Tory Leadership Election
Poll: Tory Leadership Election
Total Members Polled: 433
Discussion
///ajd said:
She won't turn immediately.
She'll go through the motions for several months and work up a brexit-exit with Merkel.
She'll make alot about "getting the best possible deal for the UK"
Slowly she'll make the case that that means staying in.
Basically what Camerloon should have done in the first place.
She'll have to judge the timing carefully.
There are not enough brexit MPs to overturn her and the chaos of the current post brexit atmosphere is ample evidence to shove in the face of brexiters and say - "give over, the instability is killing us".
Well she can go down that route if she wants the Tories to have an E.L.E in the next election. She'll go through the motions for several months and work up a brexit-exit with Merkel.
She'll make alot about "getting the best possible deal for the UK"
Slowly she'll make the case that that means staying in.
Basically what Camerloon should have done in the first place.
She'll have to judge the timing carefully.
There are not enough brexit MPs to overturn her and the chaos of the current post brexit atmosphere is ample evidence to shove in the face of brexiters and say - "give over, the instability is killing us".
don4l said:
Three, or four days ago, I proposed that Leadsom would make the best leader.
I'm very pleased to see that her support is surging.
I think that she will be as good as Maggie was - perhaps even better.
Our resident lefties are not impressed by her. This is a good thing, IMHO.
She impressed during the Referendum debate. However, comes across as a lightweight and we have a heavyweight issue engulfing us. Any other situation, she'd be in with a much better chance.I'm very pleased to see that her support is surging.
I think that she will be as good as Maggie was - perhaps even better.
Our resident lefties are not impressed by her. This is a good thing, IMHO.
///ajd said:
She won't turn immediately.
She'll go through the motions for several months and work up a brexit-exit with Merkel.
She'll make alot about "getting the best possible deal for the UK"
Slowly she'll make the case that that means staying in.
Basically what Camerloon should have done in the first place.
She'll have to judge the timing carefully.
There are not enough brexit MPs to overturn her and the chaos of the current post brexit atmosphere is ample evidence to shove in the face of brexiters and say - "give over, the instability is killing us".
You would prefer this, but cannot see this happening.She'll go through the motions for several months and work up a brexit-exit with Merkel.
She'll make alot about "getting the best possible deal for the UK"
Slowly she'll make the case that that means staying in.
Basically what Camerloon should have done in the first place.
She'll have to judge the timing carefully.
There are not enough brexit MPs to overturn her and the chaos of the current post brexit atmosphere is ample evidence to shove in the face of brexiters and say - "give over, the instability is killing us".
///ajd said:
There are not enough brexit MPs to overturn her and the chaos of the current post brexit atmosphere is ample evidence to shove in the face of brexiters and say - "give over, the instability is killing us".
Wasn't May actually expected to back the Leave side anyway and her choice of Remain something of a surprise? Her support for Remain made Corbyn's efforts looks passionate. Several people thought May had died.I think you're kidding yourself a bit if you think May will be able to overturn the referendum result or will want to.
Interesting prediction of impact of brexit result....
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/why-the-leave-c...
Sam All said:
She impressed during the Referendum debate. However, comes across as a lightweight and we have a heavyweight issue engulfing us. Any other situation, she'd be in with a much better chance.
What makes you say she comes across as a lightweight ?In interviews I've seen with her she seems very competent and answers the questions better than most.
confused_buyer said:
///ajd said:
There are not enough brexit MPs to overturn her and the chaos of the current post brexit atmosphere is ample evidence to shove in the face of brexiters and say - "give over, the instability is killing us".
Wasn't May actually expected to back the Leave side anyway and her choice of Remain something of a surprise? Her support for Remain made Corbyn's efforts looks passionate. Several people thought May had died.I think you're kidding yourself a bit if you think May will be able to overturn the referendum result or will want to.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
///ajd said:
bmw535i said:
Someone just suggested that May is only saying "Brexit means Brexit" now, and she'll turn as soon as she is elected leader.
She won't turn immediately.She'll go through the motions for several months and work up a brexit-exit with Merkel.
She'll make alot about "getting the best possible deal for the UK"
Slowly she'll make the case that that means staying in.
Basically what Camerloon should have done in the first place.
She'll have to judge the timing carefully.
There are not enough brexit MPs to overturn her and the chaos of the current post brexit atmosphere is ample evidence to shove in the face of brexiters and say - "give over, the instability is killing us".
It strikes me that a full blown recession is the only thing that will make you ecstatically happy as it will square things in your troubled mind and you can shout from the rooftops "I was right and I told them so from the beginning".
Sam All said:
She impressed during the Referendum debate. However, comes across as a lightweight and we have a heavyweight issue engulfing us. Any other situation, she'd be in with a much better chance.
You would think that people would learn that a good performance in a television debate means very little. See Clegg, N.
GoodOlBoy said:
Sam All said:
She impressed during the Referendum debate. However, comes across as a lightweight and we have a heavyweight issue engulfing us. Any other situation, she'd be in with a much better chance.
What makes you say she comes across as a lightweight ?In interviews I've seen with her she seems very competent and answers the questions better than most.
vonuber said:
What chance leadsom is a sacrificial lamb to be discarded once this mess is over.
Its possible but risky.You mean she could be such a lightweight liability fumbling around the EU making ill advised demands and getting horribly outplayed to such an extent the need to u-turn is totally compelling?
Its possible but the damage could make the current mess look like just an entrée.
///ajd said:
vonuber said:
What chance leadsom is a sacrificial lamb to be discarded once this mess is over.
Its possible but risky.You mean she could be such a lightweight liability fumbling around the EU making ill advised demands and getting horribly outplayed to such an extent the need to u-turn is totally compelling?
Its possible but the damage could make the current mess look like just an entrée.
Chris Grayling & Leadsom would make a good team
She is, to be fair, a bit of a lightweight in political/governmental terms. A year in the Treasury in a relatively junior role, then just over a year in the Energy dept as a junior minister.
It doesn't show any material experience in European matters or treaty negotiations. She may have impressed in the TV debates, but tv debates aren't really a good indicator of much more than how telegenic a person is.
It doesn't show any material experience in European matters or treaty negotiations. She may have impressed in the TV debates, but tv debates aren't really a good indicator of much more than how telegenic a person is.
Greg66 said:
She is, to be fair, a bit of a lightweight in political/governmental terms. A year in the Treasury in a relatively junior role, then just over a year in the Energy dept as a junior minister.
It doesn't show any material experience in European matters or treaty negotiations. She may have impressed in the TV debates, but tv debates aren't really a good indicator of much more than how telegenic a person is.
Who would you suggest?It doesn't show any material experience in European matters or treaty negotiations. She may have impressed in the TV debates, but tv debates aren't really a good indicator of much more than how telegenic a person is.
Robertj21a said:
///ajd said:
May will walk it, and then walk us into staying in the EU. Phew!
Not a chance in hell. Democracy would be dead. I'm really not sure why so many people are still in denial, just because they don't like the result.Looks like others think May would take a "pragmatic not brexit at any cost" view too:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/685517/Andr...
But they may have a vested interest!!
Leadsom just comes across as pretty jeery and negative. Not in anyway statesman/woman like at all.
We are talking about our PM here. Leadsom is too near Katie Hopkins on the gravitas/credibility scale.
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