Shots fired in Munich shopping centre?

[GG89]

Even if the press don't make a big story of it, social media will and then there will be outrage that they (government/press) are trying to hide these atrocities and sweep them under the carpet.

Edited by GG89 on Sunday 24th July 18:03

[aeropilot]

Trabi601 said:

GG89 said:

Trabi601 said:

I think the press need to look at themselves with how all this is being reported.

We have a few nut-jobs who have seen other nut-jobs achieve notoriety, so are now motivating themselves to get out there and get themselves noticed.

Did anyone here comment on the German nurse who was convicted last month of multiple murders? - I'm guessing they didn't, even though his death count is more than all the recent attacks added together.

Knife murder in a kebab shop in a small German town - a month ago, it would't even have been on our radar.

Do you suggest they don't let us know any of it?

I'm suggesting that 24/7 reporting, speculation, live feeds, etc., are feeding nut-jobs with the desire to go and and make a name for themselves.

Report it, by all means, but don't make it a big story. The desire to copy will lessen if there's little publicity in doing it.

We don't report every murder in Germany on UK television or in UK newspapers - why feed the nut-jobs now?

Stop it - sensible posts aren't allowed on here

The trouble is the media of today just won't see that angle.

[Sam All]

Trabi601 said:

I'm suggesting that 24/7 reporting, speculation, live feeds, etc., are feeding nut-jobs with the desire to go and and make a name for themselves.

Report it, by all means, but don't make it a big story. The desire to copy will lessen if there's little publicity in doing it.

We don't report every murder in Germany on UK television or in UK newspapers - why feed the nut-jobs now?

Some of what you say is right. I suppose anything classified as terrorism/mass shooting/religious/immigrant will generate more media attention than everyday events that have been occurring forever.

We both have just fed the 24/7 world

[Trabi601]

GG89 said:

Even if the press don't make a big story of it, social media will and then there will be outrage that they (government/press) are trying to hide these atrocities and sweep them under the carpet.

Edited by GG89 on Sunday 24th July 18:03

Good point - I haven't factored in the xenophobes, racists, far right activists and anyone else who delights in blaming 'Snackbars' for everything.

[Sam All]

Trabi601 said:

Good point - I haven't factored in the xenophobes, racists, far right activists and anyone else who delights in blaming 'Snackbars' for everything.

Accusations as defence.

And if "snackbars" went on strike, win-win. Talk to them.

[dandarez]

Trabi601 said:

GG89 said:

Even if the press don't make a big story of it, social media will and then there will be outrage that they (government/press) are trying to hide these atrocities and sweep them under the carpet.

Edited by GG89 on Sunday 24th July 18:03

Good point - I haven't factored in the xenophobes, racists, far right activists and anyone else who delights in blaming 'Snackbars' for everything.

Come on, come on...

you're nearly there...

ONE THOUSAND posts!

And all since 2nd May this year.

Will you get to the magic 1000 in just 3 months (on 2 August)?

I'll wager a bet you'll do it easily.





WTF did you do before you came on here?

[Sam All]

Reported on Sky this is not terrorrist related, likely to be a family issue - deceased wife of the Syran attacker.

[Mothersruin]

And another one....

[rich85uk]

Trabi601 said:

I think the press need to look at themselves with how all this is being reported.

We have a few nut-jobs who have seen other nut-jobs achieve notoriety, so are now motivating themselves to get out there and get themselves noticed.

Did anyone here comment on the German nurse who was convicted last month of multiple murders? - I'm guessing they didn't, even though his death count is more than all the recent attacks added together.

Knife murder in a kebab shop in a small German town - a month ago, it would't even have been on our radar.

You raise a valid point but several of those nut jobs pledged their alliance to ISIS before the attacks and ISIS afterwards warned of more lone woft syle attacks on smaller German towns and cities, seeing as the man is a Syrian refugee this could be the next attack they warned about or it could be completely unrelated

I do feel that the whole 24/7 news reporting does play into the hands of ISIS though and the past few attacks constantly in the news will only inspire more to join ISIS or pledge an alliance just before carrying out an attack

[Puggit]

Sam All said:

Reported on Sky this is not terrorrist related, likely to be a family issue - deceased wife of the Syran attacker.

Apparently a passers-by by took out the Syrian nut job by wiping him out with his car.

