Normandy church attack

[snorky782]

Finlandia said:

snorky782 said:

Turquoise said:

snorky782 said:

Turquoise said:

snorky782 said:

anonymous said:

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Why? These are apparently escaped criminals. There's bad stuff happening all the time all over the world, the past month is no different, just the amount of media coverage it's getting.

Really? Please list examples of lets say 3 other seperate weeks that Germany has had, that mirror the one they've just experienced.

The original post said "the whole world is on a knife edge" and I responded about the whole world. If you think the whole world is just Germany, then you might want to expand your horizons a little.

Don't be pedantic. This is the news thread. Germany has been in the news this week dominating "world" headlines, so if this last week is the same as any other, as you profess, it's not unreasonable to ask you to back up your claims and show us how this is a typical week for the country that been on the front pages across the world. Three examples will suffice.

I'm not being pedantic. If he'd said "Germany appears to be on a knife edge" then I might have agreed in part with what he said. Ditto France, but certainly not the whole world.

What do you call the World Wars then? The whole world certainly wasn't at war

And I'm pedantic? The whole world may not have been at war, but a huge chunk of it was in WWI, WWII was a whole different story and practically the whole world was at war, or allied to one side or another.

[Finlandia]

snorky782 said:

Finlandia said:

snorky782 said:

Turquoise said:

snorky782 said:

Turquoise said:

snorky782 said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Why? These are apparently escaped criminals. There's bad stuff happening all the time all over the world, the past month is no different, just the amount of media coverage it's getting.

Really? Please list examples of lets say 3 other seperate weeks that Germany has had, that mirror the one they've just experienced.

The original post said "the whole world is on a knife edge" and I responded about the whole world. If you think the whole world is just Germany, then you might want to expand your horizons a little.

Don't be pedantic. This is the news thread. Germany has been in the news this week dominating "world" headlines, so if this last week is the same as any other, as you profess, it's not unreasonable to ask you to back up your claims and show us how this is a typical week for the country that been on the front pages across the world. Three examples will suffice.

I'm not being pedantic. If he'd said "Germany appears to be on a knife edge" then I might have agreed in part with what he said. Ditto France, but certainly not the whole world.

What do you call the World Wars then? The whole world certainly wasn't at war

And I'm pedantic? The whole world may not have been at war, but a huge chunk of it was in WWI, WWII was a whole different story and practically the whole world was at war, or allied to one side or another.

So that would be like having terrorist attacks being reported from many different parts of the world then?

[Turquoise]

snorky782 said:

Turquoise said:

snorky782 said:

Turquoise said:

snorky782 said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Why? These are apparently escaped criminals. There's bad stuff happening all the time all over the world, the past month is no different, just the amount of media coverage it's getting.

Really? Please list examples of lets say 3 other seperate weeks that Germany has had, that mirror the one they've just experienced.

The original post said "the whole world is on a knife edge" and I responded about the whole world. If you think the whole world is just Germany, then you might want to expand your horizons a little.

Don't be pedantic. This is the news thread. Germany has been in the news this week dominating "world" headlines, so if this last week is the same as any other, as you profess, it's not unreasonable to ask you to back up your claims and show us how this is a typical week for the country that been on the front pages across the world. Three examples will suffice.

I'm not being pedantic. If he'd said "Germany appears to be on a knife edge" then I might have agreed in part with what he said. Ditto France, but certainly not the whole world.

Might have agreed in part? That's big of you!

You know damn well this has not been a normal week (for Germany, Europe or the world), you are just too stubborn to admit it.

[snorky782]

Finlandia said:

snorky782 said:

Finlandia said:

snorky782 said:

Turquoise said:

snorky782 said:

Turquoise said:

snorky782 said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Why? These are apparently escaped criminals. There's bad stuff happening all the time all over the world, the past month is no different, just the amount of media coverage it's getting.

Really? Please list examples of lets say 3 other seperate weeks that Germany has had, that mirror the one they've just experienced.

The original post said "the whole world is on a knife edge" and I responded about the whole world. If you think the whole world is just Germany, then you might want to expand your horizons a little.

Don't be pedantic. This is the news thread. Germany has been in the news this week dominating "world" headlines, so if this last week is the same as any other, as you profess, it's not unreasonable to ask you to back up your claims and show us how this is a typical week for the country that been on the front pages across the world. Three examples will suffice.

I'm not being pedantic. If he'd said "Germany appears to be on a knife edge" then I might have agreed in part with what he said. Ditto France, but certainly not the whole world.

What do you call the World Wars then? The whole world certainly wasn't at war

And I'm pedantic? The whole world may not have been at war, but a huge chunk of it was in WWI, WWII was a whole different story and practically the whole world was at war, or allied to one side or another.

