Tory Leadership Election

Poll: Tory Leadership Election

Total Members Polled: 433

BoJo Boris Johnson (Leave): 72
I-Spy Theresa May (Remain): 219
Andrea Leadsom (Leave): 70
Gay can be cured Stephen Crabb (Remain): 17
Dr Jeremy Hunt (Remain): 5
Free Jolly Liam Fox (Leave): 9
Sajid Javid (Remain): 7
Beaker Nicky Morgan (Remain): 3
Jezza Corbyn (um): 14
I back JoBo honest Mike Gove: 30
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loafer123

15,444 posts

215 months

Saturday 17th June 2017
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DrDeAtH said:
She certainly messed up her 'Thatcher moment'
She came across as weak during the campaign. I expect a leadership election in the not too distant.


Why are most of the politicians these days st?
The problem is that no one good wants to become a politician because it is a st job.

I think that there is irrational hatred of Theresa May because she doesn't do the self promotion, press briefing stuff and never has, so the media don't like her.


BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Saturday 17th June 2017
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Halb said:
Portillo reckons she won't last till the convention, and if she does, she'll be gone soon after.
He certainly wasn't holding back:

"Alas, Mrs May was what’s she’s been for the last five or six weeks, and that is to say she wanted an entirely controlled situation in which she didn’t use her humanity.".........

.........."The Prime Minister would have been shouted at by the residents, but she should have been willing to take that. You have to be prepared to receive people’s emotions and not be so frightened about people."






smn159

12,661 posts

217 months

Saturday 17th June 2017
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loafer123 said:
I think that there is irrational hatred of Theresa May because she doesn't do the self promotion, press briefing stuff and never has, so the media don't like her.
Also because she appears to be st at her job

Guybrush

4,350 posts

206 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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I don't think she is doing a bad job at all. We have to cut through the noise, the sneering, the stupid questions by journalists, in short the brainwashing. Her actions, what she has done and is doing, it's all good stuff. I do think there's an agenda in the baying mob attacks and they come from two fronts: those wishing to derail brexit by any means and the left who simply want to get her to stand down so as to force yet another election, giving them a chance for more unfunded promises.

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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Agreed. May's doing a fantastic job.
You can hardly blame her for calling the early general election in a cynical attempt to increase her majority. It wasn't May's fault that she refused to take part in the televised leader debates, nor was her 20 minute trip to the Grenfell Tower to see a few representatives from the emergency services anything you can blame on her. Can't pin the manifesto U-turns on her. She's merely a figurehead for the party, nothing more.
It's all Labour's fault. Clearly the communists have infiltrated the Daily Mail. It's all a damned conspiracy I tells ye!

Derek Smith

45,664 posts

248 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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Guybrush said:
I don't think she is doing a bad job at all. We have to cut through the noise, the sneering, the stupid questions by journalists, in short the brainwashing. Her actions, what she has done and is doing, it's all good stuff. I do think there's an agenda in the baying mob attacks and they come from two fronts: those wishing to derail brexit by any means and the left who simply want to get her to stand down so as to force yet another election, giving them a chance for more unfunded promises.
There’s damning by faint praise and damning by faint damning.

You suggest ignoring the noise, sneering, questioning and brainwashing. Good Idea. We should look at what she achieved in the eleven months of May.

She took over at a difficult time and made it more difficult. The negotiations are going to be critical for this country. The financial foundations of this country are going to be rocked. And I’m certain the PM realised this.

So she took a big risk on going back on her word and calling a snap GE. It wasn’t needed.

She destroyed the party’s majority and made the government weaker at a time of great difficulty.

The manifesto, of little interest in the coming 18 months, was hilariously poor. Or it would have been hilarious had it not bee so important.

We are in a situation, entirely of her making, where the vultures in her party are circling. There will be a period of internal machinations that the tory party are so good at, and all at a time when we need a concerted front with the negotiations.

You suggest the mob is the most likely thing to derail brexit. That’s wrong. It is May’s actions.

Not a bad job? You are probably right. Bad is not the adjective most people would use to describe her 11 months in the role.





Bonefish Blues

26,748 posts

223 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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A couple of weeks ago Andrew Neil put his finger on it when he said that she'd never been rated by Westminster insiders, and that it appeared to him that the electorate had now rumbled her, too.

Smollet

10,581 posts

190 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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Bonefish Blues said:
A couple of weeks ago Andrew Neil put his finger on it when he said that she'd never been rated by Westminster insiders, and that it appeared to him that the electorate had now rumbled her, too.
I once read that Jeremy Hunt was rated by those in Westminster. Let's make him PM. That should be fun

Bonefish Blues

26,748 posts

223 months

Sunday 18th June 2017
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Smollet said:
Bonefish Blues said:
A couple of weeks ago Andrew Neil put his finger on it when he said that she'd never been rated by Westminster insiders, and that it appeared to him that the electorate had now rumbled her, too.
I once read that Jeremy Hunt was rated by those in Westminster. Let's make him PM. That should be fun
Naughtie got it right, eh? hehe

Vaud

50,510 posts

155 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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anonymous said:
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True, but...

Number of female party leaders:

Tories: 2
Labour: 0


Number of female Prime Ministers:

Tories: 2
Labour: 0