The economic consequences of Brexit

The economic consequences of Brexit

Poll: The economic consequences of Brexit

Total Members Polled: 732

Far worse off than EU countries.: 15%
A bit worse off than if we'd stayed in.: 35%
A bit better off than if we'd stayed in.: 41%
Roughly as rich as the Swiss.: 10%
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Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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powerstroke said:
Brexit if its done right without sucking up to the EU will be the making of this country.....
How will reducing GDP be the making of this country?

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Fittster said:
powerstroke said:
Brexit if its done right without sucking up to the EU will be the making of this country.....
How will reducing GDP be the making of this country?
Why do you think that ??? free of stifeling bureaucracy we will trade with a big wide world I think GDP will increase ....

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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don4l said:
JawKnee said:
In no way is Brexit "Good for the majority". TM should probably stick with her instincts and keep us in the single market to do the least damage to the majority.
The majority think that a Brexit will be good for the majority.

Tell us why you think that we are wrong.
I wouldn't expect an answer if I were you don, he'll go quiet for a few hours or days, then come back with another trolling post which he can't or won't back up.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Mrr T said:
Only the GGN (Great God Nigel) could turn up at the EU parliament and demonstrate again how little he knows about the EU and trade. Its a national embarrassment. I am sure the EU leaders are laughing out loud.

Let me explain a trade agreement is not the same as the single market. Can I recommend you start reading euferendum.com to gain some incite.

Most importantly no EU trade agreement covers financial services.
I tried to explain that last weekend, even posted links to help, but leavers really aren't interested in hearing it.

JawKnee

1,140 posts

97 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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don4l said:
JawKnee said:
In no way is Brexit "Good for the majority". TM should probably stick with her instincts and keep us in the single market to do the least damage to the majority.
The majority think that a Brexit will be good for the majority.

Tell us why you think that we are wrong.
28% of the entire population is not a majority of what everyone thinks.

Even the PM thinks you're wrong. laugh

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Mrr T said:
Only the GGN (Great God Nigel) could turn up at the EU parliament and demonstrate again how little he knows about the EU and trade. Its a national embarrassment. I am sure the EU leaders are laughing out loud.

Let me explain a trade agreement is not the same as the single market. Can I recommend you start reading euferendum.com to gain some incite.

Most importantly no EU trade agreement covers financial services.
I tried to explain that last weekend, even posted links to help, but leavers really aren't interested in hearing it.
If you had voted in something that you obviously care passionately about perhaps people would be interested in your opinions?

barryrs

4,389 posts

223 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Mrr T said:
Most importantly no EU trade agreement covers financial services.
Key EU trade agreements covering financial services

EU-Chile Association Agreement,
EU-Korea agreement
EU-Singapore PTA
EU-Central America
EU-Colombia/Peru
EU-CARIFORUM

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
If you had voted in something that you obviously care passionately about perhaps people would be interested in your opinions?
Here's £1.

Go by yourself another record.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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don4l said:
JawKnee said:
In no way is Brexit "Good for the majority". TM should probably stick with her instincts and keep us in the single market to do the least damage to the majority.
The majority think that a Brexit will be good for the majority.

Tell us why you think that we are wrong.
Come on, you know how to play this game by now.

Make good the claim that the majority think it will be good "for the majority" (as opposed to themselves or some small group). Then explain how or why the majority hold that view. Arguing with a broad unsubstantiated assertion is no different to swinging at shadows.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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PurpleMoonlight said:
WinstonWolf said:
If you had voted in something that you obviously care passionately about perhaps people would be interested in your opinions?
Here's £1.

Go by yourself another record.
I don't need your £, since Brexit my share portfolio has been performing far better than the whole 25 years I've had it rofl

don4l

10,058 posts

176 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Greg66 said:
don4l said:
JawKnee said:
In no way is Brexit "Good for the majority". TM should probably stick with her instincts and keep us in the single market to do the least damage to the majority.
The majority think that a Brexit will be good for the majority.

Tell us why you think that we are wrong.
Come on, you know how to play this game by now.

Make good the claim that the majority think it will be good "for the majority" (as opposed to themselves or some small group). Then explain how or why the majority hold that view. Arguing with a broad unsubstantiated assertion is no different to swinging at shadows.
I don't think that you fully understand the current situation. I am entirely happy with where we are. So I don't feel any pressure to make good any claim.

