The economic consequences of Brexit

The economic consequences of Brexit

Poll: The economic consequences of Brexit

Total Members Polled: 732

Far worse off than EU countries.: 15%
A bit worse off than if we'd stayed in.: 35%
A bit better off than if we'd stayed in.: 41%
Roughly as rich as the Swiss.: 10%
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PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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don4l said:
The fact that Remoaners are not sharing in the benefits is entirely your own fault.
Why do you feel the need to always use a derogatory term when referring to people who would prefer to stay in the EU?

You think that everyone should pull together to make the best of the future yet you insult millions of those people with almost every post.

Countdown

39,866 posts

196 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Fittster said:
powerstroke said:
Fittster said:
powerstroke said:
Brexit if its done right without sucking up to the EU will be the making of this country.....
How will reducing GDP be the making of this country?
Why do you think that ??? free of stifeling bureaucracy we will trade with a big wide world I think GDP will increase ....
Which mainstream economist believes brexit will lead to an increase in GDP?
Because we'll be taking our country back. What more proof do you need? wink

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Countdown said:
Fittster said:
powerstroke said:
Fittster said:
powerstroke said:
Brexit if its done right without sucking up to the EU will be the making of this country.....
How will reducing GDP be the making of this country?
Why do you think that ??? free of stifeling bureaucracy we will trade with a big wide world I think GDP will increase ....
Which mainstream economist believes brexit will lead to an increase in GDP?
Because we'll be taking our country back. What more proof do you need? wink
£350 million a week for the NHS wink

Countdown

39,866 posts

196 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Fittster said:
£350 million a week for the NHS wink
Oh, at least... and once we've left the EU will be bending over backwards to do a deal....

(Methinks they WILL do a deal but it will be along the lines of "There's the deal, and if you don't like it eff off... at which point we'll be told by the Brexiteers that we're FAR better off outside the EU, we don't need them anyway etc etc....]

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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PurpleMoonlight said:
don4l said:
The fact that Remoaners are not sharing in the benefits is entirely your own fault.
Why do you feel the need to always use a derogatory term when referring to people who would prefer to stay in the EU?

You think that everyone should pull together to make the best of the future yet you insult millions of those people with almost every post.
Secret "Antidote" to the "racist" and "thick" accusations from those that voted for remain

I've forgotten - how did you vote?? /joke

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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B'stard Child said:
I've forgotten - how did you vote?? /joke
For neither so you can't blame me regardless of what happens.

wink

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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PurpleMoonlight said:
B'stard Child said:
I've forgotten - how did you vote?? /joke
For neither so you can't blame me regardless of what happens.

wink
So that was your plan biggrinthumbup

don'tbesilly

13,933 posts

163 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Mrr T said:
Only the GGN (Great God Nigel) could turn up at the EU parliament and demonstrate again how little he knows about the EU and trade. Its a national embarrassment. I am sure the EU leaders are laughing out loud.

Let me explain a trade agreement is not the same as the single market. Can I recommend you start reading euferendum.com to gain some incite.

Most importantly no EU trade agreement covers financial services.
I tried to explain that last weekend, even posted links to help, but leavers really aren't interested in hearing it.
For someone who wasn't bothered prior to the 23rd June and on the 23rd June whether we were members of the EU or not that was very considerate of you, thanks.

You obviously know your stuff which is clear from your posts, so I'll assume you read all the links you posted so shouldn't have to much trouble with the questions:

What does a Trade Agreement between a country and the EU provide any country that agrees such? Is it in way similar to access to the single market? (see below)
What significant difference, good/bad is there between a trade agreement with the EU and access to the single market?
What significant difference,good/bad is there between a trade agreement with the EU and being a member of the single market?

For clarity the questions exclude financial services.

For max points:

What has May stated as being Team leaves preferred route to doing a deal on trade with the EU?

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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More good news?

"The head of the World Trade Organisation has vowed to ensure Britain will not face a trade "vacuum or a disruption", however tough its exit from the European Union."

http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-will-not-cause-uk...

don'tbesilly

13,933 posts

163 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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alfie2244 said:
More good news?

"The head of the World Trade Organisation has vowed to ensure Britain will not face a trade "vacuum or a disruption", however tough its exit from the European Union."

http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-will-not-cause-uk...
It's amazing how they all start to cave in when reality starts to dawn.

May should fire off the resignation letter for A50 next Monday night, we'll get 5 months back, which means the NHS will get the 350m pw, 5 months earlier laugh

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Fittster said:
powerstroke said:
Fittster said:
powerstroke said:
Brexit if its done right without sucking up to the EU will be the making of this country.....
How will reducing GDP be the making of this country?
Why do you think that ??? free of stifeling bureaucracy we will trade with a big wide world I think GDP will increase ....
Which mainstream economist believes brexit will lead to an increase in GDP?
What mainstream economist has ever predicted the future accurately , banking crash etc anyone !!!

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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alfie2244 said:
More good news?

"The head of the World Trade Organisation has vowed to ensure Britain will not face a trade "vacuum or a disruption", however tough its exit from the European Union."

http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-will-not-cause-uk...
Only the gravy train wants vengence the rest of humainty just wants to trade and improve peoples lives
The sooner the EU is dismantled the better for everyone,
I hope Our friends in the rest of europe give it a kicking too ...

