic consequences of Brexit

[powerstroke]

mike9009 said:

The way I read it, GDP increased in the EU from 13548 to 14635? Thus an increase in GDP?? The per capita figure dropped though, you are correct. But I did state GDP only.

???? Really questioning my comprehension skills now.....

Mike

What point are you trying to make ??? are they all filthy rich and in good jobs etc ????

[don4l]

mike9009 said:

Why are we bothering to negotiate? I thought we voted out of the EU and single market?

The peoples voice was rather clear on that - well 52% anyway.

Mike

52% was more than a majority when I studied maths.

Are you saying that my maths teacher lied to me?

50.0000001% was all that was needed for a victory.

We got more than a million times than what was necessary.

If you had lost by only one vote, then you would have lost.

Fortunately, you lost by a margin that was a million times bigger than necessary.

Come the 15th March 2019, we will be free of the shackles of the socialist idiots who run the EU.

This is a cause for great celebration and national pride.

Sadly, most of the people who voted Remain don't seem to have any sense of National Pride.

So, Mike9009, I will ask you a simple question.

Tell us why you think that Great britain is a good country to live in?

If you cannot answer this question with any degree of enthusiasm, then you will just confirm my view that most Remainers are actually traitors.

The floor is yours...

[anonymous-user]

Our current PM: Remainer traitor?

http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2016/04...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/25/e...

(Those were a month apart, btw)

Or turncoat hypocrite.

So difficult for don4l to know who to trust these days. Indications seem to be that he has invested a bit too much in TM the PM.

[don4l]

Greg66 said:

Our current PM: Remainer traitor?

http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2016/04...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/25/e...

(Those were a month apart, btw)

Or turncoat hypocrite.

So difficult for don4l to know who to trust these days. Indications seem to be that he has invested a bit too much in TM the PM.

I'm still a bit unsure.

I will admit that I wasn't happy when she became leader. I had, if you remember, been rooting for Leadsom.

However, when I heard the cabinet appointments, I was much placated.

I'll admit that there are acouple that I am not too happy with. Hammond looks like a bit of a disaster to me.

On the bright side, we have Iain Duncan-Smith, David Davis and Liam Fox on the front bench. These are sensible people. I wasn't aware of Pritti Patel until recently, but I am warming to her.

On the other side we do seem to have a few lefty career politicians. I really don't like these people. Amber Rudd is very annoying. I don't understand why the thick bint is in government. That Soubray woman also has a position, UI think. Hopefully, I am wrong.

The one thing that cheers me, is that May kept very quiet during the campaign. She only spoke out once, and she was as convincing as Corbyn.

So, yes, I admit that you might have a crumb of comfort to cling to, but I do think that May was a Leaver all along.

I trust that you will acknowledge that this has been a polite response.

[jamoor]

Greg66 said:

Our current PM: Remainer traitor?

http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2016/04...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/25/e...

(Those were a month apart, btw)

Or turncoat hypocrite.

So difficult for don4l to know who to trust these days. Indications seem to be that he has invested a bit too much in TM the PM.

Of course,

She's a 60!! year old career politician that wants to go out with a bang, what has she got to lose? She won't have to live long with any of the decisions she makes, and if she does she will be retired and drawing a pension.

Frankly she is too old to be prime minister.

[B'stard Child]

Previous PM

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-r...

Britain could thrive outside Europe, claims David Cameron

That was in 2015

So someone who campaigned to remain was aware of the potential to do well if we left threw his toys in the corner and sulked off

Someone who clearly saw advantages in remaining before the referendum but wasn't a leading campaigner for it has picked up the ball and is running with it because that's what the electorate requested.

Not hard to understand for me.

[s2art]

jamoor said:

Of course,

Frankly she is too old to be prime minister.

How old was Thatcher?

[don4l]

jamoor said:

Of course,

She's a 60!! year old career politician that wants to go out with a bang, what has she got to lose? She won't have to live long with any of the decisions she makes, and if she does she will be retired and drawing a pension.

Frankly she is too old to be prime minister.

What do you think the maximum age should be for a PM?

