Farage in Brussels - a national embarrassment

[TTwiggy]

dandarez said:

Boo bah boo bah boo hoo boo hoo...

I want a replay! It's not fair! I want a replay!

The ball wasn't round enough.

Come on, start a petition...

Iceland are a shop not a football term deserving of the result.

Demand a replay. NOW!
I call on all those in the huge IN pram to throw their toys out again. NOW!

Wrong thread. HTH

[Sylvaforever]

TTwiggy said:

Wrong thread. HTH

You could also have said play the ball not the man but it's all the same regurgitate bile anyway.

[dandarez]

TTwiggy said:

dandarez said:

Boo bah boo bah boo hoo boo hoo...

I want a replay! It's not fair! I want a replay!

The ball wasn't round enough.

Come on, start a petition...

Iceland are a shop not a football term deserving of the result.

Demand a replay. NOW!
I call on all those in the huge IN pram to throw their toys out again. NOW!

Wrong thread. HTH

That's the trouble now, too much choice.

[alfie2244]

TTwiggy said:

I can't speak for any remainer apart from myself, but any 'anger' I have is soley based on the possibility of our economy going down the swanny, taking my job, house and future with it. To say nothing of a gerneration who will barely live to see the ultimate ramifications of Brexit smugly happy with disenfranchising the generation who will have to bear the brunt of it and denying them access to free movement across the EU and the opportunities to study and work anywhere on the continent.

That all said, I respect the 'will of the people' and I m more dissapointed rather than bitter or angry.

I don't agree with your vision on where Brexit will ultimately lead but your are perfectly entitled to feel disappointed and concerned........ I honestly believe this is the right decision for my future generations and more people in the UK agree with me than you......who is right? Only time will tell - I'll admit if I am wrong in 10 yrs or so time and will have a lot of humble pie to eat and begging for forgiveness to do.....In the meantime many thanks for not shooting the messengers.

[RegMolehusband]

InfiniteVoltage said:

Just watching one of the most arrogant individuals ever to be voted in to a position within British politics put forward a shameful perceived position of the british public.

Total disgrace.

I haven't followed this thread, but I do have to say that quite a lot of people in the chamber were applauding his comments, including the more cutting ones. Were they UKIP MEPs or does he have wider appeal in there than we imagine?

[lostkiwi]

Sylvaforever said:

lostkiwi said:

alfie2244 said:

lostkiwi said:

If we had an employee with stats like that they would be sacked. No question.
Its either gross incompetence, gross negligence or gross misconduct.

Job very well done IMO... the clue is in the name UKIP and it's raison d'etre (i.e. Brexit)and would NOT have happened without him....... however the rather large lady hasn't sung yet so he may still have a bit of work to do.

So let me get this straight....
He was elected into the EU Parliament to vote on our behalf on matters important to us.
However he also was trying to get us out (with no mandate from the country at that time to do so as UKIP held 24/72 UK seats).
He failed to vote on more than 60% of occasions.
Then uses our lack of ability to get things changed as a reason for leaving the EU (even when he himself has been negligent in performing his duty in using his vote).
In spite of which we still managed to get our way more often than most other EU countries.

Can anyone else see the hypocrisy in all this?

And people STILL think he did a good job for Britain? If we hadn't voted Brexit would they still think that?

So we agree that the democratic mandate to leave the EU is now in place.

Well that's progress of sorts.

Don't think I've ever said otherwise.
Like many its not a result I'm happy with but its here. I seem to recall even suggesting how to implement it with minimal financial impact (which is more than I can say I've seen from any pro-Brexiters who seem content in the "everything will be ok in the end" or "everyone will fall over themselves to trade with us because we're Britain" mentality).

[popeyewhite]

RegMolehusband said:

I haven't folloedthis thread, but I do have to say that quite a lot of people in the chamber were applauding his comments, including the more cutting ones. Were they UKIP MEPs or does he have wider appeal in there than we imagine?

According to Radio2 they were all French Le Pen supporters. Didn't realise they had that many MEPs, lol.

[Blue62]

dandarez said:

Boo bah boo bah boo hoo boo hoo...

I want a replay! It's not fair! I want a replay!

The ball wasn't round enough.

Come on, start a petition...

Iceland are a shop not a football term deserving of the result.

Demand a replay. NOW!
I call on all those in the huge IN pram to throw their toys out again. NOW!

I have read some inane stuff on here over the years but that is quite possibly a new low. Shouldn't you be getting on with your schoolwork, or have they got you still working with shapes and water based paints?

