Estate... but I don't need one...

Estate... but I don't need one...

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Swampy1982

Original Poster:

3,305 posts

111 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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I'm due my company car replacement soon and I can't stop thinking about getting an estate...

I'm torn between the usual suspects,

Passat
Merc 220
BMW 320
Audi A4
Mondeo 2.0

My issue is the boss (misses) is asking me why we need an estate (just me, her and a 3 yr old) and I am struggling to justify it, I just feel that I want one. I'm 34 years old so its not an age thing, and my tip runs, long haul holidays and pet requirements are limited to few to none...

So why do I want one? Have you got an estate and don't need one? Did you regret it and wish you got a saloon? How did you justify it to yourself/misses/husband?

Edit - I got a long one... got an a4 saloon originally for the company car, then got this to replace it, already it's proved it's worth with several tip runs and trips with multiple luggage



Edited by Swampy1982 on Saturday 3rd March 08:22


Edited by Swampy1982 on Saturday 3rd March 08:24

f1nn

2,693 posts

192 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Do you need to justify it? If you want an estate, get one? I don't see why you'd have to justify it to the Mrs of all people?

Swampy1982

Original Poster:

3,305 posts

111 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Its not a case of justifying it to her, she has just made me question why exactly I want one, and due to a lack of a meaningful answer to myself I wondered whether it was just me.

Maybe justifying it is the wrong phrase, but the decision lacks logic, and wondered whether anyone else has been through the same illogical decision making process.

patch5674

233 posts

112 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Estates are cooler, end of story, I am only 24 and way way prefer RS6 to RS7 which my friends find hard to fathom for example, so not an age thing just a question of (good) taste.

Whilst in the models you have mentioned all look significantly better as estates particularly the Merc and Audi.

gazza5

818 posts

105 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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I have managed to talk swmbo round from me getting a suv to a estate.

Simply my wife loves disney - so I said well when we go to disney in france and we go by car where are we going to put everything baring in mind I have a 2011 astra at the minute.

I then showed her some cars that looked better as estates - merc cls etc and shes now sold - jag sportbrake being another.

I currently have a 3 year old and also pointed out her bike is not going to get any smaller - and if we have another one the buggy and said bike will not fit in anything other than a estate.

Digitalize

2,850 posts

135 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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They aren't any longer, arguably easier to park due to more window/rear window being the back. Don't weigh much more, negligible MPG difference if any, no tax difference, insurance grey area.

I was 19 when I got my estate, and know loads of people my age (early 20s) with them, they're pretty cool.

You don't need it, but there's no downsides to one, saloons might not have folding rear seats that the estate will too.

Swampy1982

Original Poster:

3,305 posts

111 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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patch5674 said:
Estates are cooler, end of story, I am only 24 and way way prefer RS6 to RS7 which my friends find hard to fathom for example, so not an age thing just a question of (good) taste.

Whilst in the models you have mentioned all look significantly better as estates particularly the Merc and Audi.
Got to agree with this that they look better, to my eye anyway, I think it might be something to do with the saloon versions of these cars seem to be driven by idiots where I live, the estate seems a bit more "grown up"

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Anything a saloon car can do an estate can do better.

Swampy1982

Original Poster:

3,305 posts

111 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Digitalize said:
They aren't any longer, arguably easier to park due to more window/rear window being the back. Don't weigh much more, negligible MPG difference if any, no tax difference, insurance grey area.

I was 19 when I got my estate, and know loads of people my age (early 20s) with them, they're pretty cool.

You don't need it, but there's no downsides to one, saloons might not have folding rear seats that the estate will too.
Now here's a guy giving me logic to an otherwise illogical decision! The only bit you mention which is a negative is insurance, and I won't be paying that as its company!

underphil

1,245 posts

210 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Anything a saloon car can do an estate can do better.
apart from looks, price and refinement

Swampy1982

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3,305 posts

111 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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underphil said:
apart from looks, price and refinement
Looks - subjective
Price - valid
Refinements - help me understand...

Craikeybaby

10,410 posts

225 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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I also prefer estates and always have done. Maybe something to do with my Dad having Volvo estates in the '90s, and the Volvo 850 BTCC cars of course.

omgus

7,305 posts

175 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Had a classic Impreza STI Wagon.

Much cooler than any other impreza body shape, get an estate it makes sense. coolcoolcool

Swampy1982

Original Poster:

3,305 posts

111 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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gazza5 said:
I have managed to talk swmbo round from me getting a suv to a estate.

Simply my wife loves disney - so I said well when we go to disney in france and we go by car where are we going to put everything baring in mind I have a 2011 astra at the minute.

I then showed her some cars that looked better as estates - merc cls etc and shes now sold - jag sportbrake being another.

I currently have a 3 year old and also pointed out her bike is not going to get any smaller - and if we have another one the buggy and said bike will not fit in anything other than a estate.
SUV's are fortunately a big no-no because of the BIK i'd have to pay on the emissions are crazy... also, I think they are awful and wouldnt be seen dead in one!

Not sold on the CLS shooting brake, very much a marmite look, yet to see one in the flesh yet but from the net I just can't find an angle I find it a good looking car from.

Swampy1982

Original Poster:

3,305 posts

111 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Craikeybaby said:
I also prefer estates and always have done. Maybe something to do with my Dad having Volvo estates in the '90s, and the Volvo 850 BTCC cars of course.
my dad had a 740 as one of his first company cars, we toured europe in it over one summer holiday, 4 kids, 2 adults, large tent and associated luggage, did the trip flawlessley. Perhaps this is factoring into my decision making, unfortunately I don't think Volvo will be on my car list to choose from!

Rickard Rydell getting that tank of a touring car sideways round many a corner was a sight to behold, and very much a staple diet of sunday afternoons for me as a child!

underphil

1,245 posts

210 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Swampy1982 said:
underphil said:
apart from looks, price and refinement
Looks - subjective
Price - valid
Refinements - help me understand...
Cabin road noise will be higher in the estate, due to a less isolated boot

Swampy1982

Original Poster:

3,305 posts

111 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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underphil said:
Cabin road noise will be higher in the estate, due to a less isolated boot
Appreciate the clarification.

What is every ones experience with this issue - is it significantly different to the saloon versions...?

Digitalize

2,850 posts

135 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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I haven't driven both to compare, but I can't imagine it's much higher in a modern day car where NVH is taken seriously.

Magictrousers

268 posts

174 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Not driven or been in an S80 to compare, but my V70 on wide 18" wheels is fine.

I don't need a V70, it is what I wanted at the time.

JasperT

187 posts

96 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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I'm only 19 years old and considering buying a Subaru Legacy Estate (JDM 2.0 twinscroll turbo model)
Estates are cool, fast estates, even cooler!