Attempted abduction of serviceman at Marham

Attempted abduction of serviceman at Marham

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39,914 posts

196 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Troubleatmill said:
I would wager a bk that plenty who attend a mosque know who they are.
And they will be beating a path to the police station to grass them up.

But- that has not happened...
The problem is there appears to be a culture of protecting those who do evil because they share the same faith.

Grass the fkers out!!!

It cannot be that hard to work out who they are..
You'd lose that bo11ock.

The stupidity of some on here never fails to surprise. I'm not sure why people think that a "Community" always knows who the criminals in its midst are, what they are going to do and when they are going to do it. Which community was Jimmy Saville a part of and why did they protect him? Which community was max Clifford a part of and why did they protect him? Which community was Anders Breivik, or Ian Huntley, or Peter Sutcliffe, or harold Shipman, or Fred West a part of and why were they protected? the reasons are pretty simple (for those who have more than one brain cell). People who do criminal things don't tend to discuss it on some bulletin board. You might know that Barry Biceps down the Pub did a spell in the chokey a few years ago, you might know a guy called Terry Tattoos who drives an E46 M3 but has no visible signs of income. They're both dodgy geezers but that doesn't necessarily mean you of the Community know what they're actually up to sufficiently enough to let the Police know. In the same way there isn't a noticeboard in the corner advertising the next mosque fete and asking politely that Jihadis meet in the Tesco Car Partk promptly at 2pm.

At the moment we don't know if these people were muslims. Let's assume they were - there are a gazillion different types of muslims who (with regular frequency) split up and form splinter mosques. That's even before you get the splits between muslims of different countries, each of whom will go to a different mosque. It is not one amorphous Collective where everybody knows what everybody else is up to.



Sheets Tabuer

18,964 posts

215 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Countdown said:
It is not one amorphous Collective where everybody knows what everybody else is up to.
Yet one branch won't stand up and condemn another.

I'm sorry I'm really laid back and tolerant but I'm getting sick of the argument "not a real muslim" or "not the right muslim"

I've watched 20 years of it and I have enough muslim friends to know thats a load of bks

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Sheets Tabuer said:
I have enough muslim friends to know thats a load of bks
You or one of your mates must know who the guys are then?

Countdown

39,914 posts

196 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Alpinestars said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
I have enough muslim friends to know thats a load of bks
You or one of your mates must know who the guys are then?
Beat me to it.

Countdown

39,914 posts

196 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Countdown said:
It is not one amorphous Collective where everybody knows what everybody else is up to.
Yet one branch won't stand up and condemn another.
confused Are you mixing up two different things? Firstly there has been plenty of condemnation from all muslims. My post was in relation to a couple of suggestions that the "Community" was somehow sheltering these two people. i was trying to point out that there ISN'T one amorphous community and in any case a "community" doesn't usually know what the scrotes are up to

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Countdown said:
Alpinestars said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
I have enough muslim friends to know thats a load of bks
You or one of your mates must know who the guys are then?
Beat me to it.
He's still not fessed up though.

Rogue86

2,008 posts

145 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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To be honest, violence against servicemen near camp isnt a new thing. It just makes a change that its not because of them shagging all the local bograts.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Thankyou4calling said:
PositronicRay said:
Something about this doesn't seem to add up.
None of it adds up.

There wasn't an abduction attempt.
The whole incident is a bit strange, interesting to see how it develops.


Issi

1,782 posts

150 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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bmw535i said:
Rogue86 said:
bmw535i said:
You don't .
It did in Tidworth the other day - not many people knew. I was on duty and didn't know
Is it not displayed on a massive sign in the guardroom like it is on most camps?
Quite possibly, but I suppose that's great if you go to the guardroom
Didn't you say that you were a 'boss'?

Surely the bosses would know the Alert Status for that day?
Isn't it also on Part 1 orders?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Issi said:
bmw535i said:
Rogue86 said:
bmw535i said:
You don't .
It did in Tidworth the other day - not many people knew. I was on duty and didn't know
Is it not displayed on a massive sign in the guardroom like it is on most camps?
Quite possibly, but I suppose that's great if you go to the guardroom
Didn't you say that you were a 'boss'?

Surely the bosses would know the Alert Status for that day?
Isn't it also on Part 1 orders?
Of course, but if the alert state changes how do you suppose every single person is notified?



TLandCruiser

2,788 posts

198 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Alert states were also posted on standing orders if I remember

Issi

1,782 posts

150 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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As mentioned above.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Issi said:
As mentioned above.
It's quite simple, not everybody immediately knows every time there is an incident. They might only find out when they try to leave camp for example.

It's not really an issue - those who need to know, know.

Not everybody reads part 1 orders, even fewer read standing orders.

Issi

1,782 posts

150 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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bmw535i said:
Issi said:
As mentioned above.
It's quite simple, not everybody immediately knows every time there is an incident. They might only find out when they try to leave camp for example.

It's not really an issue - those who need to know, know.

Not everybody reads part 1 orders, even fewer read standing orders.
So what possible difference would it make to somebody on camp? They'd find out when they went to leave camp, which is how it should be.

As a 'boss' shouldn't you be getting a grip of those who don't read Part 1 orders?

Very strange unit that you're the 'boss' of.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Issi said:
So what possible difference would it make to somebody on camp? They'd find out when they went to leave camp, which is how it should be.

As a 'boss' shouldn't you be getting a grip of those who don't read Part 1 orders?

Very strange unit that you're the 'boss' of.
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Rogue86

2,008 posts

145 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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In fairness, if we ever got caught out not knowing SSOs we got an absolute chewing...

red_slr

17,243 posts

189 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Reports of a second attempt this AM in Hampshire.

Sounds a bit sus given the time frame and time between events but we will see.


PoleDriver

28,640 posts

194 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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red_slr said:
Reports of a second attempt this AM in Hampshire.

Sounds a bit sus given the time frame and time between events but we will see.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/03/british-soldier-escapes-abduction-bid-outside-aldershot-barracks/

mikemike08

1,609 posts

94 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Read the article again and tell me what it says?

Telegraph is the new daily mail

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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PoleDriver said:
The initial details suggest that it's a bit of a stretch for the papers to be describing this as an "attempted abduction".


telegraph said:
Two men were seen acting suspiciously in a blue Renault Clio," a force spokesman said.

"At this stage there is nothing to suggest that a crime has been committed but we are looking into why the two men had stopped the car on this stretch of road."

They added: "No contact was made between the two men and the person reporting the incident, who is a civilian member of staff who works within the military complex at Aldershot."