So that would be like having terrorist attacks being reported from many different parts of the world then?

It would be nothing like it. However, feel free to fill me in on the other terrorist attacks this week around the world

[steveT350C]

Hollande: "There is a group amongst us who have declared war on us and seek to divide us"

[marshalla]

Final warning - keep it on topic and stop the playground name calling or the thread will be closed and the ban hammer will be used.

This thread is generating too many reports to the mods.

[snorky782]

Oakey said:

I've never suggested 'nuking the lot of them', you're lumping me in with others on here (the irony) because I don't adhere to your viewpoint. You claim the moral high ground in these threads, banging on about waiting for confirmation but are happy to jump on alternative theories based on nothing more than rumour and think by stating 'apparently' beforehand that makes it okay. I don't see you saying "apparently they beheaded the priest" or "apparently they yelled "ISIS" or anything like that.

And there are apparently 60million people in support of ISIS with another 230million undecided as to whether they support them or not. Hardly "c100,000 nutters".

Nor am I a "lefty ahole", but that doesn't stop you naming me specifically and chucking that about. There is a sensible point in all of this, but sadly that seems beyonfpd many on here. You may not be as extreme as others, but you are on every thread whipping up the mob. I'm equally there, trying to be a bit more sensible, but being shouted down, by many.

Those if poured are completely random. The CIA puts the figure nearer 100,000 globally.

Just so you can really get confused. I recently moved out of a town that IMO has become overrun with certain communities. I despise their desire to build ghettos, to insist on leasing top spec cars and then driving round with music blasting out at 100 mph in 30 limits, their obsession with "shagging white women" and the like. However, these are a lower class of scum and are the equal of many council estates overrun by lazy, benefit scrounging scumbags who have generations separated by 15 years and expect the world to owe them a living.

I have no time for scum, but I have no time for people who believe a huge minority are reflective of all of the people with that persuasion.

[Finlandia]

snorky782 said:

Finlandia said:

snorky782 said:

Finlandia said:

snorky782 said:

Turquoise said:

snorky782 said:

Turquoise said:

snorky782 said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Why? These are apparently escaped criminals. There's bad stuff happening all the time all over the world, the past month is no different, just the amount of media coverage it's getting.

Really? Please list examples of lets say 3 other seperate weeks that Germany has had, that mirror the one they've just experienced.

The original post said "the whole world is on a knife edge" and I responded about the whole world. If you think the whole world is just Germany, then you might want to expand your horizons a little.

Don't be pedantic. This is the news thread. Germany has been in the news this week dominating "world" headlines, so if this last week is the same as any other, as you profess, it's not unreasonable to ask you to back up your claims and show us how this is a typical week for the country that been on the front pages across the world. Three examples will suffice.

I'm not being pedantic. If he'd said "Germany appears to be on a knife edge" then I might have agreed in part with what he said. Ditto France, but certainly not the whole world.

What do you call the World Wars then? The whole world certainly wasn't at war

And I'm pedantic? The whole world may not have been at war, but a huge chunk of it was in WWI, WWII was a whole different story and practically the whole world was at war, or allied to one side or another.

So that would be like having terrorist attacks being reported from many different parts of the world then?

It would be nothing like it. However, feel free to fill me in on the other terrorist attacks this week around the world

I'm sure you can use a computer and read the news, for now we are pretty much averaging one attack a day. While terrorism does not reach the same death tolls as WW1 or WW2, it certainly happens all around the world in a much larger geographical area than any of the wars.

[br d]

snorky782 said:

I have no time for scum, but I have no time for people who believe a huge minority are reflective of all of the people with that persuasion.

I don't think that's the issue. The issue is that you jump all over everyone of these reports trying to steer the likely hood away from "the scum". This get's on peoples nerves because you seem to be the only person who hasn't noticed that lately it overwhelmingly is.

[Oakey]

snorky782 said:

Nor am I a "lefty ahole", but that doesn't stop you naming me specifically and chucking that about. There is a sensible point in all of this, but sadly that seems beyonfpd many on here. You may not be as extreme as others, but you are on every thread whipping up the mob. I'm equally there, trying to be a bit more sensible, but being shouted down, by many.

Those if poured are completely random. The CIA puts the figure nearer 100,000 globally.

Just so you can really get confused. I recently moved out of a town that IMO has become overrun with certain communities. I despise their desire to build ghettos, to insist on leasing top spec cars and then driving round with music blasting out at 100 mph in 30 limits, their obsession with "shagging white women" and the like. However, these are a lower class of scum and are the equal of many council estates overrun by lazy, benefit scrounging scumbags who have generations separated by 15 years and expect the world to owe them a living.

