How do we think EU negotiations will go?
Discussion
///ajd said:
I’ve given you my answer, calmly. Two infact. Remain - best option
Leave - stay in CU / some form of SM to safe guard NI/Eire issue
Your answer appears to be shout LEAVE.
One wonders if these compelling arguments should have been deployed before the vote.
If you don’t have an answer that doesn’t fck the country, then I don’t see why your vote should be given too much respect. Sounds like yours was just an angry shouty protest vote if you can’t provide real world justified solutions.
Leave - stay in CU / some form of SM to safe guard NI/Eire issue
Your answer appears to be shout LEAVE.
One wonders if these compelling arguments should have been deployed before the vote.
If you don’t have an answer that doesn’t fck the country, then I don’t see why your vote should be given too much respect. Sounds like yours was just an angry shouty protest vote if you can’t provide real world justified solutions.
sidicks said:
///ajd said:
I’ve given you my answer, calmly. Two infact. Remain - best option
Leave - stay in CU / some form of SM to safe guard NI/Eire issue
Your answer appears to be shout LEAVE.
One wonders if these compelling arguments should have been deployed before the vote.
If you don’t have an answer that doesn’t fck the country, then I don’t see why your vote should be given too much respect. Sounds like yours was just an angry shouty protest vote if you can’t provide real world justified solutions.
Leave - stay in CU / some form of SM to safe guard NI/Eire issue
Your answer appears to be shout LEAVE.
One wonders if these compelling arguments should have been deployed before the vote.
If you don’t have an answer that doesn’t fck the country, then I don’t see why your vote should be given too much respect. Sounds like yours was just an angry shouty protest vote if you can’t provide real world justified solutions.
It applies to you too actually Sidicks - what is your answer to NI/Eire?
Is it like JSFs I wonder?
///ajd said:
Robertj21a said:
///ajd said:
The answer is stay in the CU.
You just aren't ready to accept that yet.
I keep providing a very compelling answer to the stupid vote.
If you want to carry on with it, best YOU come up with answers to keep this madness on the rails.
I can't think of a good answer to the Eire border issue that isn't at least staying in the CU as the border alternatives are terrible and not a price worth paying.
As such remain is the best answer. Its the best thing for the country, the EU and the world. By a country mile. And that's a red white and blue patriotic British country mile with spitfires and everything.
Which English lessons did you miss, or was it just reading ?You just aren't ready to accept that yet.
I keep providing a very compelling answer to the stupid vote.
If you want to carry on with it, best YOU come up with answers to keep this madness on the rails.
I can't think of a good answer to the Eire border issue that isn't at least staying in the CU as the border alternatives are terrible and not a price worth paying.
As such remain is the best answer. Its the best thing for the country, the EU and the world. By a country mile. And that's a red white and blue patriotic British country mile with spitfires and everything.
We voted to LEAVE. Why do you keep on about remaining ? Presumably that's your only solution - one that's not available !
Leave - stay in CU / some form of SM to safe guard NI/Eire issue
Your answer appears to be shout LEAVE.
One wonders if these compelling arguments should have been deployed before the vote.
If you don’t have an answer that doesn’t fck the country, then I don’t see why your vote should be given too much respect. Sounds like yours was just an angry shouty protest vote if you can’t provide real world justified solutions.
Robertj21a said:
As we have said on numerous occasions - but, presumably you've forgotten/don't agree/don't like or just go LaLaLaLa to mask the facts (much as usual) - my voting paper had two options, only. Like 52% of others who voted, I decided to leave. Sorry if you don't like hard facts.
Brilliant.If you haven’t got any answers, people might start thinking you don’t know what you voted for.
Very kind of you to put it in writing.
Others might start assigning other labels.
///ajd said:
egor110 said:
Does it really matter ?
None of us have any leverage as to how we leave .
We had a vote stay/leave and that was the only input required from us , i'm sure Tusk/Davis aren't contacting ajd to check any of there negotiations because he/we don't matter .
If none of it matters, why did you bother voting?None of us have any leverage as to how we leave .
We had a vote stay/leave and that was the only input required from us , i'm sure Tusk/Davis aren't contacting ajd to check any of there negotiations because he/we don't matter .
Why are you happy / don't care if there is a bad solution for NI/Eire?
Take responsibility and deliver or retreat/back down as not able to deliver.
How i feel re the Irish border is neither here or there my/your opinion no longer matter because there's nothing else for us to vote on .