[jamoor]

cirian75 said:

South Korean is mainly electronics and heavy industry though.

They have a cost advantage compared to the uk too.

[don4l]

jamoor said:

cirian75 said:

South Korean is mainly electronics and heavy industry though.

They have a cost advantage compared to the uk too.

What's that then?

[davepoth]

jamoor said:

Of course,

She's a 60!! year old career politician that wants to go out with a bang, what has she got to lose? She won't have to live long with any of the decisions she makes, and if she does she will be retired and drawing a pension.

Frankly she is too old to be prime minister.

Churchill was 65. Should we have stuck with Chamberlain? (probably not, since he was over 60 too)

Some other notable ones this century: Disraeli was 63, Atlee was 62, Macmillan was 62, Douglas-Home was 60, Callaghan was 64.

[jamoor]

don4l said:

What's that then?

Look up minimum wage in Korea vs UK.

Ever been to Korea?

[cirian75]

jamoor said:

don4l said:

What's that then?

Look up minimum wage in Korea vs UK.

Ever been to Korea?

£4.69ph at todays exchange rate

would have been £3.70 with the 22nd June exchange rate.

Edited by cirian75 on Wednesday 26th October 06:04

[cirian75]

powerstroke said:

cirian75 said:

jamoor said:

don4l said:

What's that then?

Look up minimum wage in Korea vs UK.

Ever been to Korea?

£4.69ph at todays exchange rate

wonders how much a house or rent is there????

been reading, they don't do rent the same way we do.

http://qz.com/183412/koreas-crazy-system-for-renti...

[jamoor]

cirian75 said:

£4.69ph at todays exchange rate

would have been £3.70 with the 22nd June exchange rate.

Edited by cirian75 on Wednesday 26th October 06:04

Quite a big difference.

They also have chaebols, debatable weather they provide any advantage for their economy but we don't really have anything like them.

Colossal economies of scope and scale through those.

[anonymous-user]

don4l said:

I trust that you will acknowledge that this has been a polite response.

Very!

I find May puzzling in the light of her pre vote stance. It wasn't a widely publicised stance but it was very clear.

I can't decide whether she genuinely is of the mind "whatever I used to think doesn't matter; the people have spoken and now I have to get on with it", or whether in these particular circumstances she wants to giving the impression of trying to do do X whilst planning for Y. I think it may be a while before that is resolved definitively.

[Digga]

jamoor said:

cirian75 said:

£4.69ph at todays exchange rate

would have been £3.70 with the 22nd June exchange rate.

Edited by cirian75 on Wednesday 26th October 06:04

Quite a big difference.

They also have chaebols, debatable weather they provide any advantage for their economy but we don't really have anything like them.

Colossal economies of scope and scale through those.

They also, as a rule, not exception, work 6 days a week.

O/T The ones who we've had working for us over in the UK like beer (and pubs of course) and fish and chips. We found a pub that did good fish and chips and they were made up. Life's all about cultural exchange.

[Countdown]

don4l said:

52% was more than a majority when I studied maths.

Are you saying that my maths teacher lied to me?

Only if she told you there was something called "more than a majority". It's either a majority or it isn't.

[FN2TypeR]

Digga said:

They also, as a rule, not exception, work 6 days a week.

O/T The ones who we've had working for us over in the UK like beer (and pubs of course) and fish and chips. We found a pub that did good fish and chips and they were made up. Life's all about cultural exchange.

We had an intern working with us who was from South Korea and funnily enough he was borderline addicted to FnC. Tartare sauce too (French origin perhaps?) he loved that stuff, used to eat it with just about everything he had!

[don4l]

IroningMan said:

It may come as a disappointment to some that we can't even start negotiating until we've left - that suggests there may be a hiatus of a few years with us stuck on WTO rules with everyone whilst negotiations take place.

We have already started negotiations.

Juncker told us that we do not have the right to conduct these negotiations. In fact, they have said that if we do try to have negotiations, they will kick us out of the Union.


Obama told us that we would be at "the back of the queue".

What queue? Since the TTIP negotiations broke down, there isn't a queue.