Why so much referendum decision remorse?
Discussion
Einion Yrth said:
eharding said:
Yes, but in those cases the protesters weren't too fat, old and knackered to stand back up again without help after they'd finished being 'inconvenient' by sitting on their arses.
Still, enjoy your daydream as being lauded as 'Bunter of the Brexit Barricades'.
I don't recall us ever having met. Were you that unmemorable? Otherwise it's tricky to see how you could be judging my weight.Still, enjoy your daydream as being lauded as 'Bunter of the Brexit Barricades'.
kurt535 said:
Einion Yrth said:
eharding said:
Yes, but in those cases the protesters weren't too fat, old and knackered to stand back up again without help after they'd finished being 'inconvenient' by sitting on their arses.
Still, enjoy your daydream as being lauded as 'Bunter of the Brexit Barricades'.
I don't recall us ever having met. Were you that unmemorable? Otherwise it's tricky to see how you could be judging my weight.Still, enjoy your daydream as being lauded as 'Bunter of the Brexit Barricades'.
Esseesse said:
Because project fear has not ended...
'project fear' of course being the Leave campaign ... funny how remain predictions are turning out to be correct and leave have realised they cannot fund their promises or that the EU are going t obe be scrupulously to the letter in how they conduct leave negotiations ...
Norfolkit said:
This isn't the USA, we don't vote for the Prime Minister, we vote for a local MP.
We should vote for a local MP, but most people treat it as a popularity contest for the PM and party.And we should have voted for local MEPs, but again...
Edited by marshalla on Tuesday 28th June 23:07
holes would be a reason to vote remain. Does seem to form a large element of the remainders argument though.mph1977 said:
'project fear' of course being the Leave campaign ...
funny how remain predictions are turning out to be correct and leave have realised they cannot fund their promises or that the EU are going t obe be scrupulously to the letter in how they conduct leave negotiations ...
You seem to be suffering from terminal confirmation bias/selective blind/deafness.funny how remain predictions are turning out to be correct and leave have realised they cannot fund their promises or that the EU are going t obe be scrupulously to the letter in how they conduct leave negotiations ...
Wozy68 said:
Fool.
A reasonable percentage who voted remain, possibly wanted to vote leave but were frightened by the Government backed Stay brigade and their threats of total financial collapse and/or WW3 madness.
That percentage of remains as (of yet) has not been quantified.
And why you would think someone plus of 45 would necessarily always vote to leave beggars believe. I'm 47 and I have no idea why you would think I'm older enough to know anything other than being part of the EU.
Some of us did it for democracy and little else.
I know of a few who most definitely voted remain after all the scare stories, I even nearly did! My head said to remain, purely because I was being told of all that would go wrong but my heart ruled.A reasonable percentage who voted remain, possibly wanted to vote leave but were frightened by the Government backed Stay brigade and their threats of total financial collapse and/or WW3 madness.
That percentage of remains as (of yet) has not been quantified.
And why you would think someone plus of 45 would necessarily always vote to leave beggars believe. I'm 47 and I have no idea why you would think I'm older enough to know anything other than being part of the EU.
Some of us did it for democracy and little else.
Edited by Wozy68 on Tuesday 28th June 20:05
I do believe that in the long run(whatever that is) we will excel. For every job lost now another and more will be created in time to come.
I am worried, I was before and I am now after, I've got a reasonable mortgage, just spent some money (on finance) on my buisness, mrs wore me down on getting a bloody lease car, got a 8mth old baby with wife going back to 3 days a week and not 5. However I do have reasonable savings available and quite a few things I can sell if need be. The 2008 recession taught me to make sure there's enough money there for quite some time if things go wrong.
We have to get on with it, if I have to work harder for less for some time then so be it, for the long run it will be worth it.
Blue62 said:
I played golf with a CEO of a reasonably large company today (T/O £150m) and he told me that he regretted voting Leave because it's now clear that there's no plan and all the market reaction has taken him by surprise.
I reflected that maybe this country is not set fair under any circumstance, if tools like him are running businesses, maybe we really do need a nanny.
He'll probably still be playing golf in 5 years - whereas his workers will be trying to scrape rent money together. That's the tragedy.I reflected that maybe this country is not set fair under any circumstance, if tools like him are running businesses, maybe we really do need a nanny.
Wozy68 said:
And why you would think someone plus of 45 would necessarily always vote to leave beggars believe. I'm 47 and I have no idea why you would think I'm older enough to know anything other than being part of the EU.
Hmm.. Possibly because you're 47, and he EU has only existed for the last 23 years?don4l said:
Matt UK said:
Maybe it's just the news coverage, but I'm staggered there so many people saying they voted leave "but are now not sure if they made the right decision" or are "surprised it actually happened and now feel nervous".
