Farage stands down as UKIP leader
Discussion
don4l said:
Do you agree that the stock markets are doing very well at the moment?
Do you agree that these property funds are doing nowhere as good?
Where would you put your money at the moment?
Markets are doing surprisingly well considering.Do you agree that these property funds are doing nowhere as good?
Where would you put your money at the moment?
But other than the FTSE100 they are not doing "very well" at all.
That's the sort of comment you might get from someone who is in complete denial with their head buried in the sand.
FTSE is obviously doing well because of the plummeting GBP giving a huge translation boost to foreign earnings (c.40%, IIRC).
FTSE 250 is down -7% YTD.
MSCI World is down -5% YTD.
SXXP is down -11% YTD.
Yes commercial property is "doing nowhere as good".
I would be putting my money in cash, gold and short UK consumer-related (bonus prize for any with USD costs).
FTSE250 is up 8% over the last two weeks.
There is no point talking about YTD figures. We are discussing the changes in property funds. The only period that is relevant is the last two weeks.
Remember, I have made actual predictions on here. So far I have been spot on, despite people telling me that I am idiot.
At 7:45am on the 24 I advised that people pile into shares. I was mocked for about two hours, until it became obvious that I had been correct.
There is no point talking about YTD figures. We are discussing the changes in property funds. The only period that is relevant is the last two weeks.
Remember, I have made actual predictions on here. So far I have been spot on, despite people telling me that I am idiot.
At 7:45am on the 24 I advised that people pile into shares. I was mocked for about two hours, until it became obvious that I had been correct.
don4l said:
FTSE250 is up 8% over the last two weeks.
There is no point talking about YTD figures. We are discussing the changes in property funds. The only period that is relevant is the last two weeks.
Remember, I have made actual predictions on here. So far I have been spot on, despite people telling me that I am idiot.
At 7:45am on the 24 I advised that people pile into shares. I was mocked for about two hours, until it became obvious that I had been correct.
Oh I misunderstood.There is no point talking about YTD figures. We are discussing the changes in property funds. The only period that is relevant is the last two weeks.
Remember, I have made actual predictions on here. So far I have been spot on, despite people telling me that I am idiot.
At 7:45am on the 24 I advised that people pile into shares. I was mocked for about two hours, until it became obvious that I had been correct.
What you meant when you said "stock markets are doing very well" is "stock markets are doing very well after their unprecedented fall on the morning of the Brexit result"
alfie2244 said:
Well I am rubbing shoulders with Ghandi on the political compass thingy....whodathunkit?
Wonder where our very own immature Mr angry would sit?
Which Mr. Angry?Wonder where our very own immature Mr angry would sit?
There are many of them. That's what makes these threads such good value for money.
Somebody a few posts up is adamant that Nigel misled us. Where else can you find such comedy gold.
I think that I have found Trabi601 on YouTube. He seems very angry indeed. Spittle flecked rage
He is actually shaking with rage. I guess that he thinks a Brexit will push up the price of Hair dye.
On a more serious note. It is interesting to note that his solution to the current difficulties is a common army and more integration of police forces.
When some of us raised the possibility that these things were on the cards a few weeks ago, we were derided. Now it seems that three major reports have already been printed.
This post highlights the fact that we Leavers are happy to watch the Remainers in action. And yet, the Remainiacs have consistently shown that they cannot click a link if they think that they might see something that they don't like... even if it comes from one of their own.
don4l said:
This post highlights the fact that we Leavers are happy to watch the Remainers in action. And yet, the Remainiacs have consistently shown that they cannot click a link if they think that they might see something that they don't like... even if it comes from one of their own.
Rather than Remainers & Leavers, we are all patriots now. 
walm said:
don4l said:
FTSE250 is up 8% over the last two weeks.
There is no point talking about YTD figures. We are discussing the changes in property funds. The only period that is relevant is the last two weeks.
Remember, I have made actual predictions on here. So far I have been spot on, despite people telling me that I am idiot.
At 7:45am on the 24 I advised that people pile into shares. I was mocked for about two hours, until it became obvious that I had been correct.
Oh I misunderstood.There is no point talking about YTD figures. We are discussing the changes in property funds. The only period that is relevant is the last two weeks.
