Do we have to leave the EU a QC says no
Discussion
The QC is correct.
Democracy is more than just totting up numbers. The Nazis loved using referenda, principally because it is quite easy to whip up nationalist fervour for one vote.
Referenda are the device of "demagogues and dictators" - a phrase borrowed by Margaret Thatcher no less.
This is not over.
Democracy is more than just totting up numbers. The Nazis loved using referenda, principally because it is quite easy to whip up nationalist fervour for one vote.
Referenda are the device of "demagogues and dictators" - a phrase borrowed by Margaret Thatcher no less.
This is not over.
EnglishTony said:
markh1973 said:
In what way did all citizens of voting age not have the opportunity to vote?
For example I am a British national, born and bred but as I haven't lived in the UK for over 15 years I was barred from voting in the referendum.My brother in Australia, with dual nationality, voted though as he's only been there for 12 years.
Mind you he probably wouldn't have voted as he's only 20 so is unlikely to even remember living here.
AlecT said:
Jimboka said:
The majority of MPs are remain. They should do their job & govern. IE rip up the X factor vote, that was swayed by outright self confessed lies from the Clueless Brexit lot..
exactly!Different situation now, when the majority of MPs will be hoping to be re-elected by pro-Brexit voters.
Especially if there's to be a GE in the near future.
Jimboka said:
The majority of MPs are remain. They should do their job & govern. IE rip up the X factor vote, that was swayed by outright self confessed lies from the Clueless Brexit lot..
Absolutely this; time for the politicians to show some backbone and say "Actually, no. Parliament will decide this, as per our country's constitution. If you don't like our decision, you are welcome to vote us out of office in May 2020"lostkiwi said:
EnglishTony said:
markh1973 said:
In what way did all citizens of voting age not have the opportunity to vote?
For example I am a British national, born and bred but as I haven't lived in the UK for over 15 years I was barred from voting in the referendum.My brother in Australia, with dual nationality, voted though as he's only been there for 12 years.
Mind you he probably wouldn't have voted as he's only 20 so is unlikely to even remember living here.
Puggit said:
lostkiwi said:
EnglishTony said:
markh1973 said:
In what way did all citizens of voting age not have the opportunity to vote?
For example I am a British national, born and bred but as I haven't lived in the UK for over 15 years I was barred from voting in the referendum.My brother in Australia, with dual nationality, voted though as he's only been there for 12 years.
Mind you he probably wouldn't have voted as he's only 20 so is unlikely to even remember living here.
ClaphamGT3 said:
Absolutely this; time for the politicians to show some backbone and say "Actually, no. Parliament will decide this, as per our country's constitution. If you don't like our decision, you are welcome to vote us out of office in May 2020"
Thus losing the last ounce of credibility our democracy has. Political suicide for all involved. lostkiwi said:
Puggit said:
lostkiwi said:
EnglishTony said:
markh1973 said:
In what way did all citizens of voting age not have the opportunity to vote?
For example I am a British national, born and bred but as I haven't lived in the UK for over 15 years I was barred from voting in the referendum.My brother in Australia, with dual nationality, voted though as he's only been there for 12 years.
Mind you he probably wouldn't have voted as he's only 20 so is unlikely to even remember living here.
Oh, that'd be great! Oops EU, we were wrong, our electorate are fools and we want to stay. Can we just make like it never happened? Sorryio... lol, wink, hehe, titter etc
What a nation of f
king arris' we'd look then! They'd have us by the short 'n curly's!
Grow some fking gonads, we're here, we need to deal with it and show some strength! People fking whinging all the time make us look like retards.
What a nation of f
king arris' we'd look then! They'd have us by the short 'n curly's!Grow some f
king gonads, we're here, we need to deal with it and show some strength! People fking whinging all the time make us look like retards.Jimboka said:
The majority of MPs are remain. They should do their job & govern. IE rip up the X factor vote, that was swayed by outright self confessed lies from the Clueless Brexit lot..
Good idea throw a way democracy and risk civil unrest and the MPs being voted out at the next GEjshell said:
Oh, that'd be great! Oops EU, we were wrong, our electorate are fools and we want to stay. Can we just make like it never happened? Sorryio... lol, wink, hehe, titter etc
What a nation of fking arris' we'd look then! They'd have us by the short 'n curly's!
Grow some fking gonads, we're here, we need to deal with it and show some strength! People fking whinging all the time make us look like retards.
No they wouldn't. We would still have the mandate to exit and that will be there till we do. What a nation of f
king arris' we'd look then! They'd have us by the short 'n curly's!Grow some f
king gonads, we're here, we need to deal with it and show some strength! People fking whinging all the time make us look like retards.The EU don't want us to leave so it would be a useful tool for negotiation in future even if it is a bit like bringing a loaded gun to the negotiating table.
AlecT said:
No, that would be like cutting off your nose to spite your face, they would get over it, and breathe a sigh of relief
Just like you'd welcome back your cheating wife, of course. That'd be fine, no long-term problems. You're mental. This has always been a strong country, now we have to have strength of convictions and live with the choices - the democratic choices - for better or worse.Place is full of f
king whining weasels.Interesting pic here on previously ignored referenda: https://twitter.com/drramzyross/status/74779322974...
lostkiwi said:
jshell said:
Oh, that'd be great! Oops EU, we were wrong, our electorate are fools and we want to stay. Can we just make like it never happened? Sorryio... lol, wink, hehe, titter etc
What a nation of fking arris' we'd look then! They'd have us by the short 'n curly's!
Grow some fking gonads, we're here, we need to deal with it and show some strength! People fking whinging all the time make us look like retards.
No they wouldn't. We would still have the mandate to exit and that will be there till we do. What a nation of f
king arris' we'd look then! They'd have us by the short 'n curly's!Grow some f
king gonads, we're here, we need to deal with it and show some strength! People fking whinging all the time make us look like retards.The EU don't want us to leave so it would be a useful tool for negotiation in future even if it is a bit like bringing a loaded gun to the negotiating table.
jshell said:
AlecT said:
No, that would be like cutting off your nose to spite your face, they would get over it, and breathe a sigh of relief
Just like you'd welcome back your cheating wife, of course. That'd be fine, no long-term problems. You're mental. This has always been a strong country, now we have to have strength of convictions and live with the choices - the democratic choices - for better or worse.Place is full of f
king whining weasels.Interesting times ahead.
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