Anyone give a toss about Gibraltar's future?

Anyone give a toss about Gibraltar's future?

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sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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jonnyb said:
Except it is. A member of their club wants it to be, and now it is, weather we want it to be or not.

It's one of the down sides of not being part of that club anymore.

Now I'm sure the UK government will do its best, but it has hardly any cards to play, and you shouting and swearing about it won't change that.

It's just mildly amusing.
You're out of your depth - step away from the keyboard!

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Where can the UK stick the needle in and suggest that they will support leavers attempts at self governance?

Certain parts of Spain for certain.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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jmorgan said:
Where can the UK stick the needle in and suggest that they will support leavers attempts at self governance?

Certain parts of Spain for certain.
Send Farage to Barcelona to top up his tan!

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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anonymous said:
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Tell him he needs to have a quite chat with some fellow, meeting will be in this arena, lots of saw dust on the floor in homage to the boozers he likes. Maybe some wildlife but hey, when in Rome and all that....

jonnyb

2,590 posts

253 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Einion Yrth said:
jonnyb said:
weather we want it to be or not.

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Weather? Tremble in your boots lads, one of the least literate posters in these parts has spoken, it must be true.

Or maybe not, I don't think Spain attempting to assume control over Gibraltar is likely to end well.
They don't want to assume control, they want any agreement not to apply to Gib without their say so.

They have found a way to get some sort of influence over the issue, and you can't blame them for taking it

Emanresu

311 posts

90 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Maybe controversial but why doesn't England just be England? Do whatever they want, leave Gibraltar, Falklands, Scotland, Wales, Ireland and whoever else alone to do their own thing.

The days of colonies have long expired.

Let's be honest, the UK is just a stty little amalgamation who conquered other nations years ago where people have been brainwashed to think that it's something special. We are nothing and the world can survive without us.

Smollet

10,629 posts

191 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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jmorgan said:
Where can the UK stick the needle in and suggest that they will support leavers attempts at self governance?

Certain parts of Spain for certain.
I somehow don't that approach will help. Best to get Spain to just drop the idea.

chrispmartha

15,501 posts

130 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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s3fella said:
It time we started to realise all these wkers making threats are nobodies. Spain is fked, well and truly, just look at the stats for the economy. We as Brits should now say fk them. Don't spend your pounds there, go on holiday somewhere else, don't buy Spanish produce in the shops, let is fking rot and let Tesco throw it away.
Same for any country that wants to start waving their billy big balls about.

There's plenty more places to get your tapas and plenty of sunny places with British pubs to take your hols in.

Spain, st em.
You do realise Al Murray is a fictional - satirical comedy character, right?

Strange that you want to emulate him.

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Emanresu said:
Maybe controversial but why doesn't England just be England? Do whatever they want, leave Gibraltar, Falklands, Scotland, Wales, Ireland and whoever else alone to do their own thing.

The days of colonies have long expired.

Let's be honest, the UK is just a stty little amalgamation who conquered other nations years ago where people have been brainwashed to think that it's something special. We are nothing and the world can survive without us.
I thunk you mean 'idiotic nonsense' rather than 'controversial'?!

Do you think that's what the people in those countries actually want?!

Edited by sidicks on Saturday 1st April 17:59

gruffalo

7,529 posts

227 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Perhaps Morocco should make a claim for the Canary Islands, or we could provide assistance to the Basque separatists.

To me if the EU hold this position with Spain then it is time to just declare the negotiations over, Gibraltar's sovereignty is non negotiable and we crash out of the EU.

I have a sneaky feeling that would result in a bit of a rethink and Germany may well tell Spain to wind it's neck in.


Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Emanresu said:
Let's be honest, the UK is just a stty little amalgamation who conquered other nations years ago where people have been brainwashed to think that it's something special. We are nothing and the world can survive without us.
Sweet Jesus.

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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gruffalo said:
Perhaps Morocco should make a claim for the Canary Islands, or we could provide assistance to the Basque separatists.

To me if the EU hold this position with Spain then it is time to just declare the negotiations over, Gibraltar's sovereignty is non negotiable and we crash out of the EU.

I have a sneaky feeling that would result in a bit of a rethink and Germany may well tell Spain to wind it's neck in.
yes

Emanresu

311 posts

90 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Jockman said:
Emanresu said:
Let's be honest, the UK is just a stty little amalgamation who conquered other nations years ago where people have been brainwashed to think that it's something special. We are nothing and the world can survive without us.
This is true. Go and educate yourself. The uk isn't half of what the U.K. At one time they controlled half the world. Now we are nothing. But we Are taught to be. Think about it logically. The uk is a small little island nation. Why is it significant? It's not.
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Sweet Jesus

Emanresu

311 posts

90 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Emanresu said:
Jockman said:
Emanresu said:
Let's be honest, the UK is just a stty little amalgamation who conquered other nations years ago where people have been brainwashed to think that it's something special. We are nothing and the world can survive without us.
This is true. Go and educate yourself. The uk isn't half of what the U.K. At one time they controlled half the world. Now we are nothing. But we Are taught to be. Think about it logically. The uk is a small little island nation. Why is it significant? It's not.
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Sweet Jesus
We're just a stty little island punching above our weight. Let England be England and leave everyone else alone.

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Emanresu said:
We're just a stty little island punching above our weight. Let England be England and leave everyone else alone.
As above, do you think those other entities want to be linked to Engkand or not?!

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Emanresu said:
We're just a stty little island punching above our weight. Let England be England and leave everyone else alone.
I prefer to be British. Except when we play the old enemy then I am Welsh. etc.

philv

3,945 posts

215 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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I think it a shame that so far i think we have been quite reasonable and realistic in our approach to brexit, whereas the EU have been threatening, accusing, and inflammatory (both before and during tne start of this process).

By including Gibralta, tney are playing games.

I'd prefer May stands in front of the EU and state that Gibralta is not part of tnis, and if the EU insist on including it, she's off home with the negotiating team.
And she'll be happy to resume talks when they stop f'ing around.

Tne EU really are a group of unpleasant jumped up self importants.

hidetheelephants

24,492 posts

194 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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This spanish intransigence is a good definition of bad faith and they should be obliged to sit out the brexit negotiations on the grounds they are not adult enough to take part.

jonnyb

2,590 posts

253 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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sidicks said:
jonnyb said:
Except it is. A member of their club wants it to be, and now it is, weather we want it to be or not.

It's one of the down sides of not being part of that club anymore.

Now I'm sure the UK government will do its best, but it has hardly any cards to play, and you shouting and swearing about it won't change that.

It's just mildly amusing.
You're out of your depth - step away from the keyboard!
biglaugh


philv

3,945 posts

215 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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I do hope May is able to grow some Thacturesque balls.