Tory Leadership Election

Poll: Tory Leadership Election

Total Members Polled: 433

BoJo Boris Johnson (Leave): 72
I-Spy Theresa May (Remain): 219
Andrea Leadsom (Leave): 70
Gay can be cured Stephen Crabb (Remain): 17
Dr Jeremy Hunt (Remain): 5
Free Jolly Liam Fox (Leave): 9
Sajid Javid (Remain): 7
Beaker Nicky Morgan (Remain): 3
Jezza Corbyn (um): 14
I back JoBo honest Mike Gove: 30
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Luther Blisset

392 posts

133 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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s2art said:
But how will a remainer unite the party when the bulk of the party members are for leave?
She's already done it by saying there will be no going back.
No second referendum, and she'd ask the party whether or not to be in the free maket.
She's more of a "leaver" now than BJ who changed his tune 2 days later.

Elroy Blue said:
Have you ANY idea of the complete abortion she made of her time as Home Secretary. At this very moment she's peddling lies about her 'achievements '
Policies aside, I think she's got the right temperemant and personality for the job. Better than Gove or Jeremy Hunt.
But I don't think Gove really wants it.
I think he just wanted to ensure BJ doesn't as he's too much of a divisive figure, and would constantly be blamed for putting us here in the first place, undermining his tenure.

RichB

51,659 posts

285 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Elroy Blue said:
PositronicRay said:
I'm guessing your a copper?
It doesn't stop her 'claims' being lies
She strikes me as a very straight and honest politician.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Blue62 said:
s2art said:
But how will a remainer unite the party when the bulk of the party members are for leave?
Simply because the Leave camp won, the ones to win over and get on side are the Remainers. All that said, I have just picked up a tip that Murdoch is behind all this, he gave the thumbs down to Boris at the weekend, believe it if you wish, it is only a rumour to the best of my knowledge, though from a decent source.
A large manority of Tory MPs want to remain.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Elroy Blue said:
PositronicRay said:
I'm guessing your a copper?
It doesn't stop her 'claims' being lies
Maybe, maybe not. Gove is almost universally hated by teachers though, so either the police or the teachers are going to end up pissed off.

PositronicRay

27,066 posts

184 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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RichB said:
Elroy Blue said:
PositronicRay said:
I'm guessing your a copper?
It doesn't stop her 'claims' being lies
She strikes me as a very straight and honest politician.
Loyal too.

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Greg66 said:
Maybe, maybe not. Gove is almost universally hated by teachers though, so either the police or the teachers are going to end up pissed off.
If this was the only consideration. Teachers can strike. So best option is ps off the police.

CooperD

2,873 posts

178 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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None of the leadership candidates really stand out for me but I suppose Theresa May is the best of a poor bunch. Liam Fox would probably be my next preference but Michael Gove, no way.

Yertis

18,072 posts

267 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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MarshPhantom said:
A large manority of Tory MPs want to remain.
You invented the perfect word there, well done! clap

birdcage

2,841 posts

206 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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It's clear why Boris is not going to run, he has form with the ladies and some plagiarism issues too plus a few dodgy deals as mayor perhaps.

Not popular enough for someone to 'make it all go away'

Good, he's a prick

Edited by birdcage on Thursday 30th June 18:21

Blayney

2,948 posts

187 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Munter said:
Greg66 said:
Maybe, maybe not. Gove is almost universally hated by teachers though, so either the police or the teachers are going to end up pissed off.
If this was the only consideration. Teachers can strike. So best option is ps off the police.
May will also ps off anyone who has worked issuing VISA's/Compliance in the last 6 years.

Yertis

18,072 posts

267 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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CX53 said:
I would have been very happy if Andrea Leadsom was elected, although it won't happen. It might even actually make me want to vote conservative next time around.
I chose her, and was quite surprised she's in third place at the moment, or second now since Bojo's off the table. She was very cool in the debate, seemed a cool head and a safe pair of hands.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Gove has just handed the leadership to May imo - I'm surprised that Boris caved in so easily.


MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Yertis said:
MarshPhantom said:
A large manority of Tory MPs want to remain.
You invented the perfect word there, well done! clap
Nice and non-committal.

Blue62

8,917 posts

153 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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BlackLabel said:
Gove has just handed the leadership to May imo - I'm surprised that Boris caved in so easily.

There's more to it than caving in, someone has forced his hand.

JNW1

7,804 posts

195 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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FredClogs said:
JNW1 said:
FredClogs said:
I can't see anyone winning this know other than May
You could well be right but if that happens the existing PM will have stood down on the basis he was a Remain supporter only to be replaced by his Home Secretary who was also a Remain supporter! I must be missing something but if Cameron is right to go on the basis he'd campaigned actively for Remain I don't really see how it can be appropriate to replace him with someone who campaigned on the same side and shared his views? confused
Can't see it makes that much difference, she is pretty anti immigration as we've seen on her work at the home office and I can't see fox or gove being better negotiators or being able to get a better deal than she can on the exit.
Again you might be right, the only point I'm making is that if Cameron stepped-down for the right reasons it doesn't make any sense to replace him with someone of a similar mindset (like May). Personally I'd rather Cameron had stayed on for the time being and I'd certainly prefer him as PM over any of the contenders that have thrown their hat in the ring to replace him; however, I realise that's not an option...

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Is Gove electable as PM in a GE (yes I lnow that's not how it is supposed to work but it's how it does)?

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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vonuber said:
Is Gove electable as PM in a GE (yes I lnow that's not how it is supposed to work but it's how it does)?
It depends on the competition doesn't it. Compared to the people currently leading the opposition I would say so, but that will change and it could be anyone in the future.


230TE

2,506 posts

187 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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vonuber said:
Is Gove electable as PM in a GE (yes I lnow that's not how it is supposed to work but it's how it does)?
I don't think so, and I'm a fan. He doesn't come across as a born leader - too much of an intellectual. You can give him a job and he'll do it brilliantly, but I don't think that's enough. I'm coming round to Theresa May - something of the early (pre-bonkers) Margaret Thatcher about her.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

129 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Gove mentioned unity twice recently today, but that's the opposite in Tory MP circles his change of plan has resulted in. How can he say that with any sense of accuracy?

It's like Jeremy saying the labour party has unity, the unity of one, Jeremy ! smile

Boris' dad, Stanley, sounds quite sensible ... better scalp follicle teaser also.


Sam All

3,101 posts

102 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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vonuber said:
Is Gove electable as PM in a GE (yes I lnow that's not how it is supposed to work but it's how it does)?
If the economy is doing well, and it all looks rosy, certainly. To the voters, do you see him as less attractive than May?