Byron Burgers immigration raid.

Byron Burgers immigration raid.

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55palfers

5,914 posts

165 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Don said:
What a right bunch of s.

Company in "abides by the law" shocker. s up in arms.

Amazing.

I hope they find the sabotaging tts and make them very, very sorry. Sadly it won't happen.
Quite.

I wonder if there will be similar protests when companies grass-up their drivers for speeding, parking, etc.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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iphonedyou said:
There's always a copy of Socialist Worker tucked under an arm in those photos.

Nourishment for the minds of the terminally stupid.
Quite, and they don't quite realise that these migrant workers living four to a room are depressing wages levels for them and all their comrades. It should be all the capitalist bosses out protesting at seeing their cheap labour deported.

battered

4,088 posts

148 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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iphonedyou said:
There's always a copy of Socialist Worker tucked under an arm in those photos.

Nourishment for the minds of the terminally stupid.
That must be the terminally stupid who don't take the Daily Mail then.

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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The Mad Monk said:
vkcs22 said:
On a relatively similar note, I once got offered a position with a bank. Got through a telephone interview, went for assessment day and 2nd interview. Got a verbal offer of employment. But when they found out I needed a work permit, guess what? I was told to p1ss off. So not only do I have to prove that I can do the job but also that I need to obtain the right visa documentation. Fair enough! But here's the tricky part, Home Office says you need your employer to sponsor you and arrange for your work permit! And your employer says you need to "already" have all your right to leave and remain stuff. Wonderful system, where someone has proved that they can do the job but still not allowed to do so.
What are doing applying for jobs here if you aren't entitled to work here?

Which bit of that is too tricky for you?
I don't follow - what about your status means you can't apply for a job here?

On what basis are you here then?

Genuinely interested.

audidoody

8,597 posts

257 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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vkcs22 - what country are you from? Australia? New Zealand? Canada? the USA?. Because I can guarantee if I turned up to any of those countries without the correct documentation and applied for jobs there I would probably be arrested and taken to the airport for the next flight out so fast my head would swim.

vkcs22

196 posts

135 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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///ajd said:
I don't follow - what about your status means you can't apply for a job here?

On what basis are you here then?

Genuinely interested.
I was on a student visa at the time and it was following graduation.

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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vkcs22 said:
///ajd said:
I don't follow - what about your status means you can't apply for a job here?

On what basis are you here then?

Genuinely interested.
I was on a student visa at the time and it was following graduation.
Again, genuinely interested:

- are you still in UK?
- I guess you are non-EU - which country?
- how did the milkround work for you? Is there a way to employ grads on this from non-EU or is the £35k barrier too high typically? Or is this only after a certain period?

I ask as Dyson always complained that he couldn't take non-EU grads, but wondered if there was a way to stay within rules on certain schemes.



vkcs22

196 posts

135 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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///ajd said:
Again, genuinely interested:

- are you still in UK?
- I guess you are non-EU - which country?
- how did the milkround work for you? Is there a way to employ grads on this from non-EU or is the £35k barrier too high typically? Or is this only after a certain period?

I ask as Dyson always complained that he couldn't take non-EU grads, but wondered if there was a way to stay within rules on certain schemes.
Yes, non EU.

Missed the milkround... but luckily there were other companies with no deadline for application.

I eventually got an offer from a consultancy firm and they applied for my work permit on a grad scheme. At the time, grad scheme started at £25k! Not sure how it works nowadays.

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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vkcs22 said:
///ajd said:
Again, genuinely interested:

- are you still in UK?
- I guess you are non-EU - which country?
- how did the milkround work for you? Is there a way to employ grads on this from non-EU or is the £35k barrier too high typically? Or is this only after a certain period?

I ask as Dyson always complained that he couldn't take non-EU grads, but wondered if there was a way to stay within rules on certain schemes.
Yes, non EU.

Missed the milkround... but luckily there were other companies with no deadline for application.

I eventually got an offer from a consultancy firm and they applied for my work permit on a grad scheme. At the time, grad scheme started at £25k! Not sure how it works nowadays.
And what made you want to vote brexit?



Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Don said:
What a right bunch of s.

Company in "abides by the law" shocker. s up in arms.

Amazing.

I hope they find the sabotaging tts and make them very, very sorry. Sadly it won't happen.
The law doesn't apply to special snowflakes they should be allowed to do as they please they are sjw and therefore correct the law only applies to people who they don't agree with.

iphonedyou

9,255 posts

158 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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battered said:
That must be the terminally stupid who don't take the Daily Mail then.
The Daily Mail does a good line in non-sequiturs like that!

otolith

56,207 posts

205 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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FredClogs said:
If a fella called Ryan Jones (for the want of a more Anglo saxon sounding name) with pale freckled skin, a working class east end accent, tattoos, a vague whiff of oven chips and poor educational achievements came for interview I think a cursory glance at his passport, recording of his NI number and the take up of a reference might indeed by reasonable.

As I said before though, when presented with a candidate who looks and acts like they may not have long since climbed out of a curtain sider or run the tunnel of chance at calais I think its reasonable not only to give their paperwork more than a cursory glance but perhaps it might be reasonable to employ an outside agency to aid or educate oneself in the verification of the documentation. I mean would you not say that was a reasonable course of action considering the fines that can be levied for not acting reasonably?
Can't help but feel that if they'd been caught racially profiling job applicants to sniff out illegal immigrants as you suggest, you and the Twitterati would have been condemning them for that too.

iphonedyou

9,255 posts

158 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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otolith said:
Can't help but feel that if they'd been caught racially profiling job applicants to sniff out illegal immigrants as you suggest, you and the Twitterati would have been condemning them for that too.
rofl

Indeed. And, as I mentioned previously to Matt, there's no need to employ a third party agency to ensure you're acting reasonably to avoid the fine that results from not acting reasonably because the government has kindly defined what they believe to be acting reasonably then granted exemption from civil action should the person subsequently be found to be illegally in the country.

That sentence reads like, well, st, because it's attempting to simplify further a point so simple that it really can't be broken down any further.

battered

4,088 posts

148 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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battered said:
iphonedyou said:
There's always a copy of Socialist Worker tucked under an arm in those photos.

Nourishment for the minds of the terminally stupid.
That must be the terminally stupid who don't take the Daily Mail then.
[quote]The Daily Mail does a good line in non-sequiturs like that!
Where's the non-sequitur? It's a reply following directly from the original statement!

iphonedyou

9,255 posts

158 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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battered said:
Where's the non-sequitur? It's a reply following directly from the original statement!
The reply follows, of course. The logic doesn't!

smile

dudleybloke

19,854 posts

187 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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What would happen to English people who got a job due to false details?????

s2art

18,937 posts

254 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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///ajd said:
And what made you want to vote brexit?
A better question is how did he manage to get a vote if he is non-EU/non-UK?

battered

4,088 posts

148 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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iphonedyou said:
battered said:
Where's the non-sequitur? It's a reply following directly from the original statement!
The reply follows, of course. The logic doesn't!

smile
In which case it is not a non sequitur, regardlss of what you think to what's implied.



iphonedyou

9,255 posts

158 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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battered said:
In which case it is not a non sequitur, regardlss of what you think to what's implied.
Do please elaborate. I'm all ears.

srappy

133 posts

168 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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s2art said:
A better question is how did he manage to get a vote if he is non-EU/non-UK?
From a commonwealth country most likely.