Digga

40,317 posts

283 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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powerstroke said:
Fittster said:
powerstroke said:
Fittster said:
powerstroke said:
Brexit if its done right without sucking up to the EU will be the making of this country.....
How will reducing GDP be the making of this country?
Why do you think that ??? free of stifeling bureaucracy we will trade with a big wide world I think GDP will increase ....
Which mainstream economist believes brexit will lead to an increase in GDP?
What mainstream economist has ever predicted the future accurately , banking crash etc anyone !!!
^This. The establishment groupthink around Brexit - the total lack of contingency planning - is parallel the the exit of sterling from the ERM.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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FN2TypeR said:
We had an intern working with us who was from South Korea and funnily enough he was borderline addicted to FnC. Tartare sauce too (French origin perhaps?) he loved that stuff, used to eat it with just about everything he had! hehe
A man after my own heart, I don't have it on dog though, dog is much tastier with a Dalmatian sauce.

BTW, the clue to the origin is in the name...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

107 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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B'stard Child said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
don4l said:
The fact that Remoaners are not sharing in the benefits is entirely your own fault.
Why do you feel the need to always use a derogatory term when referring to people who would prefer to stay in the EU?

You think that everyone should pull together to make the best of the future yet you insult millions of those people with almost every post.
Secret "Antidote" to the "racist" and "thick" accusations from those that voted for remain
Surely what you are really saying is that you tacitly agree that a large portion of those that voted leave were racist and thick red top readers. You are just taking exception to the fact that you have made a vote with conscious thought no doubt for your own non-racist, non-thick reasons and that's admirable. Nobody likes to be tarred with the same brush as racists and thick people. I'd love to see the vote devoid of racist motivations to leave. I would hazard a guess that we would be remaining. In fact I'm certain we would be. So, your victory as it seems to be, has been swept through the door by racist thick people.

catso

14,787 posts

267 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Why do you feel the need to always use a derogatory term when referring to people who would prefer to stay in the EU?

You think that everyone should pull together to make the best of the future yet you insult millions of those people with almost every post.
Indeed it is very tiresome and childish regardless of which group is doing it. Personally name calling doesn't offend me in the slightest but many people are more sensitive and no-one's helping their cause by offending half the population in every post.

Still it takes all sorts...

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Trophy Husband said:
B'stard Child said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
don4l said:
The fact that Remoaners are not sharing in the benefits is entirely your own fault.
Why do you feel the need to always use a derogatory term when referring to people who would prefer to stay in the EU?

You think that everyone should pull together to make the best of the future yet you insult millions of those people with almost every post.
Secret "Antidote" to the "racist" and "thick" accusations from those that voted for remain
Surely what you are really saying is that you tacitly agree that a large portion of those that voted leave were racist and thick red top readers. You are just taking exception to the fact that you have made a vote with conscious thought no doubt for your own non-racist, non-thick reasons and that's admirable.
Nope what I'm saying is fairly clear - most PH'rs on here that voted to leave are fairly pissed of with the constant diatribe of those that voted remain accusing them of being

- Racist
- Xenophobic
- Thick
- Bigotted
- Believing what was written on the side of a big red bus

There is no agreement with those views

There is an acknowledgement that some voters may have voted due to one or more of the above

Trophy Husband said:
Nobody likes to be tarred with the same brush as racists and thick people. I'd love to see the vote devoid of racist motivations to leave. I would hazard a guess that we would be remaining. In fact I'm certain we would be. So, your victory as it seems to be, has been swept through the door by racist thick people.
Just as I would like to see a vote devoid of remain voters who voted for remain due to the "promise" of financial meltdown, economic Armageddon, Austerity budgets, Petrol prices rising, interest rates sky rocketing and a plague of locusts

Sorry had to strikeout the last one - they didn't use it - I really thought they would because they'd used damn near everything but that

I think the vote would have been more leave

So your remain loss would be a greater margin

Those are my thoughts - you are entitled to yours

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Trophy Husband said:
B'stard Child said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
don4l said:
The fact that Remoaners are not sharing in the benefits is entirely your own fault.
Why do you feel the need to always use a derogatory term when referring to people who would prefer to stay in the EU?

You think that everyone should pull together to make the best of the future yet you insult millions of those people with almost every post.
Secret "Antidote" to the "racist" and "thick" accusations from those that voted for remain
Surely what you are really saying is that you tacitly agree that a large portion of those that voted leave were racist and thick red top readers. You are just taking exception to the fact that you have made a vote with conscious thought no doubt for your own non-racist, non-thick reasons and that's admirable. Nobody likes to be tarred with the same brush as racists and thick people. I'd love to see the vote devoid of racist motivations to leave. I would hazard a guess that we would be remaining. In fact I'm certain we would be. So, your victory as it seems to be, has been swept through the door by racist thick people.
I'm not necessarily saying *you're* bigoted, but you're doing a fking good job of pretending.

And while I'm at it, thick people seem to make a lot of sweeping generalisations...

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Meh WW it appears I could have been more brief!!!

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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B'stard Child said:
Meh WW it appears I could have been more brief!!!
Concise, but accurate biggrin
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