Remember, I have made actual predictions on here. So far I have been spot on, despite people telling me that I am idiot.
At 7:45am on the 24 I advised that people pile into shares. I was mocked for about two hours, until it became obvious that I had been correct.
What you meant when you said "stock markets are doing very well" is "stock markets are doing very well after their unprecedented fall on the morning of the Brexit result"
? I gave you some free advice a couple of weeks and you chose to ignore it. Suddenly you think that I am wrong. Well, I am not wrong. I run a stocks and shares ISA for both myself and my wife. I also have a stocks and shares SIPP, and a normal taxable trading account. I've done very well in the last two weeks.
You might think that you have to look at the long term. This just demonstrates that you know absolutely nothing at all about share trading. Why would you comment when you have no knowledge? This seems to be a common trait among Remainers. You all seem to think that you understand business, but hardly any of you have ever actually run one.
So, I'll offer you a little challenge. You start off with an 11% advantage.
Let us both imagine that we have £10,000 to invest. I will invest in an index tracker fund at tonight's close. (6590).
You have said that you would invest in cash, gold and something else (which I forget). Tell us how you would invest your £10,000, and we will see how we have done at close of play (4:30pm) on 30th of September.
No bets. No real money. £10,000 virtual pounds.
avinalarf said:
Trabi601 said:
Patriots or nationalists? Subtle, but important, distinction.
On page 18 of this topic I commented on your post,you may not have seen it.Take a look as I'd like to know your view.
Corbyn and the 'anti semite' accusations are difficult - can't remember where I heard / read this, but... ISIS are a terrorist organisation who believe they are a sovereign state, whereas Israel are a sovereign state who often behave like a terrorist organisation. This is not levelled at the Jewish, but at their administration, which, similarly to UKIP, preys on fear and insecurity.
Trabi601 said:
avinalarf said:
Trabi601 said:
Patriots or nationalists? Subtle, but important, distinction.
On page 18 of this topic I commented on your post,you may not have seen it.Take a look as I'd like to know your view.
Corbyn and the 'anti semite' accusations are difficult - can't remember where I heard / read this, but... ISIS are a terrorist organisation who believe they are a sovereign state, whereas Israel are a sovereign state who often behave like a terrorist organisation. This is not levelled at the Jewish, but at their administration, which, similarly to UKIP, preys on fear and insecurity.
Sam All said:
don4l said:
This post highlights the fact that we Leavers are happy to watch the Remainers in action. And yet, the Remainiacs have consistently shown that they cannot click a link if they think that they might see something that they don't like... even if it comes from one of their own.
Rather than Remainers & Leavers, we are all patriots now. I don't think that any Remainer will be able to watch this for more than 5 seconds.
Interestingly, the first comment is "This makes me patriotic! And I'm not even British!".
I'm foreign, and I loved it.
My Spanish wife loved it too. She said that it made her feel proud to live here.
Trabi601 said:
avinalarf said:
Trabi601 said:
Patriots or nationalists? Subtle, but important, distinction.
On page 18 of this topic I commented on your post,you may not have seen it.Take a look as I'd like to know your view.
Corbyn and the 'anti semite' accusations are difficult - can't remember where I heard / read this, but... ISIS are a terrorist organisation who believe they are a sovereign state, whereas Israel are a sovereign state who often behave like a terrorist organisation. This is not levelled at the Jewish, but at their administration, which, similarly to UKIP, preys on fear and insecurity.
One of your better efforts.
You are in good company Zod.
Trabi is almost as good as zygalski who, like yourself also has an excellent first class honours degree from Oxbridge.
Then again, I am just an uneducated, thick, racist, bigoted, retarded grade A moron who couldn't see your point of view...
... like the other 17,000,000 people who didn't agree with you.
Keep up the attacks. You know that you will eventually win against your inferiors.
Oh... wait a second. The referendum was two weeks ago.
Trabi601 said:
As always - UKIP have deliberately appealed to the racist and xenophobe to gain votes. The small minded, those who'll blame anyone but themselves for their plight. There are *some* reasoned and intelligent UKIP supporters, but the mainstay of their support are those who are closet racists and xenophobes. They have stolen votes from the traditional left, as many in the working and benefits classes are easily persuaded that it's all the fault of the immigrants. Sadly, they're wrong - but UKIP have preyed on their doubts and encouraged people to be openly racist / xenophobic.
