Tory Leadership Election

[tarnished]

Puggit said:

May: no Article 50 trigger until deal is clear.

That could be a very slow car crash.

[Puggit]

Nicky Morgan backing Gove.

Hunt backing May.

They can be removed from the poll

[Munter]

Halb said:

vonuber said:

May and Merkel would work well together i suspect.

What about May and Hilary...

Now all we need is a hot tub and a lot of custard....


...what. It's been a while ok!

[Puggit]

Munter said:

Now all we need is a hot tub and a lot of custard....


...what. It's been a while ok!

I was pleased to see May hid the 'cleavage' for her announcement

[markh1973]

Puggit said:

May: no Article 50 trigger until deal is clear.

Not quite what she said - she said no invoking Article 50 until the British negotiating position is clear.

[fizz47]

A bit disappointed with all the back stabbing etc...self- serving pricks

Regardless of who you prefer just like the Labour party they need to prevent infighting- Rather than giving personal attacks on why the OTHER person isn't good enough they should be concentrating on why themselves are best for the job..

[king arthur]

I can't see Gove being a popular PM somehow. He's a clever man but just doesn't come across well. Who knows what sort of shape the opposition will be in in 2020 though?

[Balmoral]

klootzak said:

Derek Smith said:

What confuses me is Gove's plan.

To shaft Boris and the posh boys. HTH.

The leaked email shows that Gove wanted an assurance of a senior cabinet position, for some reason that assurance was not forthcoming from Johnson. I suspect that it was forthcoming from May, as she made clear in her speech that there would be a new senior cabinet position created that must go to a brexiter. Boris has been outflanked.

[Axionknight]

The money must have really come in for May, she is 4/6, Gove is 3/1 and The Hair is 5/1.

Of course, Brexit was 7/1

[don'tbesilly]

Gove - PM
Leadsom - Chancellor (might lack experience, but worthy of a top job in the cabinet)

There are already murmurs within the EU about relaxing Freedom of Movement (shame they didn't do that before, mind you that's more of an indictment of Cameron's weak spine!), so hope there, and no general election necessary (not that there was anyway).

[Sam All]

fizz47 said:

A bit disappointed with all the back stabbing etc...self- serving pricks

Regardless of who you prefer just like the Labour party they need to prevent infighting- Rather than giving personal attacks on why the OTHER person isn't good enough they should be concentrating on why themselves are best for the job..

Dirty game, and would not be surprised if Cameron is pulling a few strings behind the scene.

[Axionknight]

ash73 said:

Haven't seen Theresa's speech yet but I understand she's made a u-turn on ECHR?

Seems that way.

[Sam All]

Axionknight said:

ash73 said:

Haven't seen Theresa's speech yet but I understand she's made a u-turn on ECHR?

Seems that way.

The Lady is for turning.

[vonuber]

Axionknight said:

Seems that way.

ECHR has nowt to do with brexit, it's a seperate institution, created with huge input from the british.

[ATG]

Glad to see Gove enter the race. Should split BJ's vote and make it more likely that someone vaguely sane, competent and with some electoral appeal wins ... i.e. neither BJ nor Gove. I've always taken a pretty dim view of May. She bullsts in order to sound tough. But at the moment she is the obvious old guard candidate, and stands a very good chance of winning. She's certainly one of the least bad candidates. But the party must look to the next election. I find it hard to believe that May can reach out to the broader electorate. The Conservatives really ought to take Crabb's candidacy very seriously.

[Mark Benson]

Derek Smith said:

What confuses me is Gove's plan. He's not stupid, but there's little chance of him winning.

Don't be so sure. Gove may well replace Boris as May's strongest competitor.

In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Boris steps aside and backs him.

Gove is a reformer and a conviction politician, if Brexit is to be driven through he would be far better at doing so that Boris.

[Dromedary66]

ash73 said:

Haven't seen Theresa's speech yet but I understand she's made a u-turn on ECHR?

I am utterly dissapointed by this, from Theresa May of all people! She has spent the last few years fighting against the ECHR to deport foreign murderers and being overturned. I'd have thought this would have been one of her top requirements.

[Sam All]

Dromedary66 said:

ash73 said:

Haven't seen Theresa's speech yet but I understand she's made a u-turn on ECHR?

I am utterly dissapointed by this, from Theresa May of all people! She has spent the last few years fighting against the ECHR to deport foreign murderers and being overturned. I'd have thought this would have been one of her top requirements.

Adopted Cameron's backbone.

[anonymous-user]

Derek Smith said:

What confuses me is Gove's plan. He's not stupid, but there's little chance of him winning. Further, if the vote is for the exit crafters the Johnson will get it and he'd probably be a bit miffed with Gove whom he felt was behind him.

There's been a spat I think, or else Johnson's support for the Norwegian option has ruffled his feathers.

I think Gove's plan is a straight block of Boris. Split the Leave vote, undermine Boris more generally. I agree there is probably a spat behind it. But bottom line is that the attack on Boris's leadership skills underlines a lot of people's suspicions. Whether it's true or not doesn't really matter, because the impression has now been made indelible.

May said last night that Boris or Gove would be her SoS for Brexit (a *very* smart piece of political manoeuvring, IMO). My guess is Gove has a specific guarantee from her to that effect.

[Axionknight]

vonuber said:

Axionknight said:

Seems that way.

ECHR has nowt to do with brexit, it's a seperate institution, created with huge input from the british.

I know.