Seriously, did the people of this country not understand what they were voting for?
This is an orchestrated campaign to destabilise the referendum result.Seriously, did the people of this country not understand what they were voting for?
Votes can be traced. I bet that if we do a little investigation, we will discover that they are lying through their teeth.
The whole Remain campaign has been built on lies.
A number of Leave voters I've spoken to since the referendum result regret the decision they made - one saying that she'd subsequently realised much of what she had voted to leave on the basis of was lies and/or not 100% truthful.
There's also a number who are still absolutely in favour of leaving and don't regret their decision one bit.
I think the news coverage probably highlights that there are a significant group of the Leave camp who perhaps do feel nervous about the decision they made and the outcome it resulted in.
There's also a number who are still absolutely in favour of leaving and don't regret their decision one bit.
I think the news coverage probably highlights that there are a significant group of the Leave camp who perhaps do feel nervous about the decision they made and the outcome it resulted in.
MrBarry123 said:
A number of Leave voters I've spoken to since the referendum result regret the decision they made - one saying that she'd subsequently realised much of what she had voted to leave on the basis of was lies and/or not 100% truthful.
There's also a number who are still absolutely in favour of leaving and don't regret their decision one bit.
I think the news coverage probably highlights that there are a significant group of the Leave camp who perhaps do feel nervous about the decision they made and the outcome it resulted in.
...and, let's face it, we're only 3 working days into it.There's also a number who are still absolutely in favour of leaving and don't regret their decision one bit.
I think the news coverage probably highlights that there are a significant group of the Leave camp who perhaps do feel nervous about the decision they made and the outcome it resulted in.
The fans have only just started wafting around the faintest hint of the earthy aroma from the gigatonnes of particularly whiffy ordure heading our way.
I think the main reason for regret goes something like this....
1. Quite a lot of people have belatedly realised that this was a one time vote, and they're not going to get to do it again in five years.
2. Many of those same people have effectively voted for a section of the British establishment (Boris & Gove) for whom they'd never vote in a million months of Sundays in a national election.
3. An increasing number of them have also realised that this means that they have absolutely no way of holding Boris and Gove accountable for anything they do now, because it's a one time decision, and Boris and Gove knew they'd never have to count on their support anyway.
The people I've spoken to who regret voting leave have said they regret it not because they want to stay in the EU, but because they're coming to realise that the establishment's view of what the post EU UK will look like is very different to what they imagined, and there's little or nothing that they can do about it.
1. Quite a lot of people have belatedly realised that this was a one time vote, and they're not going to get to do it again in five years.
2. Many of those same people have effectively voted for a section of the British establishment (Boris & Gove) for whom they'd never vote in a million months of Sundays in a national election.
3. An increasing number of them have also realised that this means that they have absolutely no way of holding Boris and Gove accountable for anything they do now, because it's a one time decision, and Boris and Gove knew they'd never have to count on their support anyway.
The people I've spoken to who regret voting leave have said they regret it not because they want to stay in the EU, but because they're coming to realise that the establishment's view of what the post EU UK will look like is very different to what they imagined, and there's little or nothing that they can do about it.
I expect there is a dawning realisation for many that:
1. The leave campaign was founded on a bunch of random entirely made up nonsense that cannot be delivered (£350m a week saved, new hospitals, cancer drugs, free movement for us but not for the foreigners and access to the single market free of charge)
2. Boris and his gang had no plan at all. Nothing.
3. The predictions made by almost all financial institutions and experts have come true - our markets are suffering and our personal finances will also suffer in time.
4. The architect of our misfortune, David Cameron led a lacklustre campaign, failing to explain why we should stay and after losing has simply opted out.
I think it is natural that many will feel misled and let down. I expect they will stand by their reasoning for wanting to leave, but will be wondering if this will happen and if the price of an illusory freedom will be worth paying.
1. The leave campaign was founded on a bunch of random entirely made up nonsense that cannot be delivered (£350m a week saved, new hospitals, cancer drugs, free movement for us but not for the foreigners and access to the single market free of charge)
2. Boris and his gang had no plan at all. Nothing.
3. The predictions made by almost all financial institutions and experts have come true - our markets are suffering and our personal finances will also suffer in time.
4. The architect of our misfortune, David Cameron led a lacklustre campaign, failing to explain why we should stay and after losing has simply opted out.
I think it is natural that many will feel misled and let down. I expect they will stand by their reasoning for wanting to leave, but will be wondering if this will happen and if the price of an illusory freedom will be worth paying.
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