The economic consequences of Brexit
Poll: The economic consequences of Brexit
Total Members Polled: 732
Discussion
PurpleMoonlight said:
IF the Government are going to support car exporters via the back door there are going to be a lot of other exporters who will cry foul if they also don't get similar support.
Could all get very messy and expensive.
Do you know for certain that money was promised?Could all get very messy and expensive.
Do you understand that "grants" have been going on for years to all sorts of industries.
There was a piece about Nissan on the local north east news, apparently the sunderland plant is one of the most productive in the world, not just Europe but the world, business hate's uncertainty, but is not there uncertainty in Europe, who knows where its heading after the UK leaves, remember we are one of the biggest contributors, along with rising nationalism things may change rapidly,
Over the last few years the UK has been one of the few countries in the EU with rising car sales, any locally produced product will have a price advantage due to the exchange rate, with this backdrop would you take the risk of moving?
don4l is correct, this is the funniest thread on ph at the moment. please note my last post was not a dig at people that voted remain, but the so called "experts" that predicted the doom and gloom.watching or listening to some, i actually felt they did not even believe what they were saying themselves, but held the general public in such low regard along with an over inflated opinion of themselves , thought they could get away with it.
regardless of the political situation i am sure most people realise no one really knows what the future holds and the nonsense trotted out by both sides in the lead up to the referendum was not worth paying attention to.
someone asked why vote leave.one reason was i saw no need to pay 50,000 plus bureaucrats in europe along with all their excesses over and above our own civil servants. the eu machine has failed the people of europe big time and it is hard for me to accept that self aggrandisement was not the main concern of all that have been involved.
regarding any deal may has promised nissan and people complaining of corporate subsidy. despite all the talk of how much we spend on the feckless benefits class of people, corporate subsidy in the uk, and indeed the developed western world has always been a far greater sum . green energy subsidies being a point in case. i would much rather we do all we can to keep people productive , employed and paying tax. now we are leaving the eu we can choose exactly how we do that.
regardless of the political situation i am sure most people realise no one really knows what the future holds and the nonsense trotted out by both sides in the lead up to the referendum was not worth paying attention to.
someone asked why vote leave.one reason was i saw no need to pay 50,000 plus bureaucrats in europe along with all their excesses over and above our own civil servants. the eu machine has failed the people of europe big time and it is hard for me to accept that self aggrandisement was not the main concern of all that have been involved.
regarding any deal may has promised nissan and people complaining of corporate subsidy. despite all the talk of how much we spend on the feckless benefits class of people, corporate subsidy in the uk, and indeed the developed western world has always been a far greater sum . green energy subsidies being a point in case. i would much rather we do all we can to keep people productive , employed and paying tax. now we are leaving the eu we can choose exactly how we do that.
PurpleMoonlight said:
Where do I mention money?
My point is that there is more to the UK export economy than cars.
Things could get expensive, usually relates to money.My point is that there is more to the UK export economy than cars.
A few people on here were warning of the consequences of the loss of part of the car production in this country as it's a major employer.
Trabi601 said:
Garvin said:
Give over will you. BMW have been working overtime to re-compete with Jaguar of late. If the price differential twixt Jaguar and BMW increases in the Jags favour then it would be a personal decision to stump up the extra and not based on VFM. I suspect, however, than BMW daren't increase their prices significantly.
There's still a significant quality and technology gap. And the Ingenium diesel is still not as good as the BMW 20d.But this isn't the place for this discussion!
wc98 said:
don4l is correct, this is the funniest thread on ph at the moment. please note my last post was not a dig at people that voted remain, but the so called "experts" that predicted the doom and gloom.watching or listening to some, i actually felt they did not even believe what they were saying themselves, but held the general public in such low regard along with an over inflated opinion of themselves , thought they could get away with it.
regardless of the political situation i am sure most people realise no one really knows what the future holds and the nonsense trotted out by both sides in the lead up to the referendum was not worth paying attention to.
someone asked why vote leave.one reason was i saw no need to pay 50,000 plus bureaucrats in europe along with all their excesses over and above our own civil servants. the eu machine has failed the people of europe big time and it is hard for me to accept that self aggrandisement was not the main concern of all that have been involved.
regarding any deal may has promised nissan and people complaining of corporate subsidy. despite all the talk of how much we spend on the feckless benefits class of people, corporate subsidy in the uk, and indeed the developed western world has always been a far greater sum . green energy subsidies being a point in case. i would much rather we do all we can to keep people productive , employed and paying tax. now we are leaving the eu we can choose exactly how we do that.
I get the impression that some posters here are actually disappointed that the UK hasn't crashed and burned since the vote to Brexit. They are still preparing their 'I told you so' banners to unfurl and wave around if things don't go well. In the meantime any good news is belittled. These people are not the future of UK, they are the sort of people who would stand around on a sinking ship and instead of doing all they can to prevent it sinking and even saving their own lives just moan and complain and satisfy themselves that their headstones will have "it wasn't my fault" written on them.regardless of the political situation i am sure most people realise no one really knows what the future holds and the nonsense trotted out by both sides in the lead up to the referendum was not worth paying attention to.
someone asked why vote leave.one reason was i saw no need to pay 50,000 plus bureaucrats in europe along with all their excesses over and above our own civil servants. the eu machine has failed the people of europe big time and it is hard for me to accept that self aggrandisement was not the main concern of all that have been involved.
regarding any deal may has promised nissan and people complaining of corporate subsidy. despite all the talk of how much we spend on the feckless benefits class of people, corporate subsidy in the uk, and indeed the developed western world has always been a far greater sum . green energy subsidies being a point in case. i would much rather we do all we can to keep people productive , employed and paying tax. now we are leaving the eu we can choose exactly how we do that.
Garvin said:
I get the impression that some posters here are actually disappointed that the UK hasn't crashed and burned since the vote to Brexit. They are still preparing their 'I told you so' banners to unfurl and wave around if things don't go well. In the meantime any good news is belittled. These people are not the future of UK, they are the sort of people who would stand around on a sinking ship and instead of doing all they can to prevent it sinking and even saving their own lives just moan and complain and satisfy themselves that their headstones will have "it wasn't my fault" written on them.
///ajd stated on a different Brexit thread that "I can't wait to say I told you so"Garvin said:
I get the impression that some posters here are actually disappointed that the UK hasn't crashed and burned since the vote to Brexit. They are still preparing their 'I told you so' banners to unfurl and wave around if things don't go well. In the meantime any good news is belittled. These people are not the future of UK, they are the sort of people who would stand around on a sinking ship and instead of doing all they can to prevent it sinking and even saving their own lives just moan and complain and satisfy themselves that their headstones will have "it wasn't my fault" written on them.
What do you suggest people should do and why are under the impression that Uk citizens want the country to fail?Ghibli said:
Garvin said:
I get the impression that some posters here are actually disappointed that the UK hasn't crashed and burned since the vote to Brexit. They are still preparing their 'I told you so' banners to unfurl and wave around if things don't go well. In the meantime any good news is belittled. These people are not the future of UK, they are the sort of people who would stand around on a sinking ship and instead of doing all they can to prevent it sinking and even saving their own lives just moan and complain and satisfy themselves that their headstones will have "it wasn't my fault" written on them.
What do you suggest people should do and why are under the impression that Uk citizens want the country to fail?2. Stop gobbling off
3. Change bedsheets
4. Enjoy fewer immigrants
5. Eat, drink and smoke - the new found wealth in the NHS will ensure good care
Ghibli said:
Garvin said:
I get the impression that some posters here are actually disappointed that the UK hasn't crashed and burned since the vote to Brexit. They are still preparing their 'I told you so' banners to unfurl and wave around if things don't go well. In the meantime any good news is belittled. These people are not the future of UK, they are the sort of people who would stand around on a sinking ship and instead of doing all they can to prevent it sinking and even saving their own lives just moan and complain and satisfy themselves that their headstones will have "it wasn't my fault" written on them.
What do you suggest people should do and why are under the impression that Uk citizens want the country to fail?I do not believe all UK citizens want the country to fail and I did not say this. I said some posters here by the content of their posts give me the impression that they want the country to fail probably because they are upset/frightened/petrified by change, want no impact on their current life style and being proved right is more important to them than being part of any success story. To me, they are very sad people indeed who, by their own inaction, lethargy and bitterness will just be left behind as so much flotsam and jetsam.
Jockman said:
loafer123 said:
I do not get why you think the WTO issue is complex.
We simply will become members of the WTO like the US or China, instead of having the EU acting as our agent.
When you made this a big issue before, saying the UK wasn't a member, I simply went onto their website and the position was instantly clear.
I >think< the consternation was over people's belief that we were already Members in our own right.We simply will become members of the WTO like the US or China, instead of having the EU acting as our agent.
When you made this a big issue before, saying the UK wasn't a member, I simply went onto their website and the position was instantly clear.
https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/countries_e/u...
FN2TypeR said:
bmw535i said:
1. Accept we're leaving
2. Stop gobbling off
3. Change bedsheets
4. Enjoy fewer immigrants
5. Eat, drink and smoke - the new found wealth in the NHS will ensure good care
How would I go about #4 out of interest?2. Stop gobbling off
3. Change bedsheets
4. Enjoy fewer immigrants
5. Eat, drink and smoke - the new found wealth in the NHS will ensure good care
The Poles looking to leave the UK after Brexit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37787008
bmw535i said:
FN2TypeR said:
bmw535i said:
1. Accept we're leaving
2. Stop gobbling off
3. Change bedsheets
4. Enjoy fewer immigrants
5. Eat, drink and smoke - the new found wealth in the NHS will ensure good care
How would I go about #4 out of interest?2. Stop gobbling off
3. Change bedsheets
4. Enjoy fewer immigrants
5. Eat, drink and smoke - the new found wealth in the NHS will ensure good care
The Poles looking to leave the UK after Brexit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37787008
And leavers question why certain crimes are up.
///ajd said:
And leavers question why certain crimes are up.
Yes. It is a very, very regrettable side effect. I mean we're not talking epidemic, but rather that a few more of that tiny, tiny minority of mouth-breathing idiots who think the human race is not of common lineage have been emboldened to vent their petty ignorance on some poor, unsuspecting individual.The other side of the coin is that some European immigrants think Brexit meant we were wanting to kick them all out, pronto. So I think there was a widespread misunderstanding of what the referendum was actually about.
I think this was my favourite story on the issue: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36580448/wel...
///ajd said:
bmw535i said:
FN2TypeR said:
bmw535i said:
1. Accept we're leaving
2. Stop gobbling off
3. Change bedsheets
4. Enjoy fewer immigrants
5. Eat, drink and smoke - the new found wealth in the NHS will ensure good care
How would I go about #4 out of interest?2. Stop gobbling off
3. Change bedsheets
4. Enjoy fewer immigrants
5. Eat, drink and smoke - the new found wealth in the NHS will ensure good care
The Poles looking to leave the UK after Brexit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37787008
And leavers question why certain crimes are up.
You bite every time don't you?
Hey, I'm happy to oblige your prejudiced views of leavers if it makes you feel better.
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