Tory Leadership Election

[klootzak]

Eric Mc said:

Don't count on it.

Haha ... fair comment.

Maybe a little too much wishful thinking on my part

k

[don4l]

king arthur said:

don4l said:

WOW!

That was a surprise.

Are we one step closer to seeing Leadsom in?

No I think it's 99% certain it will be May now.

Boris can be PM after her. I thought it would probably be the other way around - someone with vision and energy to get us through the negotiations and then a steady pair of hands to steer us onwards from there.

Boris has clearly decided to fight another day.

Very astute!

I really hope that May doesn't win. I do not believe that she would get a good deal with the EU.

[johnxjsc1985]

king arthur said:

I very much doubt it is either of those.

Exactly he knew this is not his time and is smart enough to know this. He will probably get a Job and he will get another chance later on.

[klootzak]

king arthur said:

I very much doubt it is either of those.

Maybe not the latter, but definitely the former.

k

[king arthur]

don4l said:

Boris has clearly decided to fight another day.

Very astute!

I really hope that May doesn't win. I do not believe that she would get a good deal with the EU.

It depends who she puts in charge. If it's Gove I think he would.

[sirtyro]

Maybe he saw that May was in front on Pistonheads and decided it wasn't for him.

[Jockman]

paulrockliffe said:

Axionknight said:

vonuber said:

Axionknight said:

Seems that way.

ECHR has nowt to do with brexit, it's a seperate institution, created with huge input from the british.

I know.

It is possible in a post-Brexit world to remain in the ECHR but to not have it as the top court in the UK. Who knows what the plan is, but I don't necessarily see an issue with things still going to the ECHR with the Government then able to appeal a decision to a UK court if it felt it in the national interest. So keep the good bits, but be able to deal with National security, or whatever, as we want.

It was interesting to read Merkel's comment about UK not being allowed to cherry pick.

That is obviously the strategy

[klootzak]

johnxjsc1985 said:

Exactly he knew this is not his time and is smart enough to know this. He will probably get a Job and he will get another chance later on.

Possibly, though he did pin his colours very firmly to the exit mast, then ran away when it counted.

As short as people's memories are, I suspect that will follow him around. Britain (or England) loves a loser, not a coward.

k

[Puggit]

Puggit said:

Guido said:

Sources: Boris mulling over quitting.

I thank you

[anonymous-user]

don4l said:

WOW!

That was a surprise.

Are we one step closer to seeing Leadsom in?

No. It's May's to lose now.

[Jockman]

king arthur said:

don4l said:

Boris has clearly decided to fight another day.

Very astute!

I really hope that May doesn't win. I do not believe that she would get a good deal with the EU.

It depends who she puts in charge. If it's Gove I think he would.

Do you think Boris supporters will stand behind May or Gove ?

[JNW1]

I think Boris and his advisors were savvy enough to see he probably wasn't going to win this time around and hence he's decided to keep his powder dry with a view to living to fight another day. In terms of who would make the best leader in the short-term, although he left under a bit of a cloud as Defence Secretary I actually think Liam Fox comes across better than Michael Gove....

[johnxjsc1985]

klootzak said:

Possibly, though he did pin his colours very firmly to the exit mast, then ran away when it counted.

As short as people's memories are, I suspect that will follow him around. Britain (or England) loves a loser, not a coward.

k

I think he has done the right thing his presence would have made this a kind of freak show.
Gove or May ? I have warmed to Gove once you get over his very quiet unassuming nature he is quite a strong character and that goes for May also..
We do not need the Conservative moving further to the right.

[king arthur]

Jockman said:

king arthur said:

don4l said:

Boris has clearly decided to fight another day.

Very astute!

I really hope that May doesn't win. I do not believe that she would get a good deal with the EU.

It depends who she puts in charge. If it's Gove I think he would.

Do you think Boris supporters will stand behind May or Gove ?

Yes

[johnxjsc1985]

ash73 said:

Theresa is now a shoo-in for the job, imo. I've just watched her speech and I thought it was excellent. Her views are moderate and she comes across as a likeable headmistress who means business, which I think will have broad appeal. The ECHR point came up in the Q&A and she simply said she won't be pursuing it because there was insufficient support.

Gove will be Brexit minister, he's too right-wing to provide balanced leadership and toxic to the general public.

I think She should be given a "coronation" she voted remain but kept out of the Dog fight which cost Cameron and Osbourne.
But when you look at the Corbyn situation this seems very ordered and civilised.

[Vocal Minority]

JNW1 said:

I think Boris and his advisors were savvy enough to see he probably wasn't going to win this time around and hence he's decided to keep his powder dry with a view to living to fight another day.

Is the right answer.

They've canvassed the party, found he didn't have the support to beat Gove or May and decided that not running is the better option to a very high profile defeat.

[PositronicRay]

ash73 said:

Theresa is now a shoo-in for the job, imo. I've just watched her speech and I thought it was excellent. Her views are moderate and she comes across as a likeable headmistress who means business, which I think will have broad appeal. The ECHR point came up in the Q&A and she simply said she won't be pursuing it because there was insufficient support.

Gove will be Brexit minister, he's too right-wing to provide balanced leadership and toxic to the general public.

Chris Grayling to run Theresa's campaign which won't do any harm.

MG as brexit minister? I don't think so, his vision and Theresa's vision of brexit are poles apart.

ETA

Jeremy Wright on the Brexit team as well.

Edited by PositronicRay on Thursday 30th June 12:23

[don4l]

Jockman said:

king arthur said:

don4l said:

Boris has clearly decided to fight another day.

Very astute!

I really hope that May doesn't win. I do not believe that she would get a good deal with the EU.

It depends who she puts in charge. If it's Gove I think he would.

Do you think Boris supporters will stand behind May or Gove ?

I haven't a clue any more.

I really didn't see Gove's move coming, and I look forward to finding out what motivated him to put the knife in.

I think that Boris' big mistake was to leave it too late to declare his position on Europe. He performed brilliantly in the debates. The way he allowed his companions to deal with the personal attacks showed that he really has superb leadership qualities.

Unfortunately, he didn't convince the public that he was sincere.

[Esseesse]

klootzak said:

Spineless Boris chucks in the towel.

An ignominious end to his political career.

Amusing though.

k

Not yet necessarily. Losing the leadership contest could have been an end though.

[klootzak]

Vocal Minority said:

Is the right answer.

They've canvassed the party, found he didn't have the support to beat Gove or May and decided that not running is the better option to a very high profile defeat.

Not so sure about that. High profile defeat at the hands of people who then fk up is actually a strong place to be.

Boris's strongest hand is when he's playing against the status quo (even as a pseudo outsider).

Right now he has to return as someone who wasn't prepared to back their own convictions. That's a bad look with the British public who'd much rather support a plucky loser than a coward.

k