Shots fired in Munich shopping centre?

[dr_gn]

So there were 3 gunmen, in a crowded shopping centre and the surrounding area, and 6 people are confirmed as killed?

Six?

[jjlynn27]

br d said:

Witnesses report seeing a "long barrelled gun", yet there is no information on the background of the perpetrators. Surely if you're close enough to see details of the weapon then you would have some idea of the gunmans background?

Is it 'better' or 'worse' if it turns out that it's from a or b background?

[Digga]

If the EU doesn't control its own borders, staying in gave us little to no control by extension. That's the key issue.

[br d]

jjlynn27 said:

br d said:

Witnesses report seeing a "long barrelled gun", yet there is no information on the background of the perpetrators. Surely if you're close enough to see details of the weapon then you would have some idea of the gunmans background?

Is it 'better' or 'worse' if it turns out that it's from a or b background?

How does your question relate to my point?

It appears that some information is being released while other information is being held back. Of course it's a chaotic situation so everything is in flux.

[anonymous-user]

dr_gn said:

So there were 3 gunmen, in a crowded shopping centre and the surrounding area, and 6 people are confirmed as killed?

Six?

Perhaps they selected only certain people.

[PoleDriver]

Twiglets said:

Does anyone know if this is genuine? Can't see why someone would be filming him.
https://mobile.twitter.com/NUFCinnocent/status/756...

Publicity!?

[f1restarter]

Has Merkel made any statement yet? Is she still around?

[anonymous-user]

[quote=Digga]If the EU doesn't control its own borders, staying in gave us little to no control by extension. That's the key issue.[/quote
Off topic but you are wrong .'migrants' have to wait many years for an EU passport & our border control check everyone. So no different in or out..

[dr_gn]

br d said:

jjlynn27 said:

br d said:

Witnesses report seeing a "long barrelled gun", yet there is no information on the background of the perpetrators. Surely if you're close enough to see details of the weapon then you would have some idea of the gunmans background?

Is it 'better' or 'worse' if it turns out that it's from a or b background?

How does your question relate to my point?

It appears that some information is being released while other information is being held back. Of course it's a chaotic situation so everything is in flux.

Munich Police says: no indications of islamic terror

Something (or someone) must have prompted that statement, since the gunmen are apparently still at large.

[br d]

anonymous said:

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Looking at that video it doesn't look as if he is picking out anyone in particular Voight.

[dr_gn]

anonymous said:

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If it remains at 6 it seems a miraculously low figure.

[AJL308]

br d said:

Witnesses report seeing a "long barrelled gun", yet there is no information on the background of the perpetrators. Surely if you're close enough to see details of the weapon then you would have some idea of the gunmans background?

Not necessarily. It's well known that victims confronted by criminals with guns will fixate on the gun. I think it was even mentioned in the Godfather film when Michael Corleone shot the two guys in the restaurant - "just walk out of the place calmly...they'll all be looking at the gun", or words to that effect.

[JawKnee]

Digga said:

If the EU doesn't control its own borders, staying in gave us little to no control by extension. That's the key issue.

We aren't part of Schengen. It makes no difference whatsoever.

[Vitorio]

dr_gn said:

If it remains at 6 it seems a miraculously low figure.

Casualty count upped to 7 now

But yeah, three armed gunmen, if "we" get away with only 7 lives lost, that is a borderline miracle.

[London424]

Just saw this on Twitter

https://twitter.com/thenordicnation/status/7565810...

[AJL308]

Jimboka]igga said:

If the EU doesn't control its own borders, staying in gave us little to no control by extension. That's the key issue.[/quote
Off topic but you are wrong .'migrants' have to wait many years for an EU passport & our border control check everyone. So no different in or out..

Yes but some of them will be 'sleepers' (as opposed to the ones who have already gone postal) so will wait until everyone thinks they are safe before they go nuts.

We're best off out.

[br d]

AJL308 said:

br d said:

Witnesses report seeing a "long barrelled gun", yet there is no information on the background of the perpetrators. Surely if you're close enough to see details of the weapon then you would have some idea of the gunmans background?

Not necessarily. It's well known that victims confronted by criminals with guns will fixate on the gun. I think it was even mentioned in the Godfather film when Michael Corleone shot the two guys in the restaurant - "just walk out of the place calmly...they'll all be looking at the gun", or words to that effect.

Yep, very good point AJL.
Very easy to pick up on details that appear obvious from the comfort and safety of my home, the situation would be entirely different if I was caught up in the horror and chaos of the event.

[AJL308]

JawKnee said:

We aren't part of Schengen. It makes no difference whatsoever.

Yes it does because when they get an EU passport we can't keep them out.

Well, now we'll be able to as we won't be in the EU!

[br d]

Eight now, I fear this will continue to rise.

[davepoth]

f1restarter said:

Has Merkel made any statement yet? Is she still around?

Something weird is going on with Merkel. The BBC had:

Staff at the Chancellor's office met this evening to assess the situation but Chancellor Angela Merkel was not present, DPA (German Press Agency) said.