The economic consequences of Brexit

The economic consequences of Brexit

Poll: The economic consequences of Brexit

Total Members Polled: 732

Far worse off than EU countries.: 15%
A bit worse off than if we'd stayed in.: 35%
A bit better off than if we'd stayed in.: 41%
Roughly as rich as the Swiss.: 10%
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Digga

40,321 posts

283 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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FN2TypeR said:
Digga said:
They also, as a rule, not exception, work 6 days a week.

O/T The ones who we've had working for us over in the UK like beer (and pubs of course) and fish and chips. We found a pub that did good fish and chips and they were made up. Life's all about cultural exchange.
We had an intern working with us who was from South Korea and funnily enough he was borderline addicted to FnC. Tartare sauce too (French origin perhaps?) he loved that stuff, used to eat it with just about everything he had! hehe
hehe It is a very interesting culture and, despite the very strong work ethic, it would be misleading and unfair for Westerners to dismiss them as drones - they do know how to enjoy themselves. The culture of respect and hierarchy brings benefits, although it can also bring well documented - see airlines - cases of clashes with common sense.

cirian75

4,260 posts

233 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexit-liam-fox-eu-a...



Oh dear, did fox not know that the other non EU country would not negotiate a deal till we are fully out as it would break EU rules, and piss the EU off at the same time, for a doctor he is a bit simple.

Edited by cirian75 on Wednesday 26th October 10:08

don4l

10,058 posts

176 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Countdown said:
don4l said:
52% was more than a majority when I studied maths.

Are you saying that my maths teacher lied to me?
Only if she told you there was something called "more than a majority". It's either a majority or it isn't.
That was precisely my point.

Thank you.


Countdown

39,895 posts

196 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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don4l said:
That was precisely my point.

Thank you.
rofl

don4l

10,058 posts

176 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Greg66 said:
Very!

I find May puzzling in the light of her pre vote stance. It wasn't a widely publicised stance but it was very clear.

I can't decide whether she genuinely is of the mind "whatever I used to think doesn't matter; the people have spoken and now I have to get on with it", or whether in these particular circumstances she wants to giving the impression of trying to do do X whilst planning for Y. I think it may be a while before that is resolved definitively.
Her pre vote stance was a bit ambiguous. She was in the "Remain" camp, but she didn't campaign very vigourously.

This was questioned at the time.


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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don4l said:
Greg66 said:
Very!

I find May puzzling in the light of her pre vote stance. It wasn't a widely publicised stance but it was very clear.

I can't decide whether she genuinely is of the mind "whatever I used to think doesn't matter; the people have spoken and now I have to get on with it", or whether in these particular circumstances she wants to giving the impression of trying to do do X whilst planning for Y. I think it may be a while before that is resolved definitively.
Her pre vote stance was a bit ambiguous. She was in the "Remain" camp, but she didn't campaign very vigourously.

This was questioned at the time.
She is behaving in exactly the same way as all remainers should be - putting aside their disappointment and striving to move forwards for the good of the majority.


jamoor

14,506 posts

215 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Digga said:
They also, as a rule, not exception, work 6 days a week.

O/T The ones who we've had working for us over in the UK like beer (and pubs of course) and fish and chips. We found a pub that did good fish and chips and they were made up. Life's all about cultural exchange.
Another thing is it's a new economy rather than the uk so doesn't hav any of the affiliated legacy costs that we are burdened with.

All of their infrastructure is brand new for example

Tony427

2,873 posts

233 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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I happened to be watching the Parliament channel this morning and they were showing this morning's session at the European Parliament. I only caught the last few moments of Farage's speach but was surprised to hear him say that there were a number of countries that have a free trade deal with the EU that does not include free movement.

A moments googling confirmed that, according to Wickepedia, there are 32 countries including Mexico, that have free trade agreements with the EU that do not have the Free movement of people as a requirement.

32.

Thats one hell of a precedent.

So "no free trade without free movement" is a load of cock, if its good enough for Mexico its good enough for us.

Cheers,

Tony


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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bmw535i said:
She is behaving in exactly the same way as all remainers should be - putting aside their disappointment and striving to move forwards for the good of the majority.
The point is this: you may be right, or you may not. It's a wee bit ambiguous right now.

