Farage in Brussels - a national embarrassment
Discussion
NickGibbs said:
We need to play nice to persuade the EU to give us (some of us) what they don't want to give us (free trade, restricted movement of people) and our opening salvo is from Farage on one of his rare moments he turns up.
His opening gambit? "Most of you have never held proper jobs".
Opening gambit?.............Ignoring the comments aimed at him, the booing, heckling etc...accused of "Nazi propaganda" that's ok though is it?His opening gambit? "Most of you have never held proper jobs".
alfie2244 said:
NickGibbs said:
We need to play nice to persuade the EU to give us (some of us) what they don't want to give us (free trade, restricted movement of people) and our opening salvo is from Farage on one of his rare moments he turns up.
His opening gambit? "Most of you have never held proper jobs".
Opening gambit?.............Ignoring the comments aimed at him, the booing, heckling etc...accused of "Nazi propaganda" that's ok though is it?His opening gambit? "Most of you have never held proper jobs".
InfiniteVoltage said:
Just watching one of the most arrogant individuals ever to be voted in to a position within British politics put forward a shameful perceived position of the british public.
Total disgrace.
I agree, but as a point of order he's never been voted into any position within British politics and he's tried and tried but failed to ever get a seat ay Westminster - because he's a massive tool and you can't hide the fact.Total disgrace.
He managed to get a job as an MEP because of the vagaries of the PR system for voting MEPs and because no one took the euro elections seriously. Nick Griffin was an MEP for a while too.
gooner1 said:
On that subject, does Juncker have the legal right/authority to ban informal talks being held?
Slightly strange position from someone that claims to want a speedy resolution, imo.
Presumably as President of the European Commission and a key contact for any discussions if he says "no informal discussions" then there will be none, at least with him. Could he ban formal talks? No of course not but any formal talks would be seen as starting the clock for Article 50.Slightly strange position from someone that claims to want a speedy resolution, imo.
zbc said:
Presumably as President of the European Commission and a key contact for any discussions if he says "no informal discussions" then there will be none, at least with him. Could he ban formal talks? No of course not but any formal talks would be seen as starting the clock for Article 50.
Which is what he claims to want.
FredClogs said:
I agree, but as a point of order he's never been voted into any position within British politics and he's tried and tried but failed to ever get a seat ay Westminster - because he's a massive tool and you can't hide the fact.
He managed to get a job as an MEP because of the vagaries of the PR system for voting MEPs and because no one took the euro elections seriously. Nick Griffin was an MEP for a while too.
You could easily argue all at the EU are superfluous.He managed to get a job as an MEP because of the vagaries of the PR system for voting MEPs and because no one took the euro elections seriously. Nick Griffin was an MEP for a while too.
Sam All said:
FredClogs said:
I agree, but as a point of order he's never been voted into any position within British politics and he's tried and tried but failed to ever get a seat ay Westminster - because he's a massive tool and you can't hide the fact.
He managed to get a job as an MEP because of the vagaries of the PR system for voting MEPs and because no one took the euro elections seriously. Nick Griffin was an MEP for a while too.
You could easily argue all at the EU are superfluous.He managed to get a job as an MEP because of the vagaries of the PR system for voting MEPs and because no one took the euro elections seriously. Nick Griffin was an MEP for a while too.
vonuber said:
alfie2244 said:
But I voted for him on the basis that he wouldn't attend unless he was causing them to squirm and this attendance assisted our exit.....so job well done IMO.
And you wonder why the UK's voice within the EU was diminished. Sam All said:
You could easily argue all at the EU are superfluous.
Sadly it's seems to be new 'liberal/left' view that they don't mind authoritarian if it happens to be the EU. Like the guy or not, his party has got far more electoral mandate than this corrupt anti-democratic institution.FredClogs said:
I agree, but as a point of order he's never been voted into any position within British politics and he's tried and tried but failed to ever get a seat ay Westminster - because he's a massive tool and you can't hide the fact.
Which makes his achievement all the more remarkable tbh.Is there ANYONE in the UK or Europe who thinks we'd have got the referendum AND voted out if we didn't have Nigel Farage?
That's not to say I'm his greatest fan btw, but he's been hugely influential. More so than anyone else in modern times.
sidicks said:
MDMetal said:
He's no racist but he's as slimey as Alex Salmond, how many times has he resigned or changed his mind now? The core problem is whatever his noble intensions the way he had to get here was to try and pull alot of racists slightly left enough to vote. I agree with the result but the sad fact is we arrived here by courting a lot of racists. It's a question of a lot of people agreeing with his views for the wrong reasons basically.
What an ignorant comment - how many of the 17m voters that supported Brexit do you think are racists?fido said:
Sam All said:
You could easily argue all at the EU are superfluous.
Sadly it's seems to be new 'liberal/left' view that they don't mind authoritarian if it happens to be the EU. Like the guy or not, his party has got far more electoral mandate than this corrupt anti-democratic institution.el stovey said:
sidicks said:
MDMetal said:
He's no racist but he's as slimey as Alex Salmond, how many times has he resigned or changed his mind now? The core problem is whatever his noble intensions the way he had to get here was to try and pull alot of racists slightly left enough to vote. I agree with the result but the sad fact is we arrived here by courting a lot of racists. It's a question of a lot of people agreeing with his views for the wrong reasons basically.
What an ignorant comment - how many of the 17m voters that supported Brexit do you think are racists?Tell me more
Why does he have to be so bloody offensive? The brexit negotiations need to be carried out with conciliatory good grace on both sides and I think we all know that this will not be the case. I've often enjoyed Farage, has had some brilliant moments in the chamber when he's been saying the right things in the right way, but I can't help but think that far too often this one man has set the stage for the EU to treat us in a fairly spiteful manner for the brexit negotiations.
This thread is entirely the reason Farage should not be involved in Brexit negotiations.
He may be a good politician (I personally don't agree I hasten to add) but he is not a good negotiator.
He is far too divisive to be an asset in any negotiations, not just with the EU but with the electorate.
He may be a good politician (I personally don't agree I hasten to add) but he is not a good negotiator.
He is far too divisive to be an asset in any negotiations, not just with the EU but with the electorate.
Balmoral said:
Why does he have to be so bloody offensive? The brexit negotiations need to be carried out with conciliatory good grace on both sides and I think we all know that this will not be the case. I've often enjoyed Farage, has had some brilliant moments in the chamber when he's been saying the right things in the right way, but I can't help but think that far too often this one man has set the stage for the EU to treat us in a fairly spiteful manner for the brexit negotiations.
I can see you point to some degree...he can rub people up the wrong way - challenging them often does - however without him there would be no Brexit full stop.You only have to watch our own HOC to see how utterly childish those that wish to rule us are... EU parliament is no better unfortunately.
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