[KrissKross]

lostkiwi said:

there is a clear moral obligation to represent the people of this country to 'do the right thing'

We have government by representation (and it equally applies to our EU politicians) where we elect them to represent us.

Doing the right thing, well its taken him a while but he has done, are you aware of the referendum results?

Our UK government was slowly becoming less accountable as the EU took more control, hence why its now all imploding. We might just end up with half decent government after all this.

[lostkiwi]

KrissKross said:

lostkiwi said:

there is a clear moral obligation to represent the people of this country to 'do the right thing'

We have government by representation (and it equally applies to our EU politicians) where we elect them to represent us.

Doing the right thing, well its taken him a while but he has done, are you aware of the referendum results?

Our UK government was slowly becoming less accountable as the EU took more control, hence why its now all imploding. We might just end up with half decent government after all this.

He never had a mandate to remove us from the EU. Thats my point.
Whilst he he has done it it wasn't why he was there.

[danllama]

Kermit power said:

danllama said:

All this discussion about migrants vs refugess is really missing the point.

The poster ILLUSTRATES the EU's FAILURE to deal with the crisis at hand, and over a prolonged period. To this day, in fact. Surely this is something that the citizens of the EU should have been able to trust them to handle??

That is the point.

At what cost?

I'm sure we could stop every single migrant from setting foot on European soil, but what would it take to do that in terms of manpower and equipment? At what point do you reach a degree of migration which is cheaper to the taxpayer than it would be to reduce it further?

Well, there must be a reasonable and cost effective middle ground between none at all and "all of you are welcome, please come".

[alfie2244]

Not seen this before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulkh10sSmVE

[Phud]

lostkiwi said:

He never had a mandate to remove us from the EU. Thats my point.
Whilst he he has done it it wasn't why he was there.

He was not part of the official leave campaign so how do you get to your point?

He stood as an MEP and delivered what he stood for, are you saying that he should not have done what he said?

[lostkiwi]

Phud said:

lostkiwi said:

He never had a mandate to remove us from the EU. Thats my point.
Whilst he he has done it it wasn't why he was there.

He was not part of the official leave campaign so how do you get to your point?

He stood as an MEP and delivered what he stood for, are you saying that he should not have done what he said?

Read Kermit Power's post above.
That explains it.

[mikal83]

Blue62 said:

dandarez said:

Boo bah boo bah boo hoo boo hoo...

I want a replay! It's not fair! I want a replay!

The ball wasn't round enough.

Come on, start a petition...

Iceland are a shop not a football term deserving of the result.

Demand a replay. NOW!
I call on all those in the huge IN pram to throw their toys out again. NOW!

I have read some inane stuff on here over the years but that is quite possibly a new low. Shouldn't you be getting on with your schoolwork, or have they got you still working with shapes and water based paints?

Let it go, let it go, let it go.

[sidicks]

lostkiwi said:

He never had a mandate to remove us from the EU. Thats my point.
Whilst he he has done it it wasn't why he was there.

Why did people vote for him as their MEP?

[lostkiwi]

sidicks said:

lostkiwi said:

He never had a mandate to remove us from the EU. Thats my point.
Whilst he he has done it it wasn't why he was there.

Why did people vote for him as their MEP?

fk knows!

[tarnished]

Kermit power said:

tarnished said:

lostkiwi said:

We elected him (as a country as I never would have personally) to represent us in the EU - a task he appears to have been woefully negligent in performing.

Not to represent us in the EU, to get us out of the EU. There's a clue in the party name. A task he's done remarkably well at by any measure.

Once an MP or MEP is elected to office, they have a duty to represent their ALL of their constituents to the best of their abilities, whether they agree with them or not.

You wouldn't accept it if your MP told you he didn't have time to help you on a constituency matter or participate in parliamentary debates because he was busy focusing on a single issue of strategy, and it shouldn't have been acceptable for Farage either.

That he delivered on a single issue for the people who voted for him is beyond question, but so is the fact that he failed to provide proper representation for his electorate as a whole on day to day issues in Europe. If he wanted to focus all his efforts on getting the UK out of Europe, then he should've done that, rather than putting himself forwards as an MEP.

He did that by putting himself forwards as an MEP, to the good of all his constituents.

[alfie2244]

lostkiwi said:

sidicks said:

lostkiwi said:

He never had a mandate to remove us from the EU. Thats my point.
Whilst he he has done it it wasn't why he was there.

Why did people vote for him as their MEP?

fk knows!

To achieve Brexit - which was achieved more thanks to him than anybody else. HTH

[sidicks]

lostkiwi said:

fk knows!

You clearly don't which explains why you're talking nonsense!