2016 - a year of discontent?
Discussion
vonuber said:
I think haven given people the whiff of a voice, to go back to the archaic FPTP where your vote doesn't really matter will be interesting.
There seems to be a growing opinion that the UK should move to a proportional representation system. I don't know if this is just newspaper columnists and politicians from minor parties making noise, or whether there is a genuine shift.I'd like to see reform. I think that it'll be difficult in a parliament that's dominated by two parties who benefit from it, but it might happen.
If you're interested, The Independent gave a breakdown of the last election's results under PR.
Party : FPTP Seats / PR Seats
Conservatives: 331 / 242
Labour: 232 / 199
UKIP: 1 / 82
Lib Dems: 8 / 51
SNP: 56 / 31
Greens: 1 / 24
rs1952 said:
A response like that suggests that the reality of the situation hasn't dawned on you yet. Either.
Oh well, enjoy your euphoria whilst it lasts...
It's not euphoria, it's relief. For some of us this thing called democracy matters.Oh well, enjoy your euphoria whilst it lasts...
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 1st July 05:30
Graemsay said:
vonuber said:
I think haven given people the whiff of a voice, to go back to the archaic FPTP where your vote doesn't really matter will be interesting.
There seems to be a growing opinion that the UK should move to a proportional representation system. I don't know if this is just newspaper columnists and politicians from minor parties making noise, or whether there is a genuine shift.I'd like to see reform. I think that it'll be difficult in a parliament that's dominated by two parties who benefit from it, but it might happen.
If you're interested, The Independent gave a breakdown of the last election's results under PR.
Party : FPTP Seats / PR Seats
Conservatives: 331 / 242
Labour: 232 / 199
UKIP: 1 / 82
Lib Dems: 8 / 51
SNP: 56 / 31
Greens: 1 / 24
jamoor said:
Under 30s that have grown up around the EU and the notion of the single market have their liberties stripped away. Shame we werent able to keep going another 30-40 years so all of the people leading the EU had also grown up with it.
Oh yes the most vocal of the remain camp, oh how they've had their futures ruined.jamoor said:
Under 30s that have grown up around the EU and the notion of the single market have their liberties stripped away. Shame we werent able to keep going another 30-40 years so all of the people leading the EU had also grown up with it.
Maybe they should have turned out to vote in force then, rather than sat at home voting via Facebook...?Typical kids; can't be arsed to vote but plenty vocal when the outcome actually affects them.
Axionknight said:
Jockman said:
Remember Leicester FC won the Prem League.
As a Sunderland fan I'm hoping we can emulate their avoidance of the drop and then go on to win it.17th will do, mind.
Adam Johnson's final act was to score at Anfield. Couldn't you have binned him sooner?
rs1952 said:
We are in for a few years of discontent, as the reality dawns on some of those that voted out that:
1. The place will still be full of low-paid immigrants, otherwise a lot of farm produce will be left rotting in the ground because the locals won't dig it out for the money.
2. We won't be giving an extra £350m per week to the NHS
3. We won't be zero-rating VAT on fuel
4. We won't be reopening coal fired power stations or scrapping wind farms
5. We won't be rebuilding our fishing industry because there's not enough fish for 'em all to catch
6. Whitehall actually likes most EU regulations and will be fighting hard to keep it if anybody tries to get rid of it.
And so on...
give it a rest! 1. The place will still be full of low-paid immigrants, otherwise a lot of farm produce will be left rotting in the ground because the locals won't dig it out for the money.
2. We won't be giving an extra £350m per week to the NHS
3. We won't be zero-rating VAT on fuel
4. We won't be reopening coal fired power stations or scrapping wind farms
5. We won't be rebuilding our fishing industry because there's not enough fish for 'em all to catch
6. Whitehall actually likes most EU regulations and will be fighting hard to keep it if anybody tries to get rid of it.
And so on...
rs1952 said:
don'tbesilly said:
rs1952 said:
We are in for a few years of discontent, as the reality dawns on some of those that voted out that:
1. The place will still be full of low-paid immigrants, otherwise a lot of farm produce will be left rotting in the ground because the locals won't dig it out for the money.
2. We won't be giving an extra £350m per week to the NHS
3. We won't be zero-rating VAT on fuel
4. We won't be reopening coal fired power stations or scrapping wind farms
5. We won't be rebuilding our fishing industry because there's not enough fish for 'em all to catch
6. Whitehall actually likes most EU regulations and will be fighting hard to keep it if anybody tries to get rid of it.
And so on...
Geez, with that attitude can I suggest:1. The place will still be full of low-paid immigrants, otherwise a lot of farm produce will be left rotting in the ground because the locals won't dig it out for the money.
2. We won't be giving an extra £350m per week to the NHS
3. We won't be zero-rating VAT on fuel
4. We won't be reopening coal fired power stations or scrapping wind farms
5. We won't be rebuilding our fishing industry because there's not enough fish for 'em all to catch
6. Whitehall actually likes most EU regulations and will be fighting hard to keep it if anybody tries to get rid of it.
And so on...
http://www.samaritans.org/
Oh well, enjoy your euphoria whilst it lasts...
rs1952 said:
We are in for a few years of discontent, as the reality dawns on some of those that voted out that:
1. The place will still be full of low-paid immigrants, otherwise a lot of farm produce will be left rotting in the ground because the locals won't dig it out for the money.
They come on short contracts then go home, I know because I have a farmer near me who does just that.1. The place will still be full of low-paid immigrants, otherwise a lot of farm produce will be left rotting in the ground because the locals won't dig it out for the money.
The Beaver King said:
Maybe they should have turned out to vote in force then, rather than sat at home voting via Facebook...?
Typical kids; can't be arsed to vote but plenty vocal when the outcome actually affects them.
Its amazing how different the thinking is between generations. I'd say we can attribute part of it to EU legislation and part of it to firms like Ryanair and Easy jet.Typical kids; can't be arsed to vote but plenty vocal when the outcome actually affects them.
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