Corbyn and the 'anti semite' accusations are difficult - can't remember where I heard / read this, but... ISIS are a terrorist organisation who believe they are a sovereign state, whereas Israel are a sovereign state who often behave like a terrorist organisation. This is not levelled at the Jewish, but at their administration, which, similarly to UKIP, preys on fear and insecurity.
UKIP is not the cause of racism and xenophobia it is the symptom.Corbyn and the 'anti semite' accusations are difficult - can't remember where I heard / read this, but... ISIS are a terrorist organisation who believe they are a sovereign state, whereas Israel are a sovereign state who often behave like a terrorist organisation. This is not levelled at the Jewish, but at their administration, which, similarly to UKIP, preys on fear and insecurity.
The cause is the failure of successive Governments and the Establishment worldwide to provide their people with...
1) Laws that are applied fairly and equally to all the people and that do not disadvantage the masses for the benefit of the few.
2) A peaceful environment where honest endeavour is fairly rewarded.
As regards racism and xenophobia,this is a latent phenomenon that is unfortunately present in most societies Worldwide.
It is the reluctance of politicians to address and acknowledge this unfortunate fact that makes it rear its ugly head.
They ignore the fears,perceived or otherwise,of their electorate at their peril.
Merkel's decision to encourage uncontrolled immigration has fuelled the fires of that phenomenon.
Edited by avinalarf on Saturday 9th July 10:04
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/12/two-att...
Article said:
At least two would-be attackers were caught trying to smuggle knives into campaign rallies attended by UKIP leader Nigel Farage before he stood down, it has been revealed.
It is also claimed that a surge in death threats against Mr. Farage and his family contributed to him stepping down as the leader of UKIP.
It is also claimed that a surge in death threats against Mr. Farage and his family contributed to him stepping down as the leader of UKIP.
Esseesse said:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/12/two-att...
There will always be intolerant violent or disturbed people about who want to physically attack those they disagree with... but I said it at the time and my worst concerns seem to be coming true, when Farage was attacked by protesters, then his family intimidated in a pub, the other political leaders had a responsibility to support Farage's right to campaign peacefully and to condemn the attacks on him. They didn't and now it's spread to other political parties.Article said:
At least two would-be attackers were caught trying to smuggle knives into campaign rallies attended by UKIP leader Nigel Farage before he stood down, it has been revealed.
It is also claimed that a surge in death threats against Mr. Farage and his family contributed to him stepping down as the leader of UKIP.
It is also claimed that a surge in death threats against Mr. Farage and his family contributed to him stepping down as the leader of UKIP.
Tory supporters being intimidated at their conference, a Labour MP killed, Labour MPs being threatened for not being Labour enough, threats to the Tory leadership contenders, even Angela Eagle has apparently had to abandon events today due to threats. Some of these attacks are from the mentally disturbed like Jo Cox's killer, but the tone has been set that attacking politicians is ok because when it was Farage the establishment didn't care. Even intolerant posters on here like Fred Clogs excused violent attacks on Farage because he doesn't like him.
I'm not sure what we can do to remedy this intolerance but it will need cross party support.
Esseesse said:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/12/two-att...
Were these two would-be assassins arrested and charged?Article said:
At least two would-be attackers were caught trying to smuggle knives into campaign rallies attended by UKIP leader Nigel Farage before he stood down, it has been revealed.
It is also claimed that a surge in death threats against Mr. Farage and his family contributed to him stepping down as the leader of UKIP.
It is also claimed that a surge in death threats against Mr. Farage and his family contributed to him stepping down as the leader of UKIP.
Countdown said:
Esseesse said:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/12/two-att...
Were these two would-be assassins arrested and charged?Article said:
At least two would-be attackers were caught trying to smuggle knives into campaign rallies attended by UKIP leader Nigel Farage before he stood down, it has been revealed.
It is also claimed that a surge in death threats against Mr. Farage and his family contributed to him stepping down as the leader of UKIP.
It is also claimed that a surge in death threats against Mr. Farage and his family contributed to him stepping down as the leader of UKIP.
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