[s3fella]

Puggit said:

Apparently a passers-by by took out the Syrian nut job by wiping him out with his car.

At last, someone manages to do what I'd like to think I'd do if I were driving past.

Machete 0 stty battered VW polo 1! And reverse over the to make sure.

[aeropilot]

Sam All said:

Reported on Sky this is not terrorrist related, likely to be a family issue - deceased wife of the Syran attacker.

Aah, so thats all right then.....nothing to see here

[Mothersruin]

aeropilot said:

Sam All said:

Reported on Sky this is not terrorrist related, likely to be a family issue - deceased wife of the Syran attacker.

Aah, so thats all right then.....nothing to see here

Yeah, he's got an allocation of four so one down won't be an issue.

[Bodo]

The attacker was employed in a Turkish Kebap house; the Polish lady he killed was also employed at that Kebap house. The attacker - who was known for other crimes to the police already - was indeed (eyewitness: deliberately) wiped out by a white BMW, as he crossed the street with the machete in his hand.

eta: http://www.bz-berlin.de/deutschland/eine-tote-mann...

Well, those news sites don't have consistent information yet: apparently, the son of the Kebap house owner drove the white BMW. And the lady was his girlfriend and pregnant.

Edited by Bodo on Sunday 24th July 20:22

[BigLion]

rscott said:

T5XARV said:

jjlynn27 said:

Oakey said:

Sure, it's totally unreasonable for people to assume this sort of thing might be Islamic nutjobs. It's not like there's a precedent for that sort of thing recently. Even IS assumed it was someone doing it in their name!

Lets assume that every murder in and around Spalding is a result of unhinged builder who'll shoot their family.
Or, you could wait and see what it is before coming with cretinous 'snackbar' comments.

Theres nothing wrong with Oakeys assertion that it would be reasonable to assume IS. Unlike your response which is idiotic and infantile.

So you still think it's reasonable to assume any future attack in Germany is by IS until proven otherwise? Surely a more rational response is to not assume any one group is behind it and to wait for evidence?

You can really see how many are getting so defensive they are unable to engage their brain
The last 8 terrorist attacks in 2016 alone in Western Europe were directly related to Islam - of course it's fking natural to assume it is another one of them fools when something hits the headlines.

I'm sorry but In the case of terrorism it's Islam related until proven otherwise given the world we're in.

[Trabi601]

BigLion said:

You can really see how many are getting so defensive they are unable to engage their brain
The last 8 terrorist attacks in 2016 alone in Western Europe were directly related to Islam - of course it's fking natural to assume it is another one of them fools when something hits the headlines.

I'm sorry but In the case of terrorism it's Islam related until proven otherwise given the world we're in.

That kind of attitude really doesn't help any side.

[BigLion]

Trabi601 said:

BigLion said:

You can really see how many are getting so defensive they are unable to engage their brain
The last 8 terrorist attacks in 2016 alone in Western Europe were directly related to Islam - of course it's fking natural to assume it is another one of them fools when something hits the headlines.

I'm sorry but In the case of terrorism it's Islam related until proven otherwise given the world we're in.

That kind of attitude really doesn't help any side.

Why are you talking about sides? I thought it was all of us vs. ISIS?

[GG89]

Trabi601 said:

BigLion said:

You can really see how many are getting so defensive they are unable to engage their brain
The last 8 terrorist attacks in 2016 alone in Western Europe were directly related to Islam - of course it's fking natural to assume it is another one of them fools when something hits the headlines.

I'm sorry but In the case of terrorism it's Islam related until proven otherwise given the world we're in.

That kind of attitude really doesn't help any side.

What kind of attitude?

He is spot on.

[Trabi601]

GG89 said:

What kind of attitude?

He is spot on.

Given that 2 of the last 3 attacks seem to have absolutely nothing to do with ISIS or being a 'Snackbar', it's a very dangerous and small minded way to think.

The blatant, open and seemingly acceptance of racism on this forum is quite shocking.

[Countdown]

Trabi601 said:

Given that 2 of the last 3 attacks seem to have absolutely nothing to do with ISIS or being a 'Snackbar', it's a very dangerous and small minded way to think.

The blatant, open and seemingly acceptance of racism on this forum is quite shocking.

Just noticed you're new around here......