Germany again...

[Trabi601]

Sam All said:

Trabi - the master apologist. One day he will be right.

I've been right more often than those who shout 'because Muslim' every time there's a reported incident!

It's incredibly tiresome that any kind of event like this is now automatically assumed to be the fault of a Muslim. Almost as tiresome as the claims that governments are now carrying out some kind of cover-up operation.

[Sam All]

In the last two months ?

[dandarez]

jjlynn27 said:

alfie2244 said:

jjlynn27 said:

alfie2244 said:

The number and frequency of your postings are the only thing of any real interest.. with the content being 99% crap.

Happy 1K+ btw....how long to get to 2k?

lol. Get a hobby. That's actually quite sad.

So says the bloke that seems to spend half his life on here lol

Hahaha, as that numpty on the other thread; I do understand why it seems like that to you. Some of us are just not slow. Old people are funny.

You fking ageist git!

Is that why your username was something 'leagues' in a previous PH life? You're always wet!

You're not slow, eh? I'll bet my bottom dollar you are fast!
What at?
Sex probably.
See. Getting all 'wet' again!

Slow down sucker!

You'll be alright in the end though, it gets better with experience and age, like everything.

[skyrover]

Trabi601 said:

skyrover said:

Trabi601 said:

(Stupidly, I didn't google in French, only in English, when looking for reports - but even the French reporting is low key, which shows that it's really not considered to be unusual)

Really?

Youth violence, vandalism and arson in some parts of France is an everyday occurrence.

perpetrated by whom?

[Sam All]

skyrover said:

Trabi601 said:

skyrover said:

Trabi601 said:

(Stupidly, I didn't google in French, only in English, when looking for reports - but even the French reporting is low key, which shows that it's really not considered to be unusual)

Really?

Youth violence, vandalism and arson in some parts of France is an everyday occurrence.

perpetrated by whom?

Clue, majority of the prison population is one group - but makes up less than 10% of the population.

[alfie2244]

dandarez said:

You fking ageist git!

Is that why your username was something 'leagues' in a previous PH life? You're always wet!

You're not slow, eh? I'll bet my bottom dollar you are fast!
What at?
Sex probably.
See. Getting all 'wet' again!

Slow down sucker!

You'll be alright in the end though, it gets better with experience and age, like everything.

Never sure if it's all mouth and trouser or all mouth and no trousers - either way actions speak louder than words.... our friend JJ / league has refused to reply as yet

alfie2244 said:

Talking of hobbies.........being a motorsports based forum perhaps we should have an old fogies V young whippersnappers charity racing challenge - Karting or Saloons your choice.

But 1st could you please clarify your definition of "old" as I might just end up in the whippersnappers team.

Edited by alfie2244 on Wednesday 3rd August 23:48

[Oakey]

Trabi601 said:

So, we now know it happened, but not who did it. That is still just speculation.

(Stupidly, I didn't google in French, only in English, when looking for reports - but even the French reporting is low key, which shows that it's really not considered to be unusual)

I googled in English, it's about the 5th result for 'saint denis bus fire'

[Trabi601]

Oakey said:

Trabi601 said:

So, we now know it happened, but not who did it. That is still just speculation.

(Stupidly, I didn't google in French, only in English, when looking for reports - but even the French reporting is low key, which shows that it's really not considered to be unusual)

I googled in English, it's about the 5th result for 'saint denis bus fire'

I see nothing, other than speculative stories quoting from Live Leak. Nothing from mainstream media - I have to google in French to see any reporting from recognised and reputable sources. None of whom give any detail over the identity of the attackers.

[Trabi601]

skyrover said:

perpetrated by whom?

Disenfranchised French born youths. Some will be 2nd, 3rd or more generation immigrants who are marginalised by the French government and 'native' French population.

Been going on for decades, and until the French make more of an effort to integrate immigrants (many of whom are from their former colonies), such incidents will continue.

(which is why it was absolute madness to have Russia and England playing in Lille - a city with a well known history of rioting and other anti-social activities)

[skyrover]

Trabi601 said:

skyrover said:

perpetrated by whom?

Disenfranchised French born youths. Some will be 2nd, 3rd or more generation immigrants who are marginalised by the French government and 'native' French population.

Been going on for decades, and until the French make more of an effort to integrate immigrants (many of whom are from their former colonies), such incidents will continue.

(which is why it was absolute madness to have Russia and England playing in Lille - a city with a well known history of rioting and other anti-social activities)

I suppose it begs the question... do they want to integrate?

2nd/3rd generation... that's a lot of time to get used to your surroundings.

[Sam All]

Trabi601 said:

Disenfranchised French born youths. Some will be 2nd, 3rd or more generation immigrants who are marginalised by the French government and 'native' French population.

Been going on for decades, and until the French make more of an effort to integrate immigrants (many of whom are from their former colonies), such incidents will continue.

Any particular faith? Would it be easier if all native French converted?

[V8mate]

Sam All said:

skyrover said:

Trabi601 said:

skyrover said:

Trabi601 said:

(Stupidly, I didn't google in French, only in English, when looking for reports - but even the French reporting is low key, which shows that it's really not considered to be unusual)

Really?

Youth violence, vandalism and arson in some parts of France is an everyday occurrence.

perpetrated by whom?

Clue, majority of the prison population is one group - but makes up less than 10% of the population.

Majority of the national football team too

[steveT350C]

Armed man 'covered in blood' holed up in German restaurant

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/697379/Armed-m...

[ThunderGuts]

It's ok chaps, I have it on good authority that this kind of thing really isn't unusual

[Puggit]

No mental health terrorist indications at this point according to local police

[rscott]

According to that link, he's the son in law of the owner and is from Macedonia, but has lived in Germany for many years.

Haven't been able to find out from a quick google - does anyone know the religion breakdown of refugees/immigrants from Macedonia to Germany? Does it reflect the population there (2/3 Christian, 1/3 Muslim).

[Bodo]

The man has been caught sleeping in the basement of the restaurant. He did not have a weapon, nor has he threatened anyone.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/spezialeinheit-ueberwae...

[rscott]

Bodo said:

The man has been caught sleeping in the basement of the restaurant. He did not have a weapon, nor has he threatened anyone.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/spezialeinheit-ueberwae...

So the Express might have over exaggerated their report a bit? Who'd have thought it!

[rscott]

V8mate said:

Sam All said:

skyrover said:

Trabi601 said:

skyrover said:

Trabi601 said:

(Stupidly, I didn't google in French, only in English, when looking for reports - but even the French reporting is low key, which shows that it's really not considered to be unusual)

Really?

Youth violence, vandalism and arson in some parts of France is an everyday occurrence.

perpetrated by whom?

Clue, majority of the prison population is one group - but makes up less than 10% of the population.

Majority of the national football team too

Remember the fuss Pegida kicked up when Kinder put non-white children on their wrappers.... Turned out they were childhood photos of the German national football team ( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3608691/Ge... )

[steveT350C]

rscott said:

Bodo said:

The man has been caught sleeping in the basement of the restaurant. He did not have a weapon, nor has he threatened anyone.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/spezialeinheit-ueberwae...

So the Express might have over exaggerated their report a bit? Who'd have thought it!

So it looks like the media are a tad over sensitive; not surprising considering the recent spike in terrorist activity seen in Europe.

Thankfully, like the 'missing' Algeria airline, a false alarm.

Anyone suggesting that I would hope that people are being killed by terrorists because I voted UKIP is either a mentally deranged bigot or a very nasty troll.