Consider this: yesterday the Govt made an ostensibly big and decisive decision. End of the prevarication and now we move forwards. Except we don't. It goes to the Commons first, then lobbying, planning enquiries, judicial review... She knows all this, but now she's able to say she has acted clearly and decisively and everyone else is holding it up.

RYH64E

7,960 posts

244 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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bmw535i said:
She is behaving in exactly the same way as all remainers should be - putting aside their disappointment and striving to move forwards for the good of the majority.
She's a career politician, as is Johnson, they will say and do whatever is in their personal best interest regardless of whether they believe it to be best for the country.

cirian75

4,260 posts

233 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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I'm actually calling shenanigans on this, brexit is being used as an excuse here.

http://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/2016/10/itv-studios...

JawKnee

1,140 posts

97 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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bmw535i said:
don4l said:
Greg66 said:
Very!

I find May puzzling in the light of her pre vote stance. It wasn't a widely publicised stance but it was very clear.

I can't decide whether she genuinely is of the mind "whatever I used to think doesn't matter; the people have spoken and now I have to get on with it", or whether in these particular circumstances she wants to giving the impression of trying to do do X whilst planning for Y. I think it may be a while before that is resolved definitively.
Her pre vote stance was a bit ambiguous. She was in the "Remain" camp, but she didn't campaign very vigourously.

This was questioned at the time.
She is behaving in exactly the same way as all remainers should be - putting aside their disappointment and striving to move forwards for the good of the majority.
In no way is Brexit "Good for the majority". TM should probably stick with her instincts and keep us in the single market to do the least damage to the majority.

don4l

10,058 posts

176 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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JawKnee said:
In no way is Brexit "Good for the majority". TM should probably stick with her instincts and keep us in the single market to do the least damage to the majority.
The majority think that a Brexit will be good for the majority.

Tell us why you think that we are wrong.

speedy_thrills

7,760 posts

243 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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cirian75 said:
I'm actually calling shenanigans on this, brexit is being used as an excuse here.

http://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/2016/10/itv-studios...
What did you expect? "Down to poor strategy/decisions by senior executives compounding the fact the studio has churned out some real creative rubbish..."

Hosenbugler

1,854 posts

102 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Another stab in the heart of project/fear/remoan/anti democracy.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-lloyds-results-id...

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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JawKnee said:
In no way is Brexit "Good for the majority". TM should probably stick with her instincts and keep us in the single market to do the least damage to the majority.
sleep

RYH64E

7,960 posts

244 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Hosenbugler said:
Another stab in the heart of project/fear/remoan/anti democracy.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-lloyds-results-id...
We've not left yet, higher prices from the weak pound haven't fed through yet, companies haven't decided whether to leave or stay yet, it's far too early to be seeing the consequences of 'our' decision.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Hosenbugler said:
Another stab in the heart of project/fear/remoan/anti democracy.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-lloyds-results-id...
They won't accept it, "wrong sort of good news".

Now if it had been bad news it would obviously be gospel rolleyes.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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RYH64E said:
Hosenbugler said:
Another stab in the heart of project/fear/remoan/anti democracy.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-lloyds-results-id...
We've not left yet, higher prices from the weak pound haven't fed through yet, companies haven't decided whether to leave or stay yet, it's far too early to be seeing the consequences of 'our' decision.
You might think its a good idea to cling to the railings on the titanic we leavers were in the lifeboats when we make our x on that wonderful day back in june , Brexit if its done right without sucking up to the EU will be the making of this country.....

Mrr T

12,235 posts

265 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Tony427 said:
I happened to be watching the Parliament channel this morning and they were showing this morning's session at the European Parliament. I only caught the last few moments of Farage's speach but was surprised to hear him say that there were a number of countries that have a free trade deal with the EU that does not include free movement.

A moments googling confirmed that, according to Wickepedia, there are 32 countries including Mexico, that have free trade agreements with the EU that do not have the Free movement of people as a requirement.

32.

Thats one hell of a precedent.

So "no free trade without free movement" is a load of cock, if its good enough for Mexico its good enough for us.

Cheers,

Tony
Only the GGN (Great God Nigel) could turn up at the EU parliament and demonstrate again how little he knows about the EU and trade. Its a national embarrassment. I am sure the EU leaders are laughing out loud.

Let me explain a trade agreement is not the same as the single market. Can I recommend you start reading euferendum.com to gain some incite.

Most importantly no EU trade agreement covers financial services.


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