I get the impression that you are not happy with the current situation, so I will let you explain why we should ignore the will of the people.


don4l

10,058 posts

176 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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JawKnee said:
don4l said:
JawKnee said:
In no way is Brexit "Good for the majority". TM should probably stick with her instincts and keep us in the single market to do the least damage to the majority.
The majority think that a Brexit will be good for the majority.

Tell us why you think that we are wrong.
28% of the entire population is not a majority of what everyone thinks.

Even the PM thinks you're wrong. laugh
You do know how elections work, don't you?

The PM thinks that you are right. That must be excellent news.

However, she is implementing my wishes.

It just isn't fair, is it?

Democracy sucks!

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
I don't need your £, since Brexit my share portfolio has been performing far better than the whole 25 years I've had it rofl
So let me understand this. For 25 years you've managed your share portfolio so it bumbles along, and now due an unexpected and independent event it's doing really well.

Not exactly the new Warren Buffet, are you?

rofl

Mrr T

12,212 posts

265 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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barryrs said:
Mrr T said:
Most importantly no EU trade agreement covers financial services.
Key EU trade agreements covering financial services

EU-Chile Association Agreement,
EU-Korea agreement
EU-Singapore PTA
EU-Central America
EU-Colombia/Peru
EU-CARIFORUM
I was not aware of those. However, the link below shows these give nothing like passporting rights.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/STUD/...

So what I should have said is no trade agreement has included financial services passporting.


WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Greg66 said:
WinstonWolf said:
I don't need your £, since Brexit my share portfolio has been performing far better than the whole 25 years I've had it rofl
So let me understand this. For 25 years you've managed your share portfolio so it bumbles along, and now due an unexpected and independent event it's doing really well.

Not exactly the new Warren Buffet, are you?

rofl
Not exactly fking Columbo, are you. I pay someone who knows what they're doing to manage it.

I take it you've made a bundle of late if you understand how the markets work? Seems the conditions are excellent...

don4l

10,058 posts

176 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Greg66 said:
So let me understand this. For 25 years you've managed your share portfolio so it bumbles along, and now due an unexpected and independent event it's doing really well.

Not exactly the new Warren Buffet, are you?

rofl
It isn't unexpected or independent.

Many of us joined UKIP and fought for this for many years.

The fact that we have made a killing on the stock markets is entirely down to our own perseverence and hard work.

The beauty is that not only have share prices risen recently, but dividend pay outs are also pretty good.

It's a win-win situation at the moment.

The fact that Remoaners are not sharing in the benefits is entirely your own fault.

If you look at the "No to the EU" thread you will see that I advised you to invest in the stock market at 7:45 am on the 24th of June.

Some of us are making money because we put our money where our mouths are.




Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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powerstroke said:
Fittster said:
powerstroke said:
Brexit if its done right without sucking up to the EU will be the making of this country.....
How will reducing GDP be the making of this country?
Why do you think that ??? free of stifeling bureaucracy we will trade with a big wide world I think GDP will increase ....
Which mainstream economist believes brexit will lead to an increase in GDP?


Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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don4l said:
You do know how elections work, don't you?

The PM thinks that you are right. That must be excellent news.

However, she is implementing my wishes.

It just isn't fair, is it?

Democracy sucks!
So you'd be happy for another vote on the subject?


Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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don4l said:
It isn't unexpected or independent.

Many of us joined UKIP and fought for this for many years.

The fact that we have made a killing on the stock markets is entirely down to our own perseverence and hard work.

The beauty is that not only have share prices risen recently, but dividend pay outs are also pretty good.

It's a win-win situation at the moment.

The fact that Remoaners are not sharing in the benefits is entirely your own fault.

If you look at the "No to the EU" thread you will see that I advised you to invest in the stock market at 7:45 am on the 24th of June.

Some of us are making money because we put our money where our mouths are.
How have you made a killing on the stockmarket? Which currency are you investments denominated in ?

andymadmak

14,559 posts

270 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Fittster said:
don4l said:
You do know how elections work, don't you?

The PM thinks that you are right. That must be excellent news.

However, she is implementing my wishes.

It just isn't fair, is it?

Democracy sucks!
So you'd be happy for another vote on the subject?
I can't speak for Don, but I personally would be confident that another vote would produce an even bigger majority for exit, so from THAT standpoint I would be happy. However, what grounds would you be putting forward that would justify another vote so soon after the last one?

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