Like i said we have no sway how Davis sorts out brexit , say your crusade on here worked and you managed to change all the brexiters to remainers , it would make no difference to the outcome .
///ajd said:
I’ve given you my answer, calmly. Two infact. Remain - best option
Leave - stay in CU / some form of SM to safe guard NI/Eire issue
Your answer appears to be shout LEAVE.
One wonders if these compelling arguments should have been deployed before the vote.
If you don’t have an answer that doesn’t fck the country, then I don’t see why your vote should be given too much respect. Sounds like yours was just an angry shouty protest vote if you can’t provide real world justified solutions.
Why does anyone need you to respect there vote ?Leave - stay in CU / some form of SM to safe guard NI/Eire issue
Your answer appears to be shout LEAVE.
One wonders if these compelling arguments should have been deployed before the vote.
If you don’t have an answer that doesn’t fck the country, then I don’t see why your vote should be given too much respect. Sounds like yours was just an angry shouty protest vote if you can’t provide real world justified solutions.
Your vote is worth as much as somebody who's never been to university , never worked a day of there lives .
You seem to struggle with the fact that once you've been persuaded to vote that's it your job is done nobody cares anymore what you think .
///ajd said:
Robertj21a said:
As we have said on numerous occasions - but, presumably you've forgotten/don't agree/don't like or just go LaLaLaLa to mask the facts (much as usual) - my voting paper had two options, only. Like 52% of others who voted, I decided to leave. Sorry if you don't like hard facts.
Brilliant.If you haven’t got any answers, people might start thinking you don’t know what you voted for.
Very kind of you to put it in writing.
Others might start assigning other labels.
I was asked to vote - I voted - I'm delighted that 52% were of the same view. I have no authority to resolve other issues that arise.
Do you think that you can change matters ?
///ajd said:
Brilliant.
If you haven’t got any answers, people might start thinking you don’t know what you voted for.
Very kind of you to put it in writing.
Others might start assigning other labels.
What these Posters are doing, ///ajd, is proving that the Tories made a huge error in trusting such a complex decision to be made by Joe Public. If you haven’t got any answers, people might start thinking you don’t know what you voted for.
Very kind of you to put it in writing.
Others might start assigning other labels.
Joe Public was never in a sufficiently informed position, on average, to make a decision in the best interests of the Country as a whole.
No responsibility. I voted, it is for others to deliver. A pathetic mentality. The UK economy damaged due to ignorance and misplaced emotion. But we cannot expect Leavers to man up and grow a pair, to accept their role in voting for an undeliverable Nirvana; to admit that they were taken in, hoodwinked and deceived by lecherous, scheming Politicians only interested in taking advantage of the weak-minded, the ill-informed and the easily duped.
Coolbanana said:
What these Posters are doing, ///ajd, is proving that the Tories made a huge error in trusting such a complex decision to be made by Joe Public.
Joe Public was never in a sufficiently informed position, on average, to make a decision in the best interests of the Country as a whole.
No responsibility. I voted, it is for others to deliver. A pathetic mentality.
Who do you think is in a position to implement anything? The population or the government?Joe Public was never in a sufficiently informed position, on average, to make a decision in the best interests of the Country as a whole.
No responsibility. I voted, it is for others to deliver. A pathetic mentality.
I think you'll fund it is exactly what we have a government (and a civil service) for - implementing the wishes of the population!
Coolbanana said:
The UK economy damaged due to ignorance and misplaced emotion. But we cannot expect Leavers to man up and grow a pair, to accept their role in voting for an undeliverable Nirvana; to admit that they were taken in, hoodwinked and deceived by lecherous, scheming Politicians only interested in taking advantage of the weak-minded, the ill-informed and the easily duped.
I guess we can't expect the losers of the vote to not be bitter and not to cry and scream and stamp their feetEdited by sidicks on Saturday 25th November 16:39
I wonder if 'the usual' Remainers on here just assume that their wives/partners/siblings/friends etc all voted to Remain - or whether (heaven forbid!) some of them actually voted to Leave ?
If they now find out that they have a traitor in their midst will they just assume they couldn't help it because, deep down, they must be a 'Thicko' ?
Coolbanana said:
What these Posters are doing, ///ajd, is proving that the Tories made a huge error in trusting such a complex decision to be made by Joe Public.
Joe Public was never in a sufficiently informed position, on average, to make a decision in the best interests of the Country as a whole.
No responsibility. I voted, it is for others to deliver. A pathetic mentality. The UK economy damaged due to ignorance and misplaced emotion. But we cannot expect Leavers to man up and grow a pair, to accept their role in voting for an undeliverable Nirvana; to admit that they were taken in, hoodwinked and deceived by lecherous, scheming Politicians only interested in taking advantage of the weak-minded, the ill-informed and the easily duped.
What is even more impressive is that they bash their musings into the keyboard and prove what you have stated above, beyond any doubt whatsoever.Joe Public was never in a sufficiently informed position, on average, to make a decision in the best interests of the Country as a whole.
No responsibility. I voted, it is for others to deliver. A pathetic mentality. The UK economy damaged due to ignorance and misplaced emotion. But we cannot expect Leavers to man up and grow a pair, to accept their role in voting for an undeliverable Nirvana; to admit that they were taken in, hoodwinked and deceived by lecherous, scheming Politicians only interested in taking advantage of the weak-minded, the ill-informed and the easily duped.
It is progress, of sorts.
///ajd said:
Coolbanana said:
What these Posters are doing, ///ajd, is proving that the Tories made a huge error in trusting such a complex decision to be made by Joe Public.
Joe Public was never in a sufficiently informed position, on average, to make a decision in the best interests of the Country as a whole.
No responsibility. I voted, it is for others to deliver. A pathetic mentality. The UK economy damaged due to ignorance and misplaced emotion. But we cannot expect Leavers to man up and grow a pair, to accept their role in voting for an undeliverable Nirvana; to admit that they were taken in, hoodwinked and deceived by lecherous, scheming Politicians only interested in taking advantage of the weak-minded, the ill-informed and the easily duped.
What is even more impressive is that they bash their musings into the keyboard and prove what you have stated above, beyond any doubt whatsoever.Joe Public was never in a sufficiently informed position, on average, to make a decision in the best interests of the Country as a whole.
No responsibility. I voted, it is for others to deliver. A pathetic mentality. The UK economy damaged due to ignorance and misplaced emotion. But we cannot expect Leavers to man up and grow a pair, to accept their role in voting for an undeliverable Nirvana; to admit that they were taken in, hoodwinked and deceived by lecherous, scheming Politicians only interested in taking advantage of the weak-minded, the ill-informed and the easily duped.
It is progress, of sorts.
Coolbanana said:
///ajd said:
Brilliant.
If you haven’t got any answers, people might start thinking you don’t know what you voted for.
Very kind of you to put it in writing.
Others might start assigning other labels.
What these Posters are doing, ///ajd, is proving that the Tories made a huge error in trusting such a complex decision to be made by Joe Public. If you haven’t got any answers, people might start thinking you don’t know what you voted for.
Very kind of you to put it in writing.
Others might start assigning other labels.
Joe Public was never in a sufficiently informed position, on average, to make a decision in the best interests of the Country as a whole.
No responsibility. I voted, it is for others to deliver. A pathetic mentality. The UK economy damaged due to ignorance and misplaced emotion. But we cannot expect Leavers to man up and grow a pair, to accept their role in voting for an undeliverable Nirvana; to admit that they were taken in, hoodwinked and deceived by lecherous, scheming Politicians only interested in taking advantage of the weak-minded, the ill-informed and the easily duped.
Coolbanana said:
What these Posters are doing, ///ajd, is proving that the Tories made a huge error in trusting such a complex decision to be made by Joe Public.
Joe Public was never in a sufficiently informed position, on average, to make a decision in the best interests of the Country as a whole.
It appears neither were Parliament as they abdicated their decision to the public voteJoe Public was never in a sufficiently informed position, on average, to make a decision in the best interests of the Country as a whole.
This has been brewing for years - each time the EU moves closer to a European state the resistance to that has grown in the UK
Leaving 40 odd years of integration was never going to be simple - I'm just glad the UK never joined the Euro it would have probably killed any chance of leaving stone dead
egor110 said:
So presumably if you voted conservative last time your personally responsible for the increase in car crime , the decline of the nhs ?
I've just been down to my local hospital to try and implement some changes to their working practices as part of implementing my vote for the Conservatives and their NHS reforms.For some reasons, they told me to get off their premises or else they'd call the police. Maybe ///adj can explain why this isn't what he expected?!
Coolbanana said:
What these Posters are doing, ///ajd, is proving that the Tories made a huge error in trusting such a complex decision to be made by Joe Public.
So let's see... Joe Public can't be trusted. The Tories can't be trusted. Are only people on your approved list allowed to make decisions?Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff