The economic consequences of Brexit
Poll: The economic consequences of Brexit
Total Members Polled: 732
Discussion
London424 said:
REALIST123 said:
.....and the EU is taking legal action against 6 of its members and the UK because they didn't take legal action against VW over the emissions 'scandal'.
Never mind that current legal action has already cost 10s of thousands of jobs. Got to stick to the EU rules.
Certifiable, the lot of them.
Well no, we can already predict the outcome. 6 members = all fine, carry on. UK = give us lots of money. Never mind that current legal action has already cost 10s of thousands of jobs. Got to stick to the EU rules.
Certifiable, the lot of them.
AJL308 said:
Tonberry said:
Tax Haven status as a potential post Brexit advantage?
I thought the Leave vote was to get rid of the establishment and make the less well off relevant again.
My leave vote was about Sovereignty - I don't want the UK ending up as part of a Federal state of Europe. Everything else was secondary. I thought the Leave vote was to get rid of the establishment and make the less well off relevant again.
My mind was made up in 1992 with the end of the EEC and creation of the EU.
AJL308 said:
My leave vote was about Sovereignty - I don't want the UK ending up as part of a Federal state of Europe. Everything else was secondary.
Another one here. Didn't want to be voting in General Elections for the rest of my life, full in the knowledge that it'd be a waste of time.
I was a late decider. But in the end I voted out. My reasons were primarily down to a combination of sovereignty and the fact that as far as I can see the EU has wilfully condemned a whole generation of Southern European youth to a life of misery - and all so that the mighty Euro project can survive. Any club that is willing to sacrifice it's young people on the alter of a political project is not a club I want my country to be a part of.
Immigration did flicker on my radar, but only on a very minor level. Essentially I just wanted to Uk to be able to say who comes in and from where and for what reason. And I want that to be from all over the world. I don't doubt that thousands of Europeans come here and make a good go of it, but that is not the point.
Lastly, (and as I write this I can already predict how some will react) a further minor consideration was just how some people reacted to the tragic murder of Jo Cox. Posters on PH who tried to link those favouring an exit vote to her murder were bad enough, but reading the thoroughly nauseating bilge from the likes of Toynbee in the Guardian was the final nail in the Remain coffin for me. Being told that having an alternate view makes me complicit in the murder of a young mum by a nutter with clear mental health issues was not only deeply insulting, but it also showed just how desperate the metropolitan elite was to maintain it's comfy world. Nothing was beyond sullying. It made me very angry indeed and I felt that I did not want to remain a part of club that suckled and nurtured those kinds of opinions and attitudes.
Immigration did flicker on my radar, but only on a very minor level. Essentially I just wanted to Uk to be able to say who comes in and from where and for what reason. And I want that to be from all over the world. I don't doubt that thousands of Europeans come here and make a good go of it, but that is not the point.
Lastly, (and as I write this I can already predict how some will react) a further minor consideration was just how some people reacted to the tragic murder of Jo Cox. Posters on PH who tried to link those favouring an exit vote to her murder were bad enough, but reading the thoroughly nauseating bilge from the likes of Toynbee in the Guardian was the final nail in the Remain coffin for me. Being told that having an alternate view makes me complicit in the murder of a young mum by a nutter with clear mental health issues was not only deeply insulting, but it also showed just how desperate the metropolitan elite was to maintain it's comfy world. Nothing was beyond sullying. It made me very angry indeed and I felt that I did not want to remain a part of club that suckled and nurtured those kinds of opinions and attitudes.
I didn't vote as I have no particular preference for being either in or out, and I did not find the arguments by either side particularly compelling enough to warrant me choosing one. I do however have an interest in what is happening now and what the consequences are going to be.
Sadly a few people here have significant issue with this and appear to be unable to get past the 'must be for or against' binary mentality. They are all leave voters I believe.
Sadly a few people here have significant issue with this and appear to be unable to get past the 'must be for or against' binary mentality. They are all leave voters I believe.
PurpleMoonlight said:
Sadly a few people here have significant issue with this and appear to be unable to get past the 'must be for or against' binary mentality. They are all leave voters I believe.
I think if you were to attack the Remain side as assiduously as you attack those on the exit side then you might attract more criticism from Remain voters for your decision not to vote at all. You seem hell bent on critiquing those who had the balls to do something that you were either unwilling or couldn't be bothered to do. It's not really a surprise then that people question your sudden interest, now is it?
Jockman said:
Tonberry said:
Tax Haven status as a potential post Brexit advantage?
I thought the Leave vote was to get rid of the establishment and make the less well off relevant again.
Yup. By supporting their favourite restaurant. I thought the Leave vote was to get rid of the establishment and make the less well off relevant again.
Mine too
(do they serve a nice red in those places here yet?) Tonberry - encouraging businesses here is quite probably the best way to help the less well off become better off. Fixation over a notional %age you think they may pay in tax is not.
PurpleMoonlight said:
I do however have an interest in what is happening now and what the consequences are going to be.
No.If you didn't vote then you are no longer allowed an opinion.
Any opinion you do claim to have is worthless and should be ignored.
Any argument you put forward, regardless of merit, should also be ignored.
Do keep up!!
PurpleMoonlight said:
walm said:
No.
If you didn't vote then you are no longer allowed an opinion.
Any opinion you do claim to have is worthless and should be ignored.
Any argument you put forward, regardless of merit, should also be ignored.
Do keep up!!
Reminds me of my marriage ....If you didn't vote then you are no longer allowed an opinion.
Any opinion you do claim to have is worthless and should be ignored.
Any argument you put forward, regardless of merit, should also be ignored.
Do keep up!!
walm said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
I do however have an interest in what is happening now and what the consequences are going to be.
No.If you didn't vote then you are no longer allowed an opinion.
Any opinion you do claim to have is worthless and should be ignored.
Any argument you put forward, regardless of merit, should also be ignored.
Do keep up!!
I had an interest in a documentary I watched a while back about some big fight back in ancient times. I didn't have an opinion on it either way but it was interesting.
AJL308 said:
walm said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
I do however have an interest in what is happening now and what the consequences are going to be.
No.If you didn't vote then you are no longer allowed an opinion.
Any opinion you do claim to have is worthless and should be ignored.
Any argument you put forward, regardless of merit, should also be ignored.
Do keep up!!
I had an interest in a documentary I watched a while back about some big fight back in ancient times. I didn't have an opinion on it either way but it was interesting.
I was really reacting to t
ttish ad hominem attacks that PM has suffered throughout this thread such as this one:don'tbesilly said:
That's a very strong opinion from someone who doesn't care either way and DIDN'T vote.
You're right it wasn't a second hand car deal, or the terms of a few trains, it involves the lives of millions of people, but NOT you apparently.
Why didn't you vote for something you are now demanding?
If you had bothered to make a conviction either way you might have a valid point.
What right do you now have for demanding anything?
You don't care either way and said so on the 23rd September.
You're right it wasn't a second hand car deal, or the terms of a few trains, it involves the lives of millions of people, but NOT you apparently.
Why didn't you vote for something you are now demanding?
If you had bothered to make a conviction either way you might have a valid point.
What right do you now have for demanding anything?
You don't care either way and said so on the 23rd September.
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