Shots fired in Munich shopping centre?
Discussion
T5XARV said:
You're catching on Greg.
Although it is of course the policy of mass uncontrolled immigration that is to blame rather than the individuals who are, to a man, hardworking, honest and grateful to the country of destination and bring with them many examples of their vibrant ways in order to enrich our bland and tepid culture.
You shouldn't be so harsh on Lincoln 'culture'. It's not that bad. Although it is of course the policy of mass uncontrolled immigration that is to blame rather than the individuals who are, to a man, hardworking, honest and grateful to the country of destination and bring with them many examples of their vibrant ways in order to enrich our bland and tepid culture.
Greg66 said:
Digga said:
Whilst it seems clear we can dismiss IS and Islam, immigration is likely a factor that influenced here.
Huh?So either the immigrants are doing the attacking and directly to blame, or they are provoking the attacks and indirectly to blame?
Wow. They really are a menace, aren't they?
The poor victims are blameless. The German government may be less so, in terms of how the immigration situation has been handled.
Digga said:
learly, the lad had severe mental issues. This seems to me to be done with the mindset of a far-right, anti-immigrant extremist. That's all.
The poor victims are blameless. The German government may be less so, in terms of how the immigration situation has been handled.
Re-read the thread. Almost 20 pages of how it's another isis/islam inspired atrocity, with inevitable, rather idiotic 'snackbar/religion of peace' quips. To the point of that moron (and I don't use that term lightly) ajl something suggesting to 'nuke them'. Rather depressing reading. The poor victims are blameless. The German government may be less so, in terms of how the immigration situation has been handled.
jjlynn27 said:
Digga said:
learly, the lad had severe mental issues. This seems to me to be done with the mindset of a far-right, anti-immigrant extremist. That's all.
The poor victims are blameless. The German government may be less so, in terms of how the immigration situation has been handled.
Re-read the thread. Almost 20 pages of how it's another isis/islam inspired atrocity, with inevitable, rather idiotic 'snackbar/religion of peace' quips. To the point of that moron (and I don't use that term lightly) ajl something suggesting to 'nuke them'. Rather depressing reading. The poor victims are blameless. The German government may be less so, in terms of how the immigration situation has been handled.
Even when it arrives, some refuse to believe - look at the Bataclan torture claims. Only 'evidence' is an edited transcript of the inquiry created by Infowars/Louise Mensch, yet some still think there's a cover-up.
Edited by rscott on Sunday 24th July 11:24
jjlynn27 said:
Digga said:
learly, the lad had severe mental issues. This seems to me to be done with the mindset of a far-right, anti-immigrant extremist. That's all.
The poor victims are blameless. The German government may be less so, in terms of how the immigration situation has been handled.
Re-read the thread. Almost 20 pages of how it's another isis/islam inspired atrocity, with inevitable, rather idiotic 'snackbar/religion of peace' quips. To the point of that moron (and I don't use that term lightly) ajl something suggesting to 'nuke them'. Rather depressing reading. The poor victims are blameless. The German government may be less so, in terms of how the immigration situation has been handled.
I mentioned this, purely because the reported words of the attacker led many to believe he was German and far right. As it turns out, he is German and the fact he's of Iranian descent seems possibly to be of little bearing. Books found at his home suggest he may have been trying to emulate Brevik. It is a maverick case.
Digga said:
jjlynn27 said:
Digga said:
learly, the lad had severe mental issues. This seems to me to be done with the mindset of a far-right, anti-immigrant extremist. That's all.
The poor victims are blameless. The German government may be less so, in terms of how the immigration situation has been handled.
Re-read the thread. Almost 20 pages of how it's another isis/islam inspired atrocity, with inevitable, rather idiotic 'snackbar/religion of peace' quips. To the point of that moron (and I don't use that term lightly) ajl something suggesting to 'nuke them'. Rather depressing reading. The poor victims are blameless. The German government may be less so, in terms of how the immigration situation has been handled.
I mentioned this, purely because the reported words of the attacker led many to believe he was German and far right. As it turns out, he is German and the fact he's of Iranian descent seems possibly to be of little bearing. Books found at his home suggest he may have been trying to emulate Brevik. It is a maverick case.
Maverick, but if it convinces the Islamic terrorists to hang up their guns, good news for all. I very much doubt it.
Oakey said:
Sure, it's totally unreasonable for people to assume this sort of thing might be Islamic nutjobs. It's not like there's a precedent for that sort of thing recently. Even IS assumed it was someone doing it in their name!
Lets assume that every murder in and around Spalding is a result of unhinged builder who'll shoot their family. Or, you could wait and see what it is before coming with cretinous 'snackbar' comments.
Oakey said:
Sure, it's totally unreasonable for people to assume this sort of thing might be Islamic nutjobs. It's not like there's a precedent for that sort of thing recently. Even IS assumed it was someone doing it in their name!
That's completely missing IS' MO. They will claim responsibility for any terrorist like act. Think about it. The PH Alan Snackbars and IS are on the same side on this point. To not understand that is exceptionally naive. Mr_B said:
So the woman in the McDonald's with him who reported him shouting allahu akbar has been discounted as a false claim ?
Not heard much more about her. I don't think any other witnesses have corroborated her claims? The German police haven't found any evidence of any link to any Muslim groups.rscott said:
Mr_B said:
So the woman in the McDonald's with him who reported him shouting allahu akbar has been discounted as a false claim ?
Not heard much more about her. I don't think any other witnesses have corroborated her claims? The German police haven't found any evidence of any link to any Muslim groups.Sounds like a mental issue killing - similar to the ones we seem to have in the US.
s1962a said:
Aren't Iranians meant to be Shia muslims? You know, the ones IS are totally against? I doubt even if it was religiously motivated it would be anything to do with IS. Also does Iran have any terrorist groups that could claim this?
Sounds like a mental issue killing - similar to the ones we seem to have in the US.
It's quite a mixed bag - many who left at the time of the revolution weren't muslims and many of those who were would be classed as very liberal. If the family left as a result of the revolution it is likely that they are very secular in their outlook, as are all the Iranians I know (admittedly a pretty small sample).Sounds like a mental issue killing - similar to the ones we seem to have in the US.
s1962a said:
Aren't Iranians meant to be Shia muslims? You know, the ones IS are totally against? I doubt even if it was religiously motivated it would be anything to do with IS. Also does Iran have any terrorist groups that could claim this?
Yep 
IS attacked the Hazara (Shia) demonstration in Kabul a few days ago.s1962a said:
Aren't Iranians meant to be Shia muslims? You know, the ones IS are totally against? I doubt even if it was religiously motivated it would be anything to do with IS. Also does Iran have any terrorist groups that could claim this?
Sounds like a mental issue killing - similar to the ones we seem to have in the US.
Not a chance that an Iranian would want any association with IS. Culturally, Iran and the Arabs are an ocean apart. Sounds like a mental issue killing - similar to the ones we seem to have in the US.
Iranians do get seriously offended by being called or grouped together with the Arab nations and I wonder if that association with turks etc has triggered this chaps chaos.
Iranians are a chameleon race - they live pretty much anywhere and do their own thing. They carry their culture within - first you are Iranian, then you are a Muslim, or a Christian or anything else.
jjlynn27 said:
Oakey said:
Sure, it's totally unreasonable for people to assume this sort of thing might be Islamic nutjobs. It's not like there's a precedent for that sort of thing recently. Even IS assumed it was someone doing it in their name!
Lets assume that every murder in and around Spalding is a result of unhinged builder who'll shoot their family. Or, you could wait and see what it is before coming with cretinous 'snackbar' comments.
T5XARV said:
jjlynn27 said:
Oakey said:
Sure, it's totally unreasonable for people to assume this sort of thing might be Islamic nutjobs. It's not like there's a precedent for that sort of thing recently. Even IS assumed it was someone doing it in their name!
Lets assume that every murder in and around Spalding is a result of unhinged builder who'll shoot their family. Or, you could wait and see what it is before coming with cretinous 'snackbar' comments.
T5XARV said:
jjlynn27 said:
Oakey said:
Sure, it's totally unreasonable for people to assume this sort of thing might be Islamic nutjobs. It's not like there's a precedent for that sort of thing recently. Even IS assumed it was someone doing it in their name!
Lets assume that every murder in and around Spalding is a result of unhinged builder who'll shoot their family. Or, you could wait and see what it is before coming with cretinous 'snackbar' comments.
So angry and afraid. Perhaps not that surprising;http://thelincolnite.co.uk/2014/07/lincoln-bottom-...
rscott said:
T5XARV said:
jjlynn27 said:
Oakey said:
Sure, it's totally unreasonable for people to assume this sort of thing might be Islamic nutjobs. It's not like there's a precedent for that sort of thing recently. Even IS assumed it was someone doing it in their name!
Lets assume that every murder in and around Spalding is a result of unhinged builder who'll shoot their family. Or, you could wait and see what it is before coming with cretinous 'snackbar' comments.
You're at home alone and you hear a key in the lock. Do you think 'oh, the wifes home' or 'who could that be ?'....its all about routine and pattern of behaviour.
Recent behaviour by followers of islam have created a distinct pattern.
T5XARV said:
Its a normal, human reaction to assume.
You're at home alone and you hear a key in the lock. Do you think 'oh, the wifes home' or 'who could that be ?'....its all about routine and pattern of behaviour.
Recent behaviour by followers of islam have created a distinct pattern.
Tough to stomach, but true. You're at home alone and you hear a key in the lock. Do you think 'oh, the wifes home' or 'who could that be ?'....its all about routine and pattern of behaviour.
Recent behaviour by followers of islam have created a distinct pattern.
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