I have no time for scum, but I have no time for people who believe a huge minority are reflective of all of the people with that persuasion.

Where did I personally call you a 'lefty ahole'? I said lefty aholes create these rumours in order to push an alternative narrative and people like you lap it up. The main thread for this story on Reddit is still speculating on the top post that they're escaped convicts in addition to another theory that "one of the attackers may have been sexually abused by the priest". Seriously, who comes up with this st and why?

Do you really think it makes you more sensible because you're happy to go with a different theory as opposed to speculation based on the balance of probabilities?

[Cobnapint]

br d said:

snorky782 said:

I have no time for scum, but I have no time for people who believe a huge minority are reflective of all of the people with that persuasion.

I don't think that's the issue. The issue is that you jump all over everyone of these reports trying to steer the likely hood away from "the scum". This get's on peoples nerves because you seem to be the only person who hasn't noticed that lately it overwhelmingly is.

+1 Spot on.

[rscott]

br d said:

snorky782 said:

I have no time for scum, but I have no time for people who believe a huge minority are reflective of all of the people with that persuasion.

I don't think that's the issue. The issue is that you jump all over everyone of these reports trying to steer the likely hood away from "the scum". This get's on peoples nerves because you seem to be the only person who hasn't noticed that lately it overwhelmingly is.

He's not the only person to notice that some on here assume that a certain religion are behind every attack. Take the German shooting - no evidence at all, but by page 1 there were already multiple posts blaming them. Why can't people wait until evidence before blaming?

[snorky782]

br d said:

snorky782 said:

I have no time for scum, but I have no time for people who believe a huge minority are reflective of all of the people with that persuasion.

I don't think that's the issue. The issue is that you jump all over everyone of these reports trying to steer the likely hood away from "the scum". This get's on peoples nerves because you seem to be the only person who hasn't noticed that lately it overwhelmingly is.

No, what's happening is that the moment anything nasty is reported then a chunk of people come out and immediately jump on the Muslim bandwagon. I have no time for the terrorists at all, what they have done today and previously is abhorrent. However, I have no time for those who actively incite religious hatred due to a small minority of nutters.

I'm leaving this thread now, so that we can get back to "nuke the lot of 'em" and other illegal comments.

Edited by snorky782 on Tuesday 26th July 13:03

[Sam All]

IS reference now made by Hollande.

[Oakey]

rscott said:

He's not the only person to notice that some on here assume that a certain religion are behind every attack. Take the German shooting - no evidence at all, but by page 1 there were already multiple posts blaming them. Why can't people wait until evidence before blaming?

Earlier in this thread you said "it doesn't seem an unreasonable deduction" when suggesting the Munich shooter was targeting immigrants.

Do you think it's unreasonable for people to deduce these attacks may possibly be Islamic radicals based on events over the last 12 months?

[Cobnapint]

snorky782 said:

I'm leaving this thread now, so that we can get back to "nuke the lot of 'em" and other illegal comments.

[Oakey]

Nutters cut throat / behead priest yet the people critical are the ones inciting religious hatred

[rscott]

Oakey said:

rscott said:

He's not the only person to notice that some on here assume that a certain religion are behind every attack. Take the German shooting - no evidence at all, but by page 1 there were already multiple posts blaming them. Why can't people wait until evidence before blaming?

Earlier in this thread you said "it doesn't seem an unreasonable deduction" when suggesting the Munich shooter was targeting immigrants.

Do you think it's unreasonable for people to deduce these attacks may possibly be Islamic radicals based on events over the last 12 months?

My comment about the Munich shooter was based on the fact that 70% of those he killed were immigrants - a deduction based on facts about the specific case.

As for whether an attack should be attributed to a specific group before the appearance of anything vaguely resembling evidence linking them to that incident ? I don't think it should.

[del mar]

Surely someone on here can spend their lunch hour trawling through the internet to find the last RANDOM Terror attack on European soil that was not carried out in the name of Islam.

Random as in a small group fighting for independence attacking the country it is seeking independence from is not Random - does that make sense ?

I am off to buy some leather !

[BigLion]

Sounds like yet another Islamic linked attack, which is a fair assumption to make gI've the constant streams of these recently.

I think Europe should deport all of those who they suspect have any kind of links with ISIS or other Islamic extremist groups where a legal advisor rules the case is beyond reasonable doubt.

When the head of the Glasgow mosque can publically praise a terrorist without any come back we know we've gone too liberal.

How long before these vermin terrorists start to attack schools etc. - as that is their MO.

Lets start deporting those who a legal view confirms is a threat to our country and europe as a whole asap!