Normandy church attack

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TheGuru

744 posts

101 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Sylvaforever said:
That's a real turn of bad luck having two killers turn up simultaneously out of the blue and all that...
Rip the priest whose throat they slit first..
Some reports say beheaded

Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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frown

Apparently "Daesh" shouted by attackers - that is odd .

PoleDriver

28,637 posts

194 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Sam All said:
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Apparently "Daesh" shouted by attackers - that is odd .
That has to be BS! ISIS regard Daesh as a derogatory term!

TTwiggy

11,537 posts

204 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Oakey said:
Someone, somewhere (on reddit no doubt), made the claim that the assailants were 'escaped convicts'. Someone posted this claim on here and as usual the likes of snorky lap that st up and perpetuate that narrative like it's somehow more valid than the speculation it might be terrorists, despite there being nothing to suggest there's any truth to this rumour.

With the Munich shooter the narrative they were trying to push was that it was white neo nazis. You could almost hear the collective sigh of disappointment as it was revealed it was a kid of middle eastern descent.
Conversely, the eager anticipation that greets each new attack, by those on here desperate to trot out the oh-so-funny 'snackbar' and 'sky fairy' tropes, is also palpable.

The Munich shooter may have been of ME descent, but I believe he was targetting immigrants in order to demonstrate that he was a 'true' German?

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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PoleDriver said:
That has to be BS! ISIS regard Daesh as a derogatory term!
That's what I thought - unless someone at a news agency has a policy of using that word instead of Islamic State and doesn't understand the significance of replacing it in a verbatim quote. Or the hostage takers were ignorant.

SilverSpur

20,911 posts

247 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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PoleDriver said:
Sam All said:
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Apparently "Daesh" shouted by attackers - that is odd .
That has to be BS! ISIS regard Daesh as a derogatory term!
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Context.

for example: if you shouted "stop referring to us as Daesh" many people might only hear or recognise "Daesh".


Too much inferring going on.

rscott

14,753 posts

191 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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SilverSpur said:
PoleDriver said:
Sam All said:
frown

Apparently "Daesh" shouted by attackers - that is odd .
That has to be BS! ISIS regard Daesh as a derogatory term!
#

Context.

for example: if you shouted "stop referring to us as Daesh" many people might only hear or recognise "Daesh".


Too much inferring going on.
Indeed. Be a change if one of these threads about a violent incident concentrated on facts and didn't immediately blame one particular group though.

PoleDriver

28,637 posts

194 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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SilverSpur said:
PoleDriver said:
Sam All said:
frown

Apparently "Daesh" shouted by attackers - that is odd .
That has to be BS! ISIS regard Daesh as a derogatory term!
#

Context.

for example: if you shouted "stop referring to us as Daesh" many people might only hear or recognise "Daesh".


Too much inferring going on.
Or a (totally stupid) right-winger is trying to apportion blame?

Four Litre

2,019 posts

192 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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TTwiggy said:
Oakey said:
Someone, somewhere (on reddit no doubt), made the claim that the assailants were 'escaped convicts'. Someone posted this claim on here and as usual the likes of snorky lap that st up and perpetuate that narrative like it's somehow more valid than the speculation it might be terrorists, despite there being nothing to suggest there's any truth to this rumour.

With the Munich shooter the narrative they were trying to push was that it was white neo nazis. You could almost hear the collective sigh of disappointment as it was revealed it was a kid of middle eastern descent.
Conversely, the eager anticipation that greets each new attack, by those on here desperate to trot out the oh-so-funny 'snackbar' and 'sky fairy' tropes, is also palpable.

The Munich shooter may have been of ME descent, but I believe he was targetting immigrants in order to demonstrate that he was a 'true' German?
Really?!?! That sounds tenuous at the very least.

I thought he fell over and the gun went off accidentally, due to a new shoe he had only just bought and he wasnt used to the fastenings. He had just found the gun in the toilet and was taking it to the police station to hand it in.

towser44

3,492 posts

115 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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This is written on the Express website.

However police sources said at least one of the two hostage-takers had a beard and one wore a traditional Muslim cap.

Soov535

35,829 posts

271 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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It's starting.

Jordan210

4,519 posts

183 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Reports on twitter that the priest was beheaded. But not sure if there a legitimate source

Turquoise

1,457 posts

97 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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snorky782 said:
anonymous said:
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Why? These are apparently escaped criminals. There's bad stuff happening all the time all over the world, the past month is no different, just the amount of media coverage it's getting.
Really? Please list examples of lets say 3 other seperate weeks that Germany has had, that mirror the one they've just experienced.

Budflicker

3,799 posts

184 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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TTwiggy said:
The Munich shooter may have been of ME descent, but I believe he was targetting immigrants in order to demonstrate that he was a 'true' German?
Where did you hear that?

Ridgemont

6,569 posts

131 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Well it's been classified by the French investigators as a terrorism event. So now we're down to whether it is extreme right or Islamist sort.

rscott

14,753 posts

191 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Budflicker said:
TTwiggy said:
The Munich shooter may have been of ME descent, but I believe he was targetting immigrants in order to demonstrate that he was a 'true' German?
Where did you hear that?
Given that most of the victims weren't German ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36874497 - Three victims were from Kosovo, three from Turkey and one from Greece.)
and that he was recorded shouting 'I am German' ( https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/23/i-am... )

It doesn't seem an unreasonable deduction.

Oakey

27,565 posts

216 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Ridgemont said:
Well it's been classified by the French investigators as a terrorism event. So now we're down to whether it is extreme right or Islamist sort.
No, that can't be it, reddit has speculated that one of the attackers may have been someone who was previously abused by the priest.

The Don of Croy

5,998 posts

159 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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People reacting to disparate 'news sources' is part and parcel of modern life - we can all have a look (if we wish) and see if we can add to the story. Preferably with facts.

When the BBC carries guff like this - "The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Paris says the French government has been under huge pressure to prevent further attacks." - it's not surprising people will welcome other places get info.

Oakey

27,565 posts

216 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Sniffer dogs sent in to the church now as